That's a load of you-know-what. Every religion has some basis of evidence, although others might not acknowledge it as evidence, it's still evidence to the party using it. Whereas you do not seem to have any evidence at all.
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Waterbending is real. This is no joke.
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That's a load of you-know-what. Every religion has some basis of evidence, although others might not acknowledge it as evidence, it's still evidence to the party using it. Whereas you do not seem to have any evidence at all.
AVGanondorf
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Wait a minute... why could Xi Main just lifted the water 3 centimeters high with ONLY static electricity? Is that unbelievable?
AVGanondorf
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...meaning that she could have lifted it with only static electricity. And what does this have to do with what you said? Well, you said that there's no evidence in what I said. Well, how about with only static electricity? That may be the reason she lifted the water. So, isn't that evidence? And if you are looking for proof that she really existed, that's a whole different story. Many people having the same lie doesn't sound like truth.
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You didn't state it as static electricity at first. Read a couple of your posts talking about using Tai Chi and your energy to do it.
Vex L'Cour
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AVGanondorf
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I stated Tai Chi because some person didn't believe in energy... this has nothing to do with the concept!!! Look at my third post in the thread. I say that "It's basically Static Electricity".
AVGanondorf
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There is no proof. Not that I know of... go look for some. I didn't even look for proof that she did it.
Vex L'Cour
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And it's taken this long for you to admit that?
By "much later" I meant after you had already said plenty of nonsense about things other than static electricity. Answers.com didn't give the answer, someone posting on Answers.com did, that's how sites like that function. Someone (possibly the same person) copied and pasted the same answer to the questions about Waterbending. Just like you copied and pasted the answer into your post. That does nothing to prove the veracity of the claims within the post, at all. And again, I used the fact that it has no date as another piece of evidence that the story may be made up. Of course that doesn't prove it's made up, but as I said those who are making up stories have good reasons for making their stories nonspecific. Even if there was a date, however, that would do nothing to prove it was true, either.
No, you said that after the fact. This isn't worth debating, you had already regurgitated the bull**** from Answers.com as fact, which contains no mention of static electricity. The two are not connected. You're saying the Answers.com quote was talking about using static electricity, but it never says that.
Of course the absence of evidence isn't the absence of truth, but it is a pretty good reason for not putting your belief in something.
If you "know" it is real, then what evidence do you have for that? A feeling? That's not a very good way to go about discovering truths about the world.
Again, I'm not even saying that. I'm saying it is a strong indicator that the story is made-up. No matter how many contortions you put my words through, you still haven't given any evidence of the story's veracity. I clearly don't believe the story, but what I'm doing is giving you reasons why you shouldn't.
Another thing:
The story says she died 10 years ago. China is a communist country with a very powerful and organized central government. Yet, no one can find out where this woman lived, or if she existed? There would surely be records.
AVGanondorf
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Admit what? That there's no proof? Yeah, I knew that. But not admitting that she didn't DO IT. Maybe she did, but there's no proof of it. Doesn't mean it's not true. Example...
If I said that I live underground, would you believe me? No, but that doesn't mean it's not true, I can live underground, it's that there's no proof of me living there... but... it's true. I'm underground right now.
Similar story here.
People like to make up stories? People want to mislead people? Who knows why people do things, but the internet abounds with lies with no explanations.
Alright. I'd just like to point out then that you've backpedaled from "stating facts" to basically saying, "You can't prove conclusively that it's untrue, so I'm going to believe it just to spite you."
AVGanondorf
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Facts about Static Electricity, not about Xi Main.
At this point, you were talking about static electricity? Then why all the stuff about God? Either you were talking specifically about Xi Main's "waterbending" or you were talking about the whole thing in general.
Oh Trevor, you do make me laugh.
Wow, just wow. I wrote this huge thing, don't even know how much of it is coherent now... yeah enjoy 
1. Religions don't really have more proof than hearsay nowadays, unless you yourself had a personal experience, so yes believing in this I think is on par with belief in religion. The main difference is religion even if I believe it to be filled with lies still does have some decent stories to support certain things morally. Story of the good Samaritan is still one that I like as it teaches to be kind to others and not to judge based on outward appearances or affiliations. The belief in a God or whatever dependent on the religion is really just there as a means of control. Not everyone can necessarily be as rational about morality, so having a final judgment from a supernatural being is a good way to scare people into following said morality. Whereas believing someone could lift water 3 centimeters? I don't see anything of real worth here. Is there a point to this? Any real meaning you can make out of it?
2. People do lie about things for petty things. Santa Claus. Why make up a myth about this man? Cause one month out of the year it gives you an effective tool to control your children? Cause children will believe it and it is funny? Because corporations want to sell tons of junk with his image brandished on it and because he isn't real they don't have to pay for the rights to use his image? There are billions of reasons to lie about things, sometimes they are good, sometimes they are not, but either way it takes some sifting to find the kernel of truth in most stories, and even things you actually see on a daily basis.
3. Again with the static electricity. If she could cause static build up in her hand to move the water with only thoughts that is just about as unbelievable as moving the water. Charging static electricity is not something are neurons are built to do, nor are movements within our body as most parts are built not to have friction within, which is what could cause a buildup. And if it is something in her biology that lets her do that there still would be science behind it, not just thought. Electric eels can generate electricity, but it isn't like they just think it and it comes into being, no they need their body systems working properly for it to work. So is it impossible? Of course not, but then again in my belief system everything is possible and likely happening somewhere in some plane of existence, at some time, but it is very improbable.
Sigh, I am sorry if I offend anyone with this. I understand part of it seems to be mocking belief in general. If you truly believe in something good for you, just know that not everyone will be able to see things your way and you will have to just deal with it. I, myself, believe in ridiculous things myself that I doubt many of you could even comprehend. What ultimately matters in matters of faith and belief is the effect it has on you. For some it is the spark that ignited their altruism, for other it just ignited fanatical rage and obsession. Belief can be good or bad depending on the person. What you need to maintain is openness. Without openness you will condemn those who believe contrary to you, and in the worst cases feel it is your duty to enact the damnation. But with openness, you will be much more likely to strive to better others. This does not mean you can't stand up for your beliefs, or even argue against others, but it does mean you should look at the results of that belief and value it based more on that. Regardless of whether you really believe in karma or not you can see it has worth because it encourages people to act good to others, and in fact that alone makes it ten times more likely to come back ten fold. But believing some woman in China, who is dead, lifted water 3 centimeters? Does it even matter? I couldn't bring myself to care if she could walk on water, and people taped it, to me it would be nothing more than a fun tidbit of info unless there was something bigger attached.
That being said fantasy is the very first step in making something real, it just often does not take the form originally imagined in. Conjuring fire like an evil wizard is something grenades and flamethrowers do quite well. We might not yet fly like birds but we have invented ways to fly.
1. Religions don't really have more proof than hearsay nowadays, unless you yourself had a personal experience, so yes believing in this I think is on par with belief in religion. The main difference is religion even if I believe it to be filled with lies still does have some decent stories to support certain things morally. Story of the good Samaritan is still one that I like as it teaches to be kind to others and not to judge based on outward appearances or affiliations. The belief in a God or whatever dependent on the religion is really just there as a means of control. Not everyone can necessarily be as rational about morality, so having a final judgment from a supernatural being is a good way to scare people into following said morality. Whereas believing someone could lift water 3 centimeters? I don't see anything of real worth here. Is there a point to this? Any real meaning you can make out of it?
2. People do lie about things for petty things. Santa Claus. Why make up a myth about this man? Cause one month out of the year it gives you an effective tool to control your children? Cause children will believe it and it is funny? Because corporations want to sell tons of junk with his image brandished on it and because he isn't real they don't have to pay for the rights to use his image? There are billions of reasons to lie about things, sometimes they are good, sometimes they are not, but either way it takes some sifting to find the kernel of truth in most stories, and even things you actually see on a daily basis.
3. Again with the static electricity. If she could cause static build up in her hand to move the water with only thoughts that is just about as unbelievable as moving the water. Charging static electricity is not something are neurons are built to do, nor are movements within our body as most parts are built not to have friction within, which is what could cause a buildup. And if it is something in her biology that lets her do that there still would be science behind it, not just thought. Electric eels can generate electricity, but it isn't like they just think it and it comes into being, no they need their body systems working properly for it to work. So is it impossible? Of course not, but then again in my belief system everything is possible and likely happening somewhere in some plane of existence, at some time, but it is very improbable.
Sigh, I am sorry if I offend anyone with this. I understand part of it seems to be mocking belief in general. If you truly believe in something good for you, just know that not everyone will be able to see things your way and you will have to just deal with it. I, myself, believe in ridiculous things myself that I doubt many of you could even comprehend. What ultimately matters in matters of faith and belief is the effect it has on you. For some it is the spark that ignited their altruism, for other it just ignited fanatical rage and obsession. Belief can be good or bad depending on the person. What you need to maintain is openness. Without openness you will condemn those who believe contrary to you, and in the worst cases feel it is your duty to enact the damnation. But with openness, you will be much more likely to strive to better others. This does not mean you can't stand up for your beliefs, or even argue against others, but it does mean you should look at the results of that belief and value it based more on that. Regardless of whether you really believe in karma or not you can see it has worth because it encourages people to act good to others, and in fact that alone makes it ten times more likely to come back ten fold. But believing some woman in China, who is dead, lifted water 3 centimeters? Does it even matter? I couldn't bring myself to care if she could walk on water, and people taped it, to me it would be nothing more than a fun tidbit of info unless there was something bigger attached.
That being said fantasy is the very first step in making something real, it just often does not take the form originally imagined in. Conjuring fire like an evil wizard is something grenades and flamethrowers do quite well. We might not yet fly like birds but we have invented ways to fly.
Millysaurusrexjr
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this entire thread is just. lol
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