So just because we aren't in the U.S doesn't mean it didn't strike us at what happen 5 years ago on this day. I was pretty shock at what happen.Minoranza said:I don't hate CanadiansSMRPG1 said:
I am just saying I would rather not discuss it for someone that isn't in the Country
WOOT AT FIRST 9/11 THREAD
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Triforce3force
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Ah yes, 9/11. I doubt it will be forgotton anytime in the future. It's Pearl Harbor, but in New York. You see, the country had probably heard about some terrorism, and assumed the traditional. "Oh, that can't happen to us." How wrong they were. Airport Security was to blame. Nowdays, you couldn't even THINK of putting something even remotely bomb-like into a plane. The ignorance has made the country pay with many lives that died because of terrorism, from invading Iraq, to in the WTC directly.
Ok...maybe a movie after only 5 years was a bit much...but we shouldn't forget.
The one good thing about this is it brought the country back to earth. We tightened security in our airports, just like Europe already had. We were more on alert, to a fault sometimes. (I mean, come on. A red terrorist alert on Christmas Day?)
9/11 sparked the whole war in Iraq (which, heavens no, I'm not going to go into), and showed America just how vulnerable it was. The mistakes have been fixed, and I don't think terrorists will be taken lightly anymore. (Not that they have been for the last 5 years.)
Well. That's my point of view. Agree or disagree. That is my thought on the issue
Ok...maybe a movie after only 5 years was a bit much...but we shouldn't forget.
The one good thing about this is it brought the country back to earth. We tightened security in our airports, just like Europe already had. We were more on alert, to a fault sometimes. (I mean, come on. A red terrorist alert on Christmas Day?)
9/11 sparked the whole war in Iraq (which, heavens no, I'm not going to go into), and showed America just how vulnerable it was. The mistakes have been fixed, and I don't think terrorists will be taken lightly anymore. (Not that they have been for the last 5 years.)
Well. That's my point of view. Agree or disagree. That is my thought on the issue
Propaganda Man
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Whether you care or not is not the point. I don't feel like going deeper into it but just understand I don't hate Canadians.OddCrazyMe said:
@Triforce: First off, great post.
Wouldn't moving on be part of reality though?
Triforce3force
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Yes, that was the point that I forgot to touch on. We should move on. No, we should never forget September 11, 2001, but we cannot dwell on it forever.Minoranza said:
I think the country might slowly be moving on, but that's just compared to before, when Bush said 9/11 as why we started the war in Iraq. (I guess). Like Pearl Harbor. People were just as shocked. I guess I can liken that to this. No, people did not forget, we went into WWII, and now there is a rather nice memorial to the people who died there.
People in eastern Canada have more to do with 9/11 than people from California and other western US states. Not that it matters.Minoranza said:I don't hate CanadiansSMRPG1 said:
I am just saying I would rather not discuss it for someone that isn't in the Country
Triforce3force
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Yes. 9/11 impacted the rest of the world also, not just New York, or the US. I mean, you also hear about English things on the news, if they're attempted bombings, or actual bombings.STORMTROOPER88888 said:People in eastern Canada have more to do with 9/11 than people from California and other western US states. Not that it matters.Minoranza said:I don't hate CanadiansSMRPG1 said:
I am just saying I would rather not discuss it for someone that isn't in the Country
(Otherwise, the US is pretty much not interested in regular other country news. Watch the news for 30 minutes, and count the international stories on TV. You don't see much, do you?)
Thank you Storm for pointing that out.STORMTROOPER88888 said:People in eastern Canada have more to do with 9/11 than people from California and other western US states. Not that it matters.Minoranza said:I don't hate CanadiansSMRPG1 said:
I am just saying I would rather not discuss it for someone that isn't in the Country
In modern warfare, everything- civilian or military- is fair game. Look at what happened during the Blitz, or later, what the Allies did to Dresden during the Second World War. And what's more, I can't think of any tactics more modern than the asymmetric warfare used by the groups who attacked, and continue to wage war against the US and it's allies.
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storm writes: oops, i accidently clicked edit instead of quote
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PS- that deleted some stuff you posted :0
PSS- refer to minoranza's quote for what was actually posted
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Propaganda Man
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Yes there were uprisings but none that actualy worked.KatzMotel said:
Tennis=Life
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You know, I felt sorry for the people who lost family on that day. "ON THAT DAY" it's gone too far. Americans are so selfish they think their people dieing are more elite than other people dieing. Because of America many people are dieing. Starting a gimongous war in Iraq is wrong and now Bush says he's gotta fix it. Does anyone feel sorry for what happened to anyone who's died, just random people, nope. So why should 9/11 be special?
Bam: You're 100% right. There's no one today who feels sorry for Jews when they lost millions on the Holocaust. How many people died that day 100? 100 people, how many are in the US 500 mil? So...with families added in that's not too much.
Bam: You're 100% right. There's no one today who feels sorry for Jews when they lost millions on the Holocaust. How many people died that day 100? 100 people, how many are in the US 500 mil? So...with families added in that's not too much.
Tennis=Life
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@Zero: correct, this isn't nearly as devastating as Huricanes, which were forgotten, Tsunami which was forgotten after about a month. Everyone is just showing how selfish they are for only caring about a very small group of Americans.
Not really, it was considered a terrorist attack, not a battleKatzMotel said:
And I don't really call directing an object towards another object so it collides with it a modern tactic. >_< I mean, you may think it's modern because it really hasn't been done like that before, but it's pretty basic if you ask me.
btw... i completely messed up that post you made
the quote and edit buttons are right near each other >_<
A small group of Americans? There weren't that many American deaths in a single event since the Civil War... You are clearly the selfish one for not respecting other people's feelings. A hurricane has no where near the amount of deaths.Super_Naruto said:
See here, this day is remembered so that future generations will know about their past, their history, and it will also show future generations the terrorists' true face, so that they'll have an idea of what they are, who they are, and how they can combat them.
However, I can agree with one thing; Americans think they are "elite". Do we still see yearly mourning for the tsunami, in which WAY WAY WAY more people died than on 9/11? Yes, we do, but it's not public... It's only a private affair.
However, I can agree with one thing; Americans think they are "elite". Do we still see yearly mourning for the tsunami, in which WAY WAY WAY more people died than on 9/11? Yes, we do, but it's not public... It's only a private affair.
Propaganda Man
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The hurricane helped destroy a city...We are talking about looting, guns, unresting chaos.STORMTROOPER88888 said:
Tennis=Life
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Okay, the hurricanes/tsunami had waaaaaay more deaths, 9/11 had waaaaaay less.STORMTROOPER88888 said:
9/11 gets way more attention. Seems logic huh? uhh...not really.
Don't worry about messing up my original post- so long as Minoranza's quote of it remains, it should be fine.STORMTROOPER88888 said:
But modern tactics don't have to be complex in the way that they're executed. If anything, some of the most complex military manoeuvres were executed by the armies of antiquity- the Macedonian phalanx being such an example.
Modern assymetric warfare tactics revolve around as causing as much damage as possible against a better equipped foe, utilising the element of surprise as much as possible. In effect, the aim is to avoid fighting battles, because there is, of course, no way that the groups involved in the attacks could ever confront the US armed forces in a pitched battle. Instead, they have to rely on terrorist attacks, ambushes and bombings to slowly wear down their better-equipped enemy. I must admit that it is unusual for a group who use such tactics to actually incite a war, but I must also say that at this point in time, the various guerilla groups fighting the coalition have been doing exceptionally well, and have failed to be completely dislodged from any location.
