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@Alexi it is NOT WEIRD i get aggressive from time to time in these games, its totally my town meta, just ask Ness.
Ness is not here to back you up Panda <3

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okay I promise to have reads up in an hour[/QUOTE]

@Heyden i don't need Ness, ask anyone who's ever played with me before.
 
d2 reads

sort of rushed but w/e, dont really have time to proof read either

Mother of all llamas- Randomly voted Ares with bad reasons, I don?t even know what to think of her anymore.

Aronthaer
- Replacement needed so I can?t really get an opinion on them yet.

Tina- Has popped in a few times to say she?s busy or whatever, can?t wait to see more posts from her.

Panda- Wasn?t available for most of day start for understandable reasons. She?s been active and consistent with her posts as usual, and I can see her trying to help us push forward from time to time. Honestly I would justify her as a town read, but after the last game, I?ve really changed my thoughts about her since her town play and scum play is pretty hard to tell apart, for me at least. But in all, I?m hoping town at least.

Xine- Hasn?t posted as much as usual and was sort of suspicious of her disappearing for a while, but I guess most of her posts are reflective of previous games and have a decent amount of insights on different people, usual pro-town to me.

Tom- His claim seems 99% legit, there?s basically no flaws in the claim unless he?s planned it out pretty well, the law matches up and looking back it all makes sense. I don?t think we should worry about him at the moment, but there?s a chance he?s going to turnover and help scum instead since he?s Survivor as well so I?d be wary.

Cadbberry
- No, I am not targeting them because they are new or an easy target, but it is because I feel like their behaviour has been really scummy. She voted about 6 times during day 1, voting for whoever other people wanted to vote for, and basically sheeping with everyone?s opinions to blend in with the rest of town. Plus, the fact she was not concerned about losing a potential power role and voted them. I?m not too confident in lynching her, but she is definitely one to keep an eye on.

Xerolin- Just a whole lot of spam and repeating things people have said already. Admitted to hopping on the Ares bandwagon, I don?t think scum would admit to it, which is why I?m leaning town on her.

Nightmares- Seems to be lurking on invisible mode, always pops in whenever someone mentions her name or something. I can?t really tell if she?s trying to hide or is too afraid to say something. Not really sure at the moment so I?ll say only a little suspicious

Ares- Power role hint, going to pass them off as town for now.

Alexi- At first I was super wary of her based on her actions on day 1 but now reading back I?m pretty confident with reading her off as town.

Cory- Posted a lot before, can?t really get a good read on him but I?d like to leave him as slightly suspicious for now.

Dolby- Joked for the most of day 1 and then disappeared. Has been quiet for a while, which is within his scum meta so I?m pretty suspicious of him at the moment but not enough to make out anything. I hope he speaks up soon with reads or something.

Ashtot- No explanation needed

Taesaek- I like his posts so far, has good points and contributes their own opinions. I?m townreading them at the moment, as their behaviour is pretty reflective of the past and I can kind of tell it when he?s town or not based on his tone and the way he speaks.

Inkling- Okay, I?ve noticed they were very silent on day 1, and they sort of restrained themselves from speaking at all I guess. Day 2, as usual, emotions and aggressiveness. To me, it?s pretty hard to get a good read on them, as their scum and town meta includes both those traits. Haven?t had a good chance to look through their posts carefully, but I?ll try and do it sometime soon. I?m not sure what to think of her to be honest, but I?d like to watch them carefully.

Jacob- I often bias my reads on Jacob based on meta as I can tell a lot of the time off his behaviour. Right now he hasn?t been as helpful but I can most definitely see he?s trying I think. Mostly defending himself and asking others for opinions although.

Tardis- Least of my worries, most likely town I guess. If he is scum, I?ll be waiting for his slip sometime soon. What weirded me out is when she suggested Cry was a townie, but that?s really it. His determination to lynch 3rd party and not mafia was pretty sketchy as well I must say.
 
PandaDarling
Crys asked if she were scum again before she was under suspicion. I'm not sure how to take this right now. Was this left intentionally or is it just a joke. I think I'm leaning toward the latter.

Usually she gives off a very strong impression, but not this game. I'm going to have read her filter later.




Dolby
I liked this post of his. But overall I'm not sure. He's pretty quiet regardless of alignment. I'm sure we've lynched him way too many times as town in the past 2.5 years for being silent lol.




Mother of all Llamas
I STILL SWEAR THIS PERSON DOESN?T ACTUALLY EXIST. SHE?S A MYTH. LIKE THE LOCH NESS MONSTER. Either way, only two posts and hasn?t even logged on to TBT in two days. So if they have an action it?s not being utilised. Whether for good or bad. Can't say if avoiding or genuinely busy.




Alexi
Her post here to Aron based on a single post really rubs me the wrong way. It seemed over-dramatic and uncalled for. While my initial reading made me think town, my second is making me think 'this feels forced and unnecessary'. Alexi was scum in that game with Aron for the record.

Aight I still don't like Ares and Tardis, but if the majority will be for Nightmares I'm coo' with that too.

This post is also bugging me. Nightmares had posted more than Ares at this point!

I'm generally getting an off-vibe from her posts, but I'm not sure how to put that into words right now. I'd have to have another read.




Ashtot

Trundle is Town.

Other than just getting this general off tone from his posts, I don't like his level of certainty in this one. It's not "I think" it's phrased as if "this is fact". Just seems like he's trying to get the person who is most likely to catch him out on his side.

Plus, it reminds me Crys very certain post about entropy not being mafia here:

I think entropy answered that and I'm kinda seeing a weird scum bandwagon too...
why did you change your vote?
because entropy isn't mafia.

Even so, the fact Crys said he was scum before he died is throwing me through a bit of a loop. Usually I would take this to mean he's town and she's throwing us, but I'm looking at it and thinking well maybe it was a last ditch effort to bus him as at the time the votes were evenly split between like half a dozen people IIRC.

Also, I read the exchange between him and entropy over and I believe she might have been onto something with him.




Taesaek
Not sure how I feel right now.




Inkling
Can't tell if nub or scum. Leaning toward the former slightly.




Jacob
Unsure. Some of his posts give me a slight town lean, such as this one, as I feel his mindset is very town. But his posts don't really leave me with much of an impression. He's someone I need to look into more.




Tom
I believe his claim for now. Well, the lyncher part. I don't think he'd have played D1 so dangerously if he were scum tbh. I don't see a reason to lynch him right now.




Nightmares
When people were complaining about her lack of activity D1, it was very early morning GMT. As in 2am-6am. And the game only started at midnight GMT. Her posts after midnight were all regarding the direct we so unkindly timed for around the time the game started, so I'm assuming she stayed up for that and then went to bed. So I don't think anything regarding inactivity on her is valid tbh, even if she was the top poster for the day. They were made before the game started.

What does concern me more is not that Tardis made the initial statement (and I believe he would jump to a conclusion like that D1 without malicious intent) but that Caddberry and Xerolin immediately dogpiled on her. Even a friend who knows she is British and should have been aware she would have been asleep at that hour!

6:27am GMT.
Nightmares is avoiding the thread :( I wish she is talking more or she could be a newbie scum not very sure. But if she is posting every where else then I guess she is trying to hide so no one knows she is their and trying to get the town to focus on the active people.

6:30am GMT.
I know how easy it is to forget to post but since they are so active it does look noobie or scummy for Nightmares to be dodging the thread. They haven't posted since they asked to get in to the game, so I honestly don't know if they are pulling a mother's move or not of never posting

6:37am GMT.
Nightmares has a bit of a short attention span and a bit forgetful, I'll say as her friend. Plus she's in the UK, so time zone stuff too..

6:52am GMT.
but they were posting all day and they did have to respond to the role PM recently, I just find it avoiding rather then forgetful like.

7:08am GMT.
My guess is she's not interested since you don't roleplay as someone or that there's not really any plot or story, just figure out who's mafia or scum, lynch them. Just a guess.

7:14am GMT.
Nightmares has a bit of a short attention span and a bit forgetful, I'll say as her friend. Plus she's in the UK, so time zone stuff too..

regardless, why sign up for something you're going to avoid. being a noob or not, it does not justify not participating. don't waste peoples' times because you /think/ you want to play when you really don't / don't understand the game. play nub mafia instead.

I guess someone will need to remind her more.

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I still think she is avoiding the thread.

nobody needs to remind anybody to play something they signed up for.

As for her silence during N1, looking at her last post in this thread here at 5:17pm GMT and when she stopped posting for the night at 10:18pm GMT. For reference, assuming she didn't check the mafia thread at this time, she wouldn't have read beyond this post here that Ashot conveniently made at the same time. If it had been end of day I would see this as a problem, but as it's end of night I don't think it's anything to be concerned about. I'm more concerned about the people who are following Tardis' lead without looking into this properly themselves. Of the people who did this, taesaek stands out to me least; Xerolin the most.

So I feel Nightmares is leaning-town and is just being portrayed in a bad light by people who are taking Tardis word as fact, or are jumping on his false conclusion, as the facts don't seem to show someone who is avoiding something IMO.




Ares
Let's go with ares bandwagon and hope we hit scum.

While at first I was skeptical about this postl Crys made being an attempt to protect one of them later (if Ares got lynched for inactivity), I believe she just selected a town member she felt would be an easy lynch. New players always are.

He played a few games of Overwatch with my bf and I last night and before he went to bed said he'd just come home from a trip before going straight on the PS4. So I think he's genuinely been busy rather than actively avoiding the thread. However, what has me town-reading him is that I feel like he wouldn't have been so obvious to revenge vote Crys if they were on the same side. If they were aligned together he would have known it wasn't a genuine threat - especially when no one had bandwagoned on it yet. If he hadn't voted Crys then she wouldn't have even been lynched Day 1, as the only other vote on her was from entropy - who Tom had managed to make everyone suspicious of. So I'm leaning town on him.

And, as a side note, I actually agree with Ness & Ares that RQS is dumb. I've never filled one out for that very reason.




Hayden
Leaning town on him right now. I feel there are places where actually had common sense whereas as scum he could have just gone along with the crowd. It does feel like he's thinking for himself.




Aron
Nada. Zilch. I've got nothin'.




Ness/Tina
I'm rainbow goo :lemon:

He meant to say orange. I am orange goo.

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Cory
Did anyone expect crys to get lynched? No. That's why.
Also there is killing third party according to crys pm

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The town PMs say the same thing. If you were town, you would have already known that. Which makes me think either you're scum or a killing third party and just didn't think we were aware of this detail of the game too.




Xine
Her posts bother me right now. Just something doesn't feel as authentic about them as in previous games, yet it's like she's trying to imitate that same style of posting. Will come back to this later if I continue to feel this way.




Tardis2016
See what I said about Nightmares. I'm leaning town on him right now.




Xerolin
See my comments on Nightmares.




Cadbberry
See my comments on Nightmares, along with this quote:

Honestly I just want to vote Nightmares/llamas to get rid of people who dont even want to play, either that or hope they get modkilled. Not because they are inactive but because they dont seem to even want to look at this thread

Her determination to get rid of Nightmares bugs the heck out of me. Just feels like she's bandwagoning on Tardis - especially as Nightmares had already begun posting by this point.




Lacking in places I know but I kinda started getting bored after the two hour mark. So I forced another 30 minutes and now I need a break. There are people I want to look more into (those I don't say much about) but break is much needed.
 
Tina does make a good point about Cory, it does say on the PM's in bold... Perhaps possible hostile third party? I'd like to hear him out first though, it's still like 6am though for him
 
thanks Tina

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Tina does make a good point about Cory, it does say on the PM's in bold... Perhaps possible hostile third party? I'd like to hear him out first though, it's still like 6am though for him

@Heyden & Tina that is a stupid scum/third party slip i don't think he is that dumb?

@Tina and he is your main sus for that ? really ?
 
Right now, he's the person I'm most confident about simply because any town player would be playing this game with the knowledge in their heads that there is likely a killing third party as their PM implied it. Not knowing that before Crys' PM was posted says to me he didn't know that town PMs contain this knowledge. If he were town, it wouldn't have stood out to him as new information or anything worthwhile pointing out as everyone knew that already.

I didn't feel the need to regurgitate others comments about his behaviour, to be honest. Why beat around the bush instead of getting straight to the point?
 
Right now, he's the person I'm most confident about simply because any town player would be playing this game with the knowledge in their heads that there is likely a killing third party as their PM implied it. Not knowing that before Crys' PM was posted says to me he didn't know that town PMs contain this knowledge. If he were town, it wouldn't have stood out to him as new information or anything worthwhile pointing out as everyone knew that already.

I didn't feel the need to regurgitate others comments about his behaviour, to be honest. Why beat around the bush instead of getting straight to the point?

@Tina nah i get what you are saying, its just when i was mafia i automatically assumed the town PM said something like that cause its been in EVERY PM in EVERY GAME nearly so i think he was just pointing out the obvious. i dunno i could be wrong, ill keep my eye out for him.
 
Sorry for the inactivity I was out of town.

I'm gonna need a bit of catching up so I'll take a bit of time to read through the whole thread(or if someone can make a post to update all members/revise all the finer points it'd be appreciated). A few things I wanna take off my mind though.

Can't help but feel Cadberry is scum since she was so adamant upon lynching me and later was indecisive and didn't have any concrete reasons when she withdrew.

That being said @Alexi what makes you feel so uncertain about me?
 
if tom is a lyncher, it's possible that his target moved from entrophy to alexi because entrophy was killed last night. have nobody taken this into account? so now his main goal is to get alexi lynched at any cost, regardless if she's town aligned. it wont matter to him.

Lyncher could work like this but his role name does not. Tyrea only wanted to kill Melia

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Tina does make a good point about Cory, it does say on the PM's in bold... Perhaps possible hostile third party? I'd like to hear him out first though, it's still like 6am though for him

If you are Juju (Townie) do you read the full pm? No you just know you are townie and close it.
 
Okay but what still strikes me about Tom is that his wincon was to lynch entropy right? If he actually claims to be Survivor as well, I don't see why he would try and lynch a PR for his benefit when he could have chosen the other option to just tell people he's winning as long as he lives to the end. Last game I recall with a Lyncher was Minties's GoT Kingmaker, in which Dolby was Serial Killer/Lyncher with 2 targets which would make it easier for him to eliminate 2 in a game this size. Plus I'm pretty sure his lynchees died not by the cause of lynches. Something just doesn't add up completely with Tom now that I look back at it

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Lyncher could work like this but his role name does not. Tyrea only wanted to kill Melia

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If you are Juju (Townie) do you read the full pm? No you just know you are townie and close it.
yes, I like to skim through the flavour text in hopes of something I might miss. I remember in Dolby's Papers Please game as SK I missed the part where I could choose vest or return as town, luckily I had checked it before day ended bc someone asked me for a claim via PM. I like to pay attention to small things sometimes
 
That was a rhetorical question Hayden.
Also I guess xine didn't read my post. Becuase I have stated multiple times that tom is telling the truth. Tyreas role on here matches up perfectly to what she does in the source material.
 
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