Mafia Xenoblade Chronicles Mafia-Endgame

Well whoops. The game is gonna be spoiled for you.

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im so confused about all this theme talk i don't know anything about it, so do you want answer my question ? scum/town reads?

When I come home for Lunch I will start reads. I will try to finish when I come home.
I think knowing the source material will help town win.
 
@Cory who do you scum/town read at the moment ?

I'll give you a few I'll say reasons later

Town:
Cad
Nightmares
Panda

Scum:
Ashtot

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Tina is scum lean.
I do not think Tom is a threat to town at this moment.
Xine I am town leaning
 
@Xine, I never spoke to ares? also i already said im a townie bc i dont care about this game and it really is my last

a lot of cherry picking going on here. its like watching fox news

@Xine, I never spoke to ares? also i already said im a townie bc i dont care about this game and it really is my last

Do you actually believe that I would make something up about you? Why tf you lying. Why you always lyiin

The only reason I voted for crys was because she voted for me

That is ridiculous. Something fishy is going on here. Or stupid. I'm making dinner but I will definitely investigate this further along with the Cory thing when I have time later on.

Mmmmm oh my god, stop ****ing lying (;

About the second part, pretty sure I speak for everyone when I say that is pretty irrelevant and you seem like you are trying your hand at deflection but it is not working in your favor here. You can elaborate where exactly I am cherry picking unless you are going to continue to strawman my argument. Deja vu is hitting me hard.

What is your read on Cory, Inkling?
 
When I get home I want to analyze trundles reads.

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Hm. I have been null on them earlier.
If you are townie what is your role name inkling?

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I went too hard on ares I admit. It's their first game. But inkling said this at night not when it actually happened which is strange. She seems sort of salty about it.

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@xine how do you think inkling compares to herself in Donald trump Mafia?
 
Great question.
Because the role matches up perfectly. Unless he is sk/lyncher which I doubt looking at the kills.
I do not fully understand the last question in the first paragraph. Can you please elaborate on what you mean?

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Actually...looking at the wiki it's possible they are a third party team.
She is a part of the Bionite Order with Yumea
If we find a role named Yumea and is part of that team then tom is most likely with them.

"Is there more to it than the part about the game? " Is referring to Tom's rolename, and how you believe he is not lying about his claim due to the character in the game targeting Melia.

Why did you feel the need to roleclaim? Inkling claimed as well and it is starting to really annoy me. I assumed people would already know this by now, especially after last game.

Unless you're up for lynch, do NOT roleclaim. Not only does it look shady as ****, you are only narrowing down the PR's.
 
The pr role names are obvious.
I felt the need to role claim because it would defend my case of not reading my whole role pm.
 
if he was a killing role or part of a team they would probably have a safe claim. If someone wants to shoot him to see if he is sk with the bullet proof or coming back inspection as town go ahead. But I don't think tom would be able to make up this role name that works perfectly.
 
When I get home I want to analyze trundles reads.

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Hm. I have been null on them earlier.
If you are townie what is your role name inkling?

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I went too hard on ares I admit. It's their first game. But inkling said this at night not when it actually happened which is strange. She seems sort of salty about it.

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@xine how do you think inkling compares to herself in Donald trump Mafia?

In Donald Mafia Inkling posted reads and I ate them for breakfast. In this game she refrained from posting reads during the majority of Day 1, until she posted her townread on you, sus on Entropy, and townread on me. All of that was unexplained, but can be assumed to be because of our interaction on Day 1.

Something I noticed back then and now is that she is selective with her attention which makes her contradict herself. For example, this game: Entropy was suspicious for acting out of character, but others (I.E. Crys) were also acting out of character; My inactivity was suspicious but others were not.

Last game she strawmanned me by telling me I was grasping for straws instead of directly addressing the majority of my case on her, and this game she tells me I'm cherrypicking and strawmans again without being specific about what exactly I am missing in my case on her. If my argument was even the slightest bit faulty she should easily be able to counter it. Then she roleclaimed, which was downright comical.
 
1.PandaDarling
8.Taesaek
18.Cory
19.Xine
14.Ares
2.Dolby
4.Mother of all Llamas
10.Jacob
20.Tardis2016
11.Tom
17.Tina
5.Alexi
13.Nightmares
15.Hayden
21.Xerolin
6.Ashtot
9.Inkling
16.Aronthaer-Waiting on Replacement


Here are my color coded reads, wanted to get these out before I jet to school, I will be home in 7-8 hours so I apologize for not responding for a while if you have questions about anything.
 
Well, first off I guess I?ll just apologize for sucking this game, and basically all of my recent games for the past while. I don?t know why but when I sign up for Mafia I generally think I?m going to clean up my play and take things seriously but it never happens. I don?t know if I?m just lazy or tired or missing old players, but these aren?t good excuses anyway, and I?m going to try my best to be useful in these games instead of letting my team down every time.

I?ve taken the time to post my thoughts on everyone in the game.

PandaDarling:

Panda has posted a lot and I don?t really want to go through all of her posts, because it hasn?t been anything huge, but her play this game reminds me of her town play in the other games I?ve been in with her. I?m quite convinced by how she?s posting that she is Town aligned. This is due to the style, which is quick short posts and constantly putting a bit of pressure on different people. She is generally someone who you think might be coasting, but realistically is an asset to Town because of her questions, pressure, etc. Another tell that reminds me of past games is her seemingly angry posts that occur because she legitimately wants to see Town win, so she thinks stupid crap is really frustrating and annoying. I?m 99% sure that Panda is Town (none of this was meant to be an insult).

mother of all llamas:

I am going to vote Area based on his scummy behaviour. I have read back and his posts just stick out to me. His RQS he seemed very over confident and I feel like it was more forced. Also to backup would be his backlash on Crys so quickly... Unless something comes up I'll be placing my vote on him

mother of all llamas has been afk this game. This is the only post they?ve made so it isn?t much to go off of. I think it?s most likely just inactive green.

Dolby:

I found a quote that I found quite interesting.

Entropy or Ashtot

Entropy stole M3ow's skin. But in all seriousness her behavior is not normal for her. I don't like the continuous excuses that she's made in avoiding putting effort in

Because you hadn't done anything


People have posted their suspicions and your using the ****posting that was at the start of the day as an excuse for half of our dozen or so posts which are ****posts and noncontributivness. Moreover, I don't like the implied OMGUS with this. The only useful thing that you've done is point out ashtot's pocket on Trundle. Speaking of Ashtot...

I don't like Ashtot's instant townread on Trundle. Moreover, this comment right here rubs me the wrong way


I don't like how Nightmares disappeared after a few minutes wondering if day had started yet.



Anyone else consider this ironic given his revenge vote? Just checked the post links and this is his only post in the game

I find it interesting that Dolby was also pushing for Entropy. This is odd because Dolby is known for being someone who can easily find blue roles in a game, and with someone as forward and active as Entropy, I would think it would be easy for him to find out. In this context, It seems like Dolby is just off his game, but he could potentially have been going after an Entropy lynch because he knew that she was blue. Dolby hasn?t said much this game, but this post seems scummy to me, and I still think Dolby is most likely scum.

Alexi:

I don?t really understand Alexi because she has done things that seem very Town but also done things that seem kind of scummy. Overall, they've been posting a lot of their reads and trying to push the game forward, rather than stopping it, which is definitely Town play. I'm leaning towards her being Town but I'm not sure.

Taesaek:

Honestly the only thing that I find is weird with Tae is how defensive they are when it comes to certain players in the game. I?m not sure if it?s worth looking into or if they?re just friends, but I?m not sure it really matters because I doubt they would defend someone blindly without considering them for scum. So far I?ve read them as Town this game. They?ve been very aggressive, seemingly ticked off, and constantly pushing in order to get answers, which is good pro-Town behaviour, except maybe with a bit less hostility, but it?s understandable. I?m about 85% sure that Taesaek is Town.

Inkling:

Inkling made a couple posts but then randomly popped in last night and starting saying a bunch of random stuff. Most of it I didn?t understand, but it seemed that they were extremely emotional and it probably affected their playing. They focused on Panda and Myself and thought that Panda was scum because she was seemingly less aggressive than her typical Town play, which I disagree with. I think it's possible that they're scum, but I'm not sure at this point.

Jacob:

Jacob hasn?t posted that much in the last day, but his posts throw me off because the wording is just weird (not in a bad way, I?m just not used to it). He?s made a lot of posts that make it seem like he?s trying to go through the game with minimal effort and give blanket statements that seem helpful to Town. I lean toward him being third party or scum.

Tom:

I?ve said a lot about Tom this game, and I think everyone knows my stance on him, but to repeat it, I believe he is playing very pro-Town, and while he claims he is third party, he is an asset to Town at this point in the game. My preference is to let him be an asset and stop bothering him for now, but I can see why others would rather have him killed, because there is a chance he is still third party or scum.

Nightmares:

I don?t really have anything to say on them. They?ve only posted a little and most of their posts are trollish or irrelevant. I think they?re most likely inactive green.

Tina:

Tina is quite interesting because, in my experience, when Tina is Town, she is very, very Town. In all of my games with Tina, she went completely hardcore when Town aligned and makes lots of giant posts, and makes it very obvious that she is Town. In this game, Tina doesn?t seem to care much, which is typical for her as third party or scum. I haven?t played with Tina that recently, but if her play is still similar to old times, I believe without a doubt that Tina is third party or scum. I?ve heard her make excuses of being busy before to counter arguments like this, but it?s always an excuse and never a reality because if she is Town she cares too much not to try.

Ares:

Ares has been afk, but they?ve apparently come back so hopefully they?ll be more active. This is the only quote of any significance that I found.

Lol you're gonna seriously regret lynching me

It?s a huge stretch but it?s possible that they were soft claiming a jester type role.

Hayden:

I honestly don?t know, they haven?t posted much, and from what I know of them outside Mafia (they sent me a flower calling me a lovely lady), they?re just as unpredictable as in Mafia.

Cory:

Cory is a weird dude, but he?s been actually trying this game. Some of his posts seem really sloppy but I think it?s because he?s on mobile. Cory used to be similar to my level of quality in this game but he?s stepped up a lot and he?s behaving very pro-Town this game. He hasn?t been inconsistent. I?m 85% sure he is Town.

Xine:

I don?t think I?ve ever played with Xine, but they seem extremely competent, as well as aggressive. So far they?ve grilled people, including myself, posted thoughtful reads, and asked questions. I think they?re most likely Town, but something about them makes me think of past players who were really great at being Town even if they were actually scum.

Tardis2016:

They've mostly been repeating what others say and just coasting off of following the leader. I don?t have a read on them.

Sorry I haven't been talking. I don't really like night talk that much. And don't want the mafia to get me.

This is the only thing I think is really weird, but it makes me think they?re just noob Town rather than Mafia.

Xerolin:

They haven?t really done anything other than defend a couple afk players and say that they are going to post reads or make a case on people but never follow through. They?re playing like scum but I don?t know if it?s that or just not interested in the game.

Caddberry:

I think they?re new, but I?m not really sure. Regardless, they seem like they?re actually trying and they?ve been playing decently pro-Town, though not putting that much effort in. They even made sure to think through things and not simply be a sheep. I think Caddberry is Town.
 
Tina:

Tina is quite interesting because, in my experience, when Tina is Town, she is very, very Town. In all of my games with Tina, she went completely hardcore when Town aligned and makes lots of giant posts, and makes it very obvious that she is Town. In this game, Tina doesn?t seem to care much, which is typical for her as third party or scum. I haven?t played with Tina that recently, but if her play is still similar to old times, I believe without a doubt that Tina is third party or scum. I?ve heard her make excuses of being busy before to counter arguments like this, but it?s always an excuse and never a reality because if she is Town she cares too much not to try.

I spent two and a half hours on a massive post this morning. I think I care about this game!

If you look back at my recent games, you'll see I don't go as hardcore as I used to anymore. I honestly didn't enjoy spending 7+ hrs a day for three days on a game to keep dying N1 over and over so I changed my approach e.g. playing less obsessively. Being able to survive N1 as town actually makes the game fun again.
 
Lyncher could work like this but his role name does not. Tyrea only wanted to kill Melia
^^^^

Okay but what still strikes me about Tom is that his wincon was to lynch entropy right? If he actually claims to be Survivor as well, I don't see why he would try and lynch a PR for his benefit when he could have chosen the other option to just tell people he's winning as long as he lives to the end. Last game I recall with a Lyncher was Minties's GoT Kingmaker, in which Dolby was Serial Killer/Lyncher with 2 targets which would make it easier for him to eliminate 2 in a game this size. Plus I'm pretty sure his lynchees died not by the cause of lynches. Something just doesn't add up completely with Tom now that I look back at it
I believe I explained it before, but allow me to explain it again.

So long as Entropy/Melia was alive in this game, my entire role was lyncher. If you've ever played IRC mafia, consider my suvivor part a sleeper type. It doesn't come into play unless Entropy/Melia dies. Once they died, I was informed that I was no longer Lyncher due to my target dying and that now my goal was merely to survive until the end.

So since my only active role D1/N1 was that of the Lyncher, my entire goal was making sure Entropy was lynched and myself on that bandwagon. Hence my attempt to ask the doctor to protect them.

Tom, have you ever played Xenoblade before? Your posts implied that you have not, but I would like a direct answer.
I own, I have played it for like an hour or so tops before I ended up switching it out for a different game. It's a length JRPG, so I was very much still in the tutorial. I could probably dig around for the playtime record on my Wii and take a picture if you'd like.
 
My reads

null | town reads | town leans | sus | scum leans | scum reads

PandaDarling- Like her interactions with others, specifically me. I can tell that she is trying to town-solve

Dolby- Usually posts stuff of better substance at this point in the game. He says he had ap tests and is done with them today. I don't think we should lynch him today. I want to hear more from him.

Mother of all llamas - The one post (that had substance) they had was joining the Ares wagon, but they do this no matter if they are town or mafia.

Alexi- One thing you will see with my scumreads/leans is they they all pocket me. She seems to be getting very paranoid when anyone suspects her.
Okay, and reasoning... ?
why do you slight scum read me.

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You went from it's "Jacob, me, Tom"

to all of a sudden Jacob is in the green.


Ashtot- Who I am voting for today. He more than anyone else pockets me when I am scum. He has not been pro-town at all. He is actively derailing town with his talk about horse penis.

Taesaek-I like his posts and I feel that they are very pro-town. Especially with inactives. I don't think scum would push inactives to start posting more.

Inkling- Emotional appeals? Check. Pocketing me? Check.
i think that was lucky or on purpose
This post raises major red flags for me.


Jacob- I'm not really sure. Not much to say.
Ok the next step is to look at your notes that I told you guys to take d1 and see who Crys was against.
Keep in mind bussing. Keep in mind Dolby.
This post was a bit strange to me.

I have spoke many times about Tom, so I am not including him

Nightmares- Derpclear

Ares- Not on the same team as crys most likely. But they could be on third party team. Town read for now because it seemed like a nub mistake that actually worked.

Hayden- I think if Tina flips scum then Hayden will flip scum too. Their interactions have been...strange. Hayden seems like he is trying to push Tina to post more. This is just a thought though, nothing to big for him to be a lynch candidate for today

Tina- Watch out for her. While she isn't pocketing me like how I think the other scum are. It seemed like she had to go out of her way to scumread me.

Xine- Have great posts of course. I'm giving her a townread now because entropy died and I thought they would be on the same team.

Tardis2016- I have no clue how tardis plays, I will probably never know. It's irradic

Xerolin- One post of theirs really did not sit right with me.
And yeah Tyrea is a villian
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems like they want to lynch Tom today at that moment in time. And just said that she's a villain without even playing the game or checking the wiki.

Cadberry- I know that some people scumread them. But I just don't see it. I like their exchange with me like I already said. I feel like they are saying things that scum would never say.
 
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