ACNH × Sanrio Crossover Discussion + Question Thread 💗

[Matt0106]

I feel so stupid, I was with the phone at the time it was posted here and I forgot to come check the thread

Don't feel bad! I missed the first set of pre-orders for Best Buy in Canada. Just keeping checking back at this thread and keep checking whatever sites are selling them for your country regularly; that's what I'm doing to maximize my chances.

 

[nightglow]

Do the Sanrio amiibo cards actually contain data or are they simply going to unlock content that will be updated into the game? If it’s just unlocking content once the update gets added to the game then Nintendo is basically holding back content from people that purchased the game by choosing not to produce enough copies for everyone that wants it simply to create hype through artificial scarcity. If that’s how Nintendo wishes to operate then I have no problem in buying from someone else.

What I understand (I can be completely wrong) since there is an update in order for the cards to work, and since the old cards will work just like the new cards,.... I think the cards are like a "key" to unlock the content that is in the update- (being able to have the villagers and their furniture)

edit after double checking- that yes the Sanrio Rugs appear to be new yet the cards are a reprint.

 

[Cosmic-chan]

It just shouldn't this difficult or stressful to get some damn cards. OMG Nintendo what are y'all doing?

 

[Bilaz]

I’m wondering about this as well. I really wouldn’t be surprised if they did lock the items so you couldn’t trade for them.

I just... really doubt this? Nintendo has never trade locked an item in any animal crossing game before, and it just doesn't seem like something that would happen in a console game

 

[tajikey]

I don’t know how Robux works but I’m guessing they’re easily purchasable for anyone that wants them. In the case of Nintendo, they’re pretty much telling people that will be unable to purchase the cards due to making them limited that they’re not interested in our money. They could easily do something like the Robux that that you mentioned and ofter to unlock the Sanrio content digitally but they choose not to.

I guess you could say that I’m just trying to do mental gymnastics to justify buying them elsewhere but not being able to get the items that are going to be included in the game because Nintendo refuses to take my money just doesn’t sit right with me.

No problem with feeling that, none at all, and I do see your point. It would be awesome of Nintendo to make the DLC virtual so that everyone has access, but that's not how they roll, at least not with ACNH Amiibos (or Amiibos at all, for that matter).

It just shouldn't this difficult or stressful to get some damn cards. OMG Nintendo what are y'all doing?

You do realize we're still 22 days away from the official launch, right? Granted, it'd be nice of Target to communicate their intentions, but maybe that's slated for next week, or the week after.

 

[Cosmic-chan]

No problem with feeling that, none at all, and I do see your point. It would be awesome of Nintendo to make the DLC virtual so that everyone has access, but that's not how they roll, at least not with ACNH Amiibos (or Amiibos at all, for that matter).


You do realize we're still 22 days away from the official launch, right? Granted, it'd be nice of Target to communicate their intentions, but maybe that's slated for next week, or the week after.

I know it's still far away but, the lack of communication and all the confusion this has caused already sucks.

 

[tajikey]

I know it's still far away but, the lack of communication and all the confusion this has caused already sucks.

I do not disagree.

 

[AgentCP]

This may sound pessimistic but I feel like Target does not plan on doing preorders. The banner has been up for a while now and if they wanted to, they could've put preorder page not long after they put up Sanrio banner. There are several amiibo figures to be released at 3/26 and their preorders were ages ago.
Well, hopefully I'm wrong. Preorders will put many people (myself included) at ease. It's strange that they don't even have a product page. So, maybe the time that they finally set sanrio page up will be the time they drop (pre)order. I remember Mario Switch did not have preorder but it, at least, had a product page. The page just did not have any button until release day.

 

[JSS]

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't disagree with the flipper/scalper model just as much as you don't disagree with the crafter/bootlegger model, and that's perfectly fine. It is nice to be able to have the discourse without people getting raging mad about it, so thank you for that.

Aren't you that one poster who publicly claimed they were buying 4 or 5 packs of these limited cards? If that was you this really doesn't help paint you in a better light.

Regardless, there generally being no law against scalping doesn't make it right or less wrong than "thieves" as you call them. Both things are stealing in some way, the difference is one side exploits an existing loophole in the law. I'd argue scalpers ARE worse because they take actual physical supply to resell at much higher value that only the wealthier can afford. It preys on both the poor and people with fear on missing out.

Meanwhile custom cards are (for now) available whether or not there is supply and are essentially a dirt cheap option to get specific characters without relying on strangers online for trading where you're not guaranteed anything. I could go on and on about the "ethics" of scalping and even Nintendo's business strategies, but I've wasted enough of my time as is writing to someone who in my opinion seems more afraid of the idea of everyone having access to what this update is bringing. Food for thought.

 

[tajikey]

Aren't you that one poster who publicly claimed they were buying 4 or 5 packs of these limited cards? If that was you this really doesn't help paint you in a better light.

Regardless, there generally being no law against scalping doesn't make it right or less wrong than "thieves" as you call them. Both things are stealing in some way, the difference is one side exploits an existing loophole in the law. I'd argue scalpers ARE worse because they take actual physical supply to resell at much higher value that only the wealthier can afford. It preys on both the poor and people with fear on missing out.

Meanwhile custom cards are (for now) available whether or not there is supply and are essentially a dirt cheap option to get specific characters without relying on strangers online for trading where you're not guaranteed anything. I could go on and on about the "ethics" of scalping and even Nintendo's business strategies, but I've wasted enough of my time as is writing to someone who in my opinion seems more afraid of the idea of everyone having access to what this update is bringing. Food for thought.

Yep, I sure am. Had you continued reading after that, you would have seen that if I do end up getting 4 or 5 packs, my first priority is to make sure folks here who may have missed their chance have a second one, without being "forced" to pay increased prices or purchase illegal items. However, if my extra supply outweighs the demand here, I will most certainly do what I can to recover my money, and if someone wants to pay me more than what I paid, who am I to deny them that? That's what bootleggers do too, right? Otherwise, they wouldn't be making them (fault is on you if you think they do it out of the kindness of their own hearts).

But I'm not going to continue to jump on this merry-go-round, especially considering the AC community is generally accepting of bootlegged Amiibos, as illegal and unethical as they may be. To each their own, I say.

 

[Licorice]

Yep, I sure am. Had you continued reading after that, you would have seen that if I do end up getting 4 or 5 packs, my first priority is to make sure folks here who may have missed their chance have a second one, without being "forced" to pay increased prices or purchase illegal items. However, if my extra supply outweighs the demand here, I will most certainly do what I can to recover my money, and if someone wants to pay me more than what I paid, who am I to deny them that? That's what bootleggers do too, right? Otherwise, they wouldn't be making them (fault is on you if you think they do it out of the kindness of their own hearts).

But I'm not going to continue to jump on this merry-go-round, especially considering the AC community is generally accepting of bootlegged Amiibos, as illegal and unethical as they may be. To each their own, I say.

So you’re going to buy multiple packs so others don’t miss out? People buying up packs is the reason others would miss out. Make it make sense lmao

 

[Cosmic-chan]

So you’re going to buy multiple packs so others don’t miss out? People buying up packs is the reason others would miss out. Make it make sense lmao

He's saying he's buying more than one pack so he can give them way to other less fortunate to get them. He's not going to sell them at high prices unlike scalpers.

 

[Peach_Jam]

imho I just don't think making nfc cards should be put on the same level as scalpers. Scalpers are buying excessive amounts from limited available stock (and pricing them insanely), whereas nfc makers are creating entirely new cards and don't charge anywhere near as much as scalpers do. While it can be argued that both are unethical, nfc makers are essentially doing what Nintendo doesn't want to do-create more stock.

 

[tajikey]

He's saying he's buying more than one pack so he can give them way to other less fortunate to get them. He's not going to sell them at high prices unlike scalpers.

100% this.

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imho I just don't think making nfc cards should be put on the same level as scalpers. Scalpers are buying excessive amounts from limited available stock (and pricing them insanely), whereas nfc makers are creating entirely new cards and don't charge anywhere near as much as scalpers do. While it can be argued that both are unethical, nfc makers are essentially doing what Nintendo doesn't want to do-create more stock.

They're doing it with stolen property, scalpers are not.

 

[nightglow]

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100% this.

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They're doing it with stolen property, scalpers are not.

Scalpers buying all stock, then selling way higher with Nintendo's name is theft and does take away sales from Nintendo.. however Nintendo hasn't taken action against it nor the bootleg stuff.

 

[tajikey]

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Scalpers buying all stock, then selling way higher with Nintendo's name is theft and does take away sales from Nintendo.. however Nintendo hasn't taken action against it nor the bootleg stuff.

Nintendo made all they intended to when the retailers paid up on the invoices. What happens after, Nintendo couldn't care less. Same for companies like Topps, Upper Deck, and Panini.

 

[nightglow]

Nintendo made all they intended to when the retailers paid up on the invoices. What happens after, Nintendo couldn't care less. Same for companies like Topps, Upper Deck, and Panini.

I agree. But it does take away sales from Nintendo because they aren't doing anything to slow down or discourage scalpers.
I also find it a little unfair to assume all bootlegs are from stolen property. Cloning an amiibo that was official is a thing and I have seen some sellers do that instead of finding a data dump. Them selling the clones is no different than a scalper buying all the stock and reselling it way higher... except the bootlegger isn't using Nintendo's name and the bootlegger is putting more in circulation.

 

[tajikey]

I agree. But it does take away sales from Nintendo because they aren't doing anything to slow down or discourage scalpers.
I also find it a little unfair to assume all bootlegs are from stolen property. Cloning an amiibo that was official is a thing and I have seen some sellers do that instead of finding a data dump. Them selling the clones is no different than a scalper buying all the stock and reselling it way higher... except the bootlegger isn't using Nintendo's name and the bootlegger is putting more in circulation.

Wouldn't cloning be a form of theft, no different than copying a CD or DVD? It's one thing to duplicate for personal use, another to duplicate for personal gain.

 

[nightglow]

Wouldn't cloning be a form of theft, no different than copying a CD or DVD? It's one thing to duplicate for personal use, another to duplicate for personal gain.

Yes. However, unless I am mistaken, Nintendo allows back ups of Amiibos.. which is cloning them.
However, I think one of the main reasons why Nintendo doesn't seem to have much of a bother with bootlegs is because they literally are keeping the scalper issue from getting much worse.
But at the end of the day, I still find it dumb and unwise for Nintendo to not do another method of content.

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If the scalper issue ever does get worse, and Nintendo doesn't change their methods (or even if they do change their methods but fail at their goal), people could just avoid Nintendo products all together regardless of who is selling them. You don't get that issue with bootleggers... even if there is nothing competing with bootleggers, and bootleggers become an unstoppable army, there are still people out there who would rather have the offical Nintendo stuff.. because of Nintendo's name.

 

[KayDee]

What I understand (I can be completely wrong) since there is an update in order for the cards to work, and since the old cards will work just like the new cards,.... I think the cards are like a "key" to unlock the content that is in the update- (being able to have the villagers and their furniture)

edit after double checking- that yes the Sanrio Rugs appear to be new yet the cards are a reprint.

I forgot that the old cards would work the same so you’re right they’re definitely just keys to unlock what’s going to be added into the game. This makes it even more annoying if you miss out on the cards knowing that this content is basically in your game but you can’t access it
because Nintendo limited the availability of the cards for no reason.