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so a cop could still be in this game then?

though I'd still see balance issues having two confirmeds at the get-go and an investigative role, without the investigative role being nerfed somehow (crazy, naive, etc.)

Eh, I see balancing in this game as being based around if there are three or four scum, and if scum have N1 kills, which is why I’ve been hesitant so far to make any assumptions about game balance. These possibilities would seriously alter what Trundle would include on the town team
 
Oh, are you saying it might be unbalanced for there to be a cop in a game with masons? I never considered that possibility (I thought cops were a part of every mafia game) but I suppose that could be true.

No iirc she had a doctor a cop Masons and someone who could stop a lynch
 
Legit Bianca you are almost certainly town. Stop posting so much. (this is hypocritical smh)

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Btw I might not be able to do some ISOs today, computer issues.
 
Right now my mind is all over the place. I have not had the time to look at any body in isolation, but I have like 4 grouping of different people who have unjustifiably (in my mind) elevated each other in their reads. I do believe that one of these groupings likely includes multiple scum on it, but the only people who I really trust as likely town are Ness, Tina, and Dad I guess. Which is a bad sign since those three are probably the three most capable of fooling me

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Of course, I trust Punchy as wel lol
 
if masons are in a game, it's very unlikely a cop is in that game. Mason converts are used to confirm who is or isn't town, which eliminates the need for a cop

I bet there is a cop in the game, the masons probably have some sort of catch to them. Something we aren't being told
 
Yeah after night 1, we can pretty much see if there are cops and masons. So yeah ur right, lynching Dolby or Punchy this day cycle is not as good because we can confirm if there is a cop after night 1. (hopefully we can know by day 2)

Cop should not out themselves at all. Their role would be rendered useless from then on out.

There's no reason to think a cop wouldn't be in this game. Dolby/Punchy are only confirmed to each other and I doubt Trundle designed the game with the intention of masons outing themselves D0.
 
Right now my mind is all over the place. I have not had the time to look at any body in isolation, but I have like 4 grouping of different people who have unjustifiably (in my mind) elevated each other in their reads. I do believe that one of these groupings likely includes multiple scum on it, but the only people who I really trust as likely town are Ness, Tina, and Dad I guess. Which is a bad sign since those three are probably the three most capable of fooling me

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Of course, I trust Punchy as wel lol

Could you elaborate on this please?
 
Could you elaborate on this please?

As I said earlier, I think that Vanessa/Waffles/Toads feel linked in not sussing each other at any point (though recently Toads and Vanessa have pivoted to be a bit more anti-waffles), and in going after Rune (even in that period when Toads was running on the platform of not being me or Ness, which I felt was sus as hell at the time), but I also see Glow/Rune as linked. Bianca is sussing the few inscribed that I want to consider town, and Byngo is defending her, but honestly, I might just drop that, but at the time, my gut told me that Bianca’s continued focus on me and Lunchy was weird, but now I think it’s like when Panda was going after Uttumori, a purported cop check, in SU2. Basically, she’s letting her reads and gut feeling go against the reality of the game, which I actually kinda see as townish now, but with Bianca specifically I really don’t know

What I was saying there was that I am seeing a lot of personal links between players and I don’t know which ones are real and which were imagined. Most realistic right now I feel are Toads/Vanessa/Waffles, but I think that Glow/Rune is fairly possible

I really need to iso people though, particularly Toads. I feel like my initial opinion of his campaign is influencing me to much

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The few players that I’m not confident in (you, Dad, Ness, Punchy)

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Confident in
 
I commented about Waffles' change in tone like before any other person. And I stand by she is scummy
 
As I said earlier, I think that Vanessa/Waffles/Toads feel linked in not sussing each other at any point (though recently Toads and Vanessa have pivoted to be a bit more anti-waffles), and in going after Rune (even in that period when Toads was running on the platform of not being me or Ness, which I felt was sus as hell at the time), but I also see Glow/Rune as linked. Bianca is sussing the few inscribed that I want to consider town, and Byngo is defending her, but honestly, I might just drop that, but at the time, my gut told me that Bianca’s continued focus on me and Lunchy was weird, but now I think it’s like when Panda was going after Uttumori, a purported cop check, in SU2. Basically, she’s letting her reads and gut feeling go against the reality of the game, which I actually kinda see as townish now, but with Bianca specifically I really don’t know

What I was saying there was that I am seeing a lot of personal links between players and I don’t know which ones are real and which were imagined. Most realistic right now I feel are Toads/Vanessa/Waffles, but I think that Glow/Rune is fairly possible

I really need to iso people though, particularly Toads. I feel like my initial opinion of his campaign is influencing me to much

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The few players that I’m not confident in (you, Dad, Ness, Punchy)

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Confident in

what is it with u and dad misusing defense

i was staring my opinions of her behavior. again it would possibly be a defense if she was a serious lynch candidate, but was she?
 
I commented about Waffles' change in tone like before any other person. And I stand by she is scummy

I guess technically Rune was the first person I commented on, but I've had waffles on scum radar since the second day of this game after my campaign fiasco
 
As I said earlier, I think that Vanessa/Waffles/Toads feel linked in not sussing each other at any point (though recently Toads and Vanessa have pivoted to be a bit more anti-waffles)
Dolby
Go re-read RHOM
I bus my teammates I don't make 12467 posts defending them and state that I like their ideas in front of the entire nation
This is just as bad as when you lynched me for defending Byngo in Shyna

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And no I am not teamed with Runeraider and bussing him either

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The reason I don't sus toads is because I DON'T FIND HIS BEHAVIOUR SCUM INDICATIVE and also because since every single person susses him except me, this train is very obviously a scum hiding place since should toads be lynched and flip town, EVERYONE sussed him so nobody can blame each other for leading a lynch on a town

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Also also I don't think I ever once stated I was pro Waffles
 
@Vanessa, from your behavior in Rhom, I would definitely say that oh aren’t bussing Rune lol, but really you are overstating the degree of bussing that took place. You intentionally kept one teammate (Endless) null and one (Heyden) sus, but deliberately went out to speak out against lynching either of them. Moreover, in your posting that game, your opinions of them seemed really different than from how you interacted with them in hindsight (this is more prominent with Endless, as you interacted with him in a way analogous to him being a strong townread)

Moreover, you intentionally worked to keep the lynch off of both of them, frequebtly keeping Heyden off of your sus list on every lynch possible (up until the Waffles thing). And again, this specific feature goes towards why I’m conflicted. I honestly haven’t read up on my susses as much as I should have, instead reading the thread as a whole in general(because that’s what I prefer to do in limited time), but I do get he general feeling of Rune v you/Toads

Waffles isn’t on my sus list due to a link with you based on your past play tbc, recently you’ve been more against her. Waffles is sus to me for that whole anti-Dolby thing at the very start of the game

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Though yes, I do have that axis, Waffles has been on my concerning list for awhile

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Actually, I’ve kinda just looked back and realized that I accidentally shifted Rune down a place within Waffles reads list when I read it lol

Oops
 
I didn't work to keep the lynch of Heyden I was like the only person consistently sussing him I just said there's no point of lynching him because he was already doused lol BUT THATS IRRELEVANT basically I just think your "axis" is broken and should be thrown away even tho I would agree with Glow/Rune possibly
 
I just have a feeling that we will mislynch day 1, as with the case with other mafia games the way we follow trends.
 
Just a heads up - the end of night will be delayed by a few hours. I'll try to lock the thread when night ends, so have your actions in by 7 EST regardless.
 
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