Mafia American Politics Mafia - Game Over - Town Wins!

[toadsworthy]

i’m still trying to make sense of this reply

where did i talk about making someone president based on “bad reads”

my post was about ur specific approach to the game. u said if u were prez, you’d pay attention to what everyone is saying because “the majority is town”, and you’d townread those that “influenced you to lynch scum”

my point was, just because the majority is saying something it doesn’t mean they’re all town and it definitely doesn’t mean they’re all right. also, if your approach to the game is to listen to what everyone else says then base your reads on whoever did or did not push on mafia, you’re playing the game backwards

the first question of my reply was a rhetorical question... I meant that electing someone based on this early of reads is a crap shoot. I may have an idea of who is town or scum leaning, but my track record is that I'm wrong a lot of the time about both. So knowing this, I wouldn't want to give that power to someone to use all willy-nilly, rather put it on someone who promises to use it democratically (and if I didn't, I would get lynched or vig-shotted). If I said I'd townread those that "influence me to lynch scum" I rescind that and didn't mean it like that. Poorly typed and wrought by emotions because like I said yesterday was also a bad day.

And this majority conversation is weird... I don't know what point you are trying to make with it. My stance was that, looking at all the people who would be talking to me about the extra vote, the majority of them by numbers are town. I'm well aware though that mafia could all be influencing me together purposefully while all the townies are all over the place. But in this case, it would be pretty obvious who mafia is then.

If the prez power is separated, this listening to other people business would be for the second vote... I can still have my own separate opinion about the game and vote for I want. But I'm offering this alternative to not giving one person extra power.

And yeah the president power isn't like thaaaaat strong, but this is my stance on the matter. Its a weird and different situation, so I think its different from typical mafia gameplay

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*emphasis on I wasn't calling your reads bad glow, but saying that early reads are typically misguided and not accurate for everyone in general

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Argh I'm so dumb

 

[toadsworthy]

My reason for backing Vanessa like I did, was because at the end of kingmaker she was planning on being a good person despite being scum. Good person = good president. Also is punchy's wincon to get Dolby elected? Either way, His deal sounds sketchy

lol I totally called it btw
if anything I would be convinced to vote punchy since Dolby's wincon essentially just got screwed over... but punchy as president is eeeeeee

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Vigilante shoot me I'm not worth it

 

[Dolby]

lol I totally called it btw
if anything I would be convinced to vote punchy since Dolby's wincon essentially just got screwed over... but punchy as president is eeeeeee

No, neither of us are what Punchy said (whatever it would be). I talked to him in our chat and aparrently his plan was to see if he could get me elected and survive the whole game, which admittedly would be a good plan if it wasn’t so infeasible (even if I had been elected), as town would be guaranteed the win if we got into f5 or f3 with both of us still alive

 

[toadsworthy]

this would be a pretty bold move for Dolby and Punchy as scum to even do. Would they turn into survivors if they don't get someone elected if they are actually TP? I'm willing to believe it for now... but I'm not sold on it yet.

 

[PunchyTheCat]

lol I totally called it btw
if anything I would be convinced to vote punchy since Dolby's wincon essentially just got screwed over... but punchy as president is eeeeeee

The whole reason that I was ok with being mayor was bc Dolby could tell me how to be a good dictator in the qt so electing me basically is electing Dolby... but go ahead.

 

[Chris]

RIP Dolby and Punchy, but I mean, unless they're actually just scum and making this up (which is possible but I doubt, because why would Dolby confirm sharing a quicktopic with Punchy if he was scum), at least by electing them we know we're not electing scum...

Actually nvm if they're TP they have no reason to vote in favour of town and we can't trust them

Actually, I think scum!Dolby would have had little choice but to go along with Punchy. If he denied it, effectively bussing Punchy, then it?d be a matter of time before a Punchy lynch that would no doubt lead to Dolby?s death shortly after. Regardless of alignment Punchy left Dolby in a position where denying it would have had more drawbacks than benefits. The only reason I could see Dolby having for denying a connection to Punchy would be if he legitimately had no connection to him.

Even if they?re town I don?t think I believe the ?straight mason? claim. The fact Dolby chose to phrase it that way at all instead of just saying ?mason? strikes me as peculiar. If one of them do flip town it?d be wise to watch for any inconsistencies following one or the others death.

 

[Dolby]

The whole reason that I was ok with being mayor was bc Dolby could tell me how to be a good dictator in the qt so electing me basically is electing Dolby... but go ahead.

This is basically why I said Punchy for President last night

 

[PunchyTheCat]

lol wait until you get Mason chat at endgame

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Actually, I think scum!Dolby would have had little choice but to go along with Punchy. If he denied it, effectively bussing Punchy, then it’d be a matter of time before a Punchy lynch that would no doubt lead to Dolby’s death shortly after. Regardless of alignment Punchy left Dolby in a position where denying it would have had more drawbacks than benefits. The only reason I could see Dolby having for denying a connection to Punchy would be if he legitimately had no connection to him.

Even if they’re town I don’t think I believe the “straight mason” claim. The fact Dolby chose to phrase it that way at all instead of just saying “mason” strikes me as peculiar. If one of them do flip town it’d be wise to watch for any inconsistencies following one or the others death.

We are Masons. I'm a rock.

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I legit feel so bad for Dolby, I screwed him over so badly

 

[Dolby]

Actually, I think scum!Dolby would have had little choice but to go along with Punchy. If he denied it, effectively bussing Punchy, then it’d be a matter of time before a Punchy lynch that would no doubt lead to Dolby’s death shortly after. Regardless of alignment Punchy left Dolby in a position where denying it would have had more drawbacks than benefits. The only reason I could see Dolby having for denying a connection to Punchy would be if he legitimately had no connection to him.

Even if they’re town I don’t think I believe the “straight mason” claim. The fact Dolby chose to phrase it that way at all instead of just saying “mason” strikes me as peculiar. If one of them do flip town it’d be wise to watch for any inconsistencies following one or the others death.

It literally says in our PMs that the other is confirmed to be town. Hosts don’t lie, even Trundle in an experimental game

 

[toadsworthy]

Punchy do you know Dolby's role?

Don't tell us what it is... but do you know what it is? and did Dolby tell it to you or did Trundle tell it to you?

 

[toadsworthy]

It literally says in our PMs that the other is confirmed to be town. Hosts don’t lie, even Trundle in an experimental game

ok jk, this answers my question I just asked... would he lie though? this is politics though

 

[PunchyTheCat]

I seriously doubt it toads we're masons.

 

[toadsworthy]

I seriously doubt it toads we're masons.

I meant would trundle lie and say you were both town, then one of you actually be scum

 

[PunchyTheCat]

I meant would trundle lie and say you were both town, then one of you actually be scum

Nope he wouldn't.

 

[Chris]

I meant would trundle lie and say you were both town, then one of you actually be scum

I doubt this.

My concern is more the chance that the death of one ends up triggering a role/alignment change in the other.


I want to ISO when I get to a computer just to confirm the timeline of events, but I think Dolby/Punchy are more likely to be town than scum if my memories are in the right order.

Can we please have post links when you’ve time?[/b]

 

[toadsworthy]

I doubt this.

My concern is more the chance that the death of one ends up triggering a role/alignment change in the other.


I want to ISO when I get to a computer just to confirm the timeline of events, but I think Dolby/Punchy are more likely to be town than scum if my memories are in the right order.

Can we please have post links when you’ve time?[/b]

I agree

 

[N e s s]

Dolby and Punchy should be confirmed Town now. Mason claims are absolute; if one dies, then it confirms the alignment of the other. I do not necessarily want Dolby as president, but I feel as if he should absolutely be an option. In the off chance there's some twist to his role (say, they're twin serial killers or something) then we'll know should him or punchy die.

 

[cornimer]

Friendly reminder that until the post links are up, if you click on the number of posts the thread has, it shows you how many times each player has posted, and then if you click on that number it shows you all of the individual's posts

(You probably all knew that ik it's not as convenient but just incase)

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Friendly reminder that until the post links are up, if you click on the number of posts the thread has, it shows you how many times each player has posted, and then if you click on that number it shows you all of the individual's posts

(You probably all knew that ik it's not as convenient but just incase)