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You're fine @kikotoot, we're having fun. I just think it's funny how I wasn't sus of you at all until you made that big long post that made me overthink everything you said.

I think the biggest thing to decide on now is whether or not we vote tonight. It sounds like most people are in favor of waiting it out for one more night, so that hopefully people can use their abilities to gain more information. We would lose another townie, but it would be better than losing two townies because we voted wrong.
 
There's just a lot of unknowns atm

the main one is the fact that you (to our knowledge, as you've made no claims/provided no info on it, which is totally ok cuz it's the early game after all) didn't use a power tonight, while simultaneously believing your power didn't need recharging.

There aren't too many scenarios I can think of where a power that can be used freely *wouldn't* be used freely, especially when it can possibly help shed some light on a, presently, very dark game. At the same time, I don't know what powers exist usually in mafia, so I could be wrong here.
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responding to Emolga^
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You're fine @kikotoot, we're having fun. I just think it's funny how I wasn't sus of you at all until you made that big long post that made me overthink everything you said.

I think the biggest thing to decide on now is whether or not we vote tonight. It sounds like most people are in favor of waiting it out for one more night, so that hopefully people can use their abilities to gain more information. We would lose another townie, but it would be better than losing two townies because we voted wrong.

I appreciate it!
(though I could've been pretending to be worried too, you never know 👀)
for real though, I do think I'll calm down a bit more, for strategic reasons if anything
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"There aren't too many scenarios I can think of where a power that can be used freely *wouldn't* be used freely, especially when it can possibly help shed some light on a, presently, very dark game. At the same time, I don't know what powers exist usually in mafia, so I could be wrong here."

Quoting myself here, this kind also goes for everyone who's power doesn't need recharging and didn't share anything tonight, so it's mildly a moot point.

There's also the counter suspicion of mafiosas wanting to draw recharges to themselves, so it is kind of a "You're sus in either case for withholding power info/not-using-powers" which would make basically everyone sus at this point
 
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and I'm still confused what ur ability even does shell LOL maybe something will happen in the next few days that will need it...?
as far as i can tell from what shawo said to me, if anyone has used their 1-use ability, i can give that ability back for use the next night. but it can have no effect as that's what seemed to happen when i randomly used it on rosetti. probably because rosetti didn't need a recharge?
 
im sorry to interrupt this very important conversation, but reading kiko's post made me realize we probably need some term for the mafia. we could just say mafia/mafioso/etc. or

i would like to put up for suggestion the squirtle squad
Squirtle_Squad.png

there is no rationale for this it was just the first gang i thought of. there's probably more scenario-relevant gangs and im just drawing a blank
but this will let me meme on the mafia in an easier way if i think of jokes to make
 
the main one is the fact that you (to our knowledge, as you've made no claims/provided no info on it, which is totally ok cuz it's the early game after all) didn't use a power tonight, while simultaneously believing your power didn't need recharging.
This is correct, my reasoning being that I don't know if there's another ability that I should look out for while using my own (I only want to use when necessary/useful just to be safe)
 
I don't actually know all the abilities myself so I want to be as careful as possible!
 
There aren't too many scenarios I can think of where a power that can be used freely *wouldn't* be used freely, especially when it can possibly help shed some light on a, presently, very dark game.
While this is true, at the time when you used your ability to verify that i am not mafia you did not know about my recharge ability. why did you use up your precious 1 dose so early?
 
It sounds like some of these abilities are loosely based on traditional mafia roles, but with a shawo twist. The re-charging thing is definitely new and might be applied to more OP abilities so that they don't get overused.

While this is true, at the time when you used your ability to verify that i am not mafia you did not know about my recharge ability. why did you use up your precious 1 dose so early?

Wow, we got some big brains in here.
 
I just want to re-re quote myself here:

""There aren't too many scenarios I can think of where a power that can be used freely *wouldn't* be used freely, especially when it can possibly help shed some light on a, presently, very dark game. At the same time, I don't know what powers exist usually in mafia, so I could be wrong here."

Quoting myself here, this kind also goes for everyone who's power doesn't need recharging and didn't share anything tonight, so it's mildly a moot point.

There's also the counter suspicion of mafiosas wanting to draw recharges to themselves, so it is kind of a "You're sus in either case for withholding power info/not-using-powers" which would make basically everyone sus at this point"

TLDR, I don't think my overt suspicion in Emolga is really too warranted. the logic follows that I'd have to be suspicious of basically everyone else :p
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While this is true, at the time when you used your ability to verify that i am not mafia you did not know about my recharge ability. why did you use up your precious 1 dose so early?

To answer this, I'd be giving away what my ability does, which I very much do not want to do tonight (or possibly ever).
I can say that I am not the detective though, and I don't know if there is a detective.

Trust that I thought rationally about how I could make the best use of my ability given the messages here during day 1. I wasn't planning on using it until reviewing the messages here.

(but also, 10/10 sleuthing)

I'm in a very very tight spot right now is the main thing, and I wish I could share more but I can't. Everything you need to use to surmise an answer is already here
 
So I’ve finally read up on the conversation and now I’m highly sus on Emolga, I have been for awhile based on their manner of speaking but trying to draw recharge now too? And drawing needless attention to themselves while claiming their role is important is contradictory.
 
So I’ve finally read up on the conversation and now I’m highly sus on Emolga, I have been for awhile based on their manner of speaking but trying to draw recharge now too? And drawing needless attention to themselves while claiming their role is important is contradictory.
emolga was just correcting themselves that their ability could benefit from recharge when i asked, not that they were asking for one.
 
emolga was just correcting themselves that their ability could benefit from recharge when i asked, not that they were asking for one.
I mean it’s possible but right now I’m not so sure... it looks more like a backtrack when called out to me...

Just be careful around them, I think it’s highly likely they are mafia right now
 
So I’ve finally read up on the conversation and now I’m highly sus on Emolga, I have been for awhile based on their manner of speaking but trying to draw recharge now too? And drawing needless attention to themselves while claiming their role is important is contradictory.
Like shellbell said, I only corrected myself because before I said that it wouldn't benefit me, but I was wrong
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Kiko asked me how complex my role was, which I replied to and said if they wanted any other info I could go into slightly more detail, but didn't want to do too much because I don't want mafia to have an idea on what my role is, I'm fine with them knowing that I have something that is important (you might figure out why later)

Also, if you were sus of me prior, I'm curious as to why you didn't make any sort of ISO or read on me?
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It seems like you're trying to initiate a vote just to shorten the numbers, but I could be wrong tho
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I mean it’s possible but right now I’m not so sure... it looks more like a backtrack when called out to me...

Just be careful around them, I think it’s highly likely they are mafia right now
Can I ask who called me out before I corrected myself?
 
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Anyways, like others said I think that no elimination is best for today because we have no leads or info to support an elimination
 
Like shellbell said, I only corrected myself because before I said that it wouldn't benefit me, but I was wrong
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Kiko asked me how complex my role was, which I replied to and said if they wanted any other info I could go into slightly more detail, but didn't want to do too much because I don't want mafia to have an idea on what my role is, I'm fine with them knowing that I have something that is important (you might figure out why later)

Also, if you were sus of me prior, I'm curious as to why you didn't make any sort of ISO or read on me?
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Mainly because I don't know how to ISO anyone, I didn't even know what the term was until 1 minute ago. I've never played on a forum setting before where such a thing was even possible.

It seems like you're trying to initiate a vote just to shorten the numbers, but I could be wrong tho

I haven't called any vote on you, I'm just saying I'm sus of you right now. I have no hard evidence nor are we in a situation where we need to vote, just putting it out there.
Can I ask who called me out before I corrected myself?
This was in reference to this post https://www.belltreeforums.com/threads/baby-mafia-main-thread.592928/post-10003810

I am concerned that we went a whole night cycle and don't seem to have gained anything other than people finger pointing at each other, makes me worry about how powerful town's roles are this game.
 
Mainly because I don't know how to ISO anyone, I didn't even know what the term was until 1 minute ago. I've never played on a forum setting before where such a thing was even possible.
Oh, my apologies then



I haven't called any vote on you, I'm just saying I'm sus of you right now. I have no hard evidence nor are we in a situation where we need to vote, just putting it out there.
I never said you called on one, I just said you seemed like you were trying to get a vote started (without outright saying it, which makes me a bit sus of you)


Just an fyi I posted my correction before kiko posted that Unless if it's different for you for some reason, which isn't likely but possible
 
Answer to two questions.
@Mistreil
1. I'm not giving any role information upon death. (Mostly because it's hard to stagger identity info + role info between day night cycles.)

When someone dies I will be revealing their information the next cycle after they die. So if Kilzas identity (guess before then) will be outed at the end of the cycle and NOTHING else.

2. The only way for a power to be stopped is if someone gets roleblocked.
@kikotoot

My ability would still work if it targeted a dead player for example, as long as I wasn't ALSO roleblocked.

Sorry for the late replies. It's been a busy day.

Edit: Also I'm going to keep the schedule the same. Since... it seems the only person it affects is me. waking up at 9 am is hell on earth.

You're also free to submit night actions in advance if you're worried about time zones as accommodation, you can also change them at any point. And in the event that you die a horrible death, I just won't do your night action.

The last free piece of information I'm offering is that I believe this to be a "balanced game".
 
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Thanks shawo! Hope you're having as much fun as we are!

Karma do be throwing alot of susses (she was sus of Kiko too). To be fair I think if our special abilities reveal no information again, we are going to have to resort to sussing based on social deduction because we can't just keep voting no eliminate. I do think it's a bit early to be saying Emolga is highly likely Squirtle Squad though, unless you have other reasons why you're sussing on them @IonicKarma
 
Thanks shawo! Hope you're having as much fun as we are!

Karma do be throwing alot of susses (she was sus of Kiko too). To be fair I think if our special abilities reveal no information again, we are going to have to resort to sussing based on social deduction because we can't just keep voting no eliminate. I do think it's a bit early to be saying Emolga is highly likely Squirtle Squad though, unless you have other reasons why you're sussing on them @IonicKarma
You are right that I shouldn't be saying highly likely though as of right now, I still do think they are the most sus out of the group. I don't have any evidence to back anything up so its not like it amounts to much right now.

If there is 3 mafia, they've said enough strange stuff to have me pretty convinced they are part of the Squirtle Squad. If theres only 2, then im not sure.
 
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