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Mafia Call the Ships to Port: Game Thread - END GAME - TOWN VICTORY!
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still reading through page 15 lmfao
t!toads 2 ez 2 read tho
this post and the reply it's quoting from Ness make me quite confident in Ness being the mafia in the pair if there is one
yes Ness is objectively hyper aware of game state (things scum and observative town do)and highly reactive. yes he does feel a bit aggro in his replies and maybe less driven in posts. i mean i think that's all NAI on its own, regardless, given
a. game state
b. Ness has always had emotion in his style. emotions really not bad, most of the time Ness is able to actually have a productive type of emotion that i find difficult to fake as scum
honestly none of that is really noteworthy to me here. assume Ness is scum: emotion is something he's likely comfortable displaying and anyone can get annoyed at being scumread for a bad reason. (in fact that's the EASIEST thing for me to get mad at as scum)
what i do think is important is that Ness is trying to, throughout this interaction, pivot onto toads. honestly I've town read him for similar emotion in the past, but the glaringly odd difference is the attempt at shifting the bad lighting towards toads direction. Ness is like "ya i did X but you did Y and also sort of X? sooo?"
Yes I know. Literally everyone is saying the same thing now and I'm not going to consider posts like this of any value anymore. It's just repetition at this point and becoming a safety blanket for people to make seemingly pro-Town posts. I get it, it's not a good idea. I'm not even pushing for their lynch at this point. How many more people are going to chime in just to add "content" to their post ?
I will happily give it time Ryumia but I will not stop my side notes on the deadweights, as mentioned previously.
toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
Iloveyounwhat games were you in last? I know it's been a while but I'd still like to see them
Okay. That's good to hear at least. I'm still trying to get the hang of things at the moment.
Your idea isn't necessarily bad either. I mean... It's like you said. There could be a possibility that a mafia member could be hiding under the radar. So it is something to keep in mind, but not it's something I want to hold on too much.
wdym? i was replying to the comment you made this morning about ghost kid and giga. i have no intention of repeating what people have already said but at that point no one had commented on it and it bothered me so? anyway i'm happy to move on from this discussion to something a bit more productive! i'm going to work soon but i'll probably be on for a bit when i'm done
It would be games from 2014. Unfortunately the last one I was modkilled for cheating in lols.
toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
My problem with lynching an inactive is that it's a crapshoot.... there's not enough to information by definition to pick a good candidate in this situation.
I can't picture why ILOveYou would suggest this as mafia too unless she is on a team with extremely active people though otherwise she'd be putting at least one to two people in direct line of fire. Or bussing people on her team that will be deadweight anyway, but that seems less likely this early in the game. Seeing as how I highly doubt the entire mafia team is all active people, I highly doubt her motive is to steer convo like that
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Wait what? Please tell us how you cheated?
I can't picture why ILOveYou would suggest this as mafia too unless she is on a team with extremely active people though otherwise she'd be putting at least one to two people in direct line of fire. Or bussing people on her team that will be deadweight anyway, but that seems less likely this early in the game. Seeing as how I highly doubt the entire mafia team is all active people, I highly doubt her motive is to steer convo like that
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Wait what? Please tell us how you cheated?
amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
On page 9, thoughts:
- I get why fireninja would vote punchy, seeing as FN hasn?t played with punchy before, but the fact he kept his vote long after it was established punchy was trolling is mildly concerning
- I think the Iloveyou vs Dolby interactions are town v town, both seem very genuine to me, even though I disagree with ILY?s focus on inactives when day 1 has hardly started lol
Back to the garden, I?ll finish up reading later
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Thanks!
- I get why fireninja would vote punchy, seeing as FN hasn?t played with punchy before, but the fact he kept his vote long after it was established punchy was trolling is mildly concerning
- I think the Iloveyou vs Dolby interactions are town v town, both seem very genuine to me, even though I disagree with ILY?s focus on inactives when day 1 has hardly started lol
Back to the garden, I?ll finish up reading later
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Thanks!
I just went through his posts and he hasn't really posted anything substantial, and his punchy vote seems really random? FN seems v fishy but I also feel like that's too obvious as mafia, would he really vote somebody right away without explanation if he was trying to lay low?
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The whole "we aren't a team" was random to me as well, I don't see why FN would feel the need to say that as nobody had even considered the fact that they were a team. I agree with punchy, FN is either playing bad town or bad scum lol. Not quite sure who a jester is tho?
EpicGamer12
Senior Member
Just going to point out this post is just filler. The only thing you mentioned in this entire post that warrants a comment/opinion you have a neutral opinion on. While I'm not necessarily saying you're mafia (yet), this post adds nothing to the game and looks like you're just trying to look like you're contributing.
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Kammm is easily town in my eyes
Ok, some more generalized thoughts
Still think that Iloveyou is town based on her insistence to argue for policy lynch. I've already explained why it would be in her interest to adapt to the new meta in general if she's scum, given she legitimately believes policy lynching to be the best option
Punchy v FN: Not a team, but honestly kinda weak on both sides. If there's one scum and one town within there, I'd pick FN to be the town. He's refused to explain his vote, and so far has not even provided comments on other people (granted, it's 18 hours into the game).
I'm gonna drop my SR of Toads, given that he was intentionally trying to get a reaction from Punchy
Yeah, it's a poor play for Trundle to list me as town so early, but I can probably point out about 5 games in the past year where he hard TRed me D1 as town, so I'm really not taking that as sus. Why did I like his reads? I simply agreed with them (again exempting Punchy/Ghost in relation to each other)
I actually kinda found Ness's post kinda weird because of his alternate attack and defense of Punchy over vastly differing and honestly contradicting points. Moreover, I am also concerned over how he dismisses Fireninja in the whole thing, devoting about a paragraph to saying he's null for voting somebody for no reason.
But to elaborate on why I dislike Ness going after Punchy, it's reliant on these three quotes within Ness's post
Pretty much the opposite of what the previous point was. Of note is that Toads was intentionally aggrevating Punchy and even admitted to reaction testing him. I also feel that this was a normal reaction from Punchy
Not teams
FN/Punchy
Yep, just that
Tbh, I kinda don't like Dad's reads because he did the exact same thing that Ness did and didn't put up any conclusions on people, just general notes. Except in Ness's case it made sense for him to do it given the presentation. Dad presented his full reads
This is imcomplete, I have to get back to class, but still gonna post this anyway as I don't want to have to catch up on even what I was saying when I get back
I'm gonna have to read back on how Dad and Ness both play as scum. I don't think I've played against either in awhile
Still think that Iloveyou is town based on her insistence to argue for policy lynch. I've already explained why it would be in her interest to adapt to the new meta in general if she's scum, given she legitimately believes policy lynching to be the best option
Punchy v FN: Not a team, but honestly kinda weak on both sides. If there's one scum and one town within there, I'd pick FN to be the town. He's refused to explain his vote, and so far has not even provided comments on other people (granted, it's 18 hours into the game).
I'm gonna drop my SR of Toads, given that he was intentionally trying to get a reaction from Punchy
Yeah, it's a poor play for Trundle to list me as town so early, but I can probably point out about 5 games in the past year where he hard TRed me D1 as town, so I'm really not taking that as sus. Why did I like his reads? I simply agreed with them (again exempting Punchy/Ghost in relation to each other)
I actually kinda found Ness's post kinda weird because of his alternate attack and defense of Punchy over vastly differing and honestly contradicting points. Moreover, I am also concerned over how he dismisses Fireninja in the whole thing, devoting about a paragraph to saying he's null for voting somebody for no reason.
But to elaborate on why I dislike Ness going after Punchy, it's reliant on these three quotes within Ness's post
Frankly, I am actually inclined to agree with Punchy and take Punchy's side on this. Fireninja voted him for no reason. He cited Punchy's vote once, but it was retracted in the same post. Punchy definetely has a right to sus FN over this, and I think that if I was in Punchy's position, I'd do the exact same thing
Pretty much the opposite of what the previous point was. Of note is that Toads was intentionally aggrevating Punchy and even admitted to reaction testing him. I also feel that this was a normal reaction from Punchy
I don't like this given the bolded portion. Anyhow, I def tl Toads after that exchange
Not teams
FN/Punchy
Yep, just that
I don't really like that Panda is making bullet points, or really agree with her (particularly that Ness v Toads is town v town), however, the fact that Panda is actually making opinions (in comparison to when she was scum last game) does make me slightly townlean her
Tbh, I kinda don't like Dad's reads because he did the exact same thing that Ness did and didn't put up any conclusions on people, just general notes. Except in Ness's case it made sense for him to do it given the presentation. Dad presented his full reads
This is imcomplete, I have to get back to class, but still gonna post this anyway as I don't want to have to catch up on even what I was saying when I get back
I'm gonna have to read back on how Dad and Ness both play as scum. I don't think I've played against either in awhile
Is FireNinja like the number one candidate to go after though?
Oh... Okay then. Appreciate your feedback on that.
With the ideology of the RQS between Dolby and iLoveYou... I'm not sure of what to think of it if I had to be honest. Perhaps it was fabricated or something? It's something I kept in mind while the game was going, but not something I want to hold down so much. The same goes with the whole Ness and Toad's thing that happened too. Mafia is a game of manipulation after all. I think it's just better to be safe than sorry I suppose.
If others have problems with others taking neutral stances then those people are going to have to try harder to convinces other who do take them not to do so. I mean... Impressions and opinions are hard to change sometimes.
toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
do you really think me and ness would/could fabricate all of that?
amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
OK so I have taken a break from Extreme Makeover: Gardening Edition and have been able to catch up on the thread entirely. Here are my thoughts:
ILoveYou, we get the point you’re making about inactives, stop repeating it please because at this point it’s a moot issue and as you said, can allow people to latch on and appear townie. We get it, let’s move on
Glow is usually a very perceptive player and she’s already SR’d Dad over his monolithic reads (which I did read through so don’t hate me Dad ), and I’ve seen one other player say they didn’t like dad’s reads (forget who it is atm). I found myself agreeing with a good number of Dad’s observations, but I also do agree that his reads are largely just reports rather than actual reads. And his Ness v. Toads takeaway is wrong IMO as I’ll explain below
Ness vs. Toads was frivolous af and I actually found myself siding with Ness more in that exchange. Toads seemed to pick on really minute things and seemed like he just wanted to make Ness look bad. I was a bit surprised Ness thought he could be DQ’d, and agree that that coulda been a lowkey AtE. HAVING SAID THAT, Ness’s Punchy read is pretty self-contradictory, and I agree with Dolby that Punchy’s reaction makes perfect sense. But just looking at Ness v. Toads in a vacuum, I think Ness was winning the argument. But as I like to say…play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Slight tl on Ness and null on Toads rn
I’d be down for a fireninja lynch, as he’s done the most demonstrably scummy thing so far this game. But I also feel like it’s just way too blatant for scum!ninja to do. The one time I was scum with fireninja, he really was trying to fly under the radar and NOT commit to positions.
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oh and Kammm oozes town to me, I really liked her reaction to being pushed to post more
ILoveYou, we get the point you’re making about inactives, stop repeating it please because at this point it’s a moot issue and as you said, can allow people to latch on and appear townie. We get it, let’s move on
Glow is usually a very perceptive player and she’s already SR’d Dad over his monolithic reads (which I did read through so don’t hate me Dad
), and I’ve seen one other player say they didn’t like dad’s reads (forget who it is atm). I found myself agreeing with a good number of Dad’s observations, but I also do agree that his reads are largely just reports rather than actual reads. And his Ness v. Toads takeaway is wrong IMO as I’ll explain belowNess vs. Toads was frivolous af and I actually found myself siding with Ness more in that exchange. Toads seemed to pick on really minute things and seemed like he just wanted to make Ness look bad. I was a bit surprised Ness thought he could be DQ’d, and agree that that coulda been a lowkey AtE. HAVING SAID THAT, Ness’s Punchy read is pretty self-contradictory, and I agree with Dolby that Punchy’s reaction makes perfect sense. But just looking at Ness v. Toads in a vacuum, I think Ness was winning the argument. But as I like to say…play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Slight tl on Ness and null on Toads rn
I’d be down for a fireninja lynch, as he’s done the most demonstrably scummy thing so far this game. But I also feel like it’s just way too blatant for scum!ninja to do. The one time I was scum with fireninja, he really was trying to fly under the radar and NOT commit to positions.
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oh and Kammm oozes town to me, I really liked her reaction to being pushed to post more
Resuming
I'd really like Mog to provide an actual read on Punchy besides that he's null (at least leaning to one way or the other). Idk if it's just me, but all of her posts are kinda about him, and a one way or the other from her particularly would really help me should one of Punchy or FN die or get lynched. Main reason that I'm calling this post out is because the opening paragraph feels forced, but besides that I don't really have an opinion on Mog.
Ryumia has made more than a few high-volume posts, but the content has honestly been meh at best. There isn't any scumhunting going on in there, just perpetuating the policy lynch debate. I don't SR her for it, but I would much prefer scumhunting to that
@Glow, will you please tell me why you thought that me/Antonio weren't compatible
There has been so much that I've felt the need to call out that I'm just going to think of things with my strongest TRs and SRs, which would be ILoveYou and FN respectively. Though I'm kinda feeling now that FN not being able to explain himself yesterday is clouding my perception on him
Relatively Confident (ie, at least 75/25 on them)
ILoveYou
Toads
Punchy (purely on the basis that I don't FN)
I'd really like Mog to provide an actual read on Punchy besides that he's null (at least leaning to one way or the other). Idk if it's just me, but all of her posts are kinda about him, and a one way or the other from her particularly would really help me should one of Punchy or FN die or get lynched. Main reason that I'm calling this post out is because the opening paragraph feels forced, but besides that I don't really have an opinion on Mog.
Ryumia has made more than a few high-volume posts, but the content has honestly been meh at best. There isn't any scumhunting going on in there, just perpetuating the policy lynch debate. I don't SR her for it, but I would much prefer scumhunting to that
What do you mean you get why he did it. At best, it was a policy vote. He refused to justify it, and his only counter so far has been "he voted first"
@Glow, will you please tell me why you thought that me/Antonio weren't compatible
There has been so much that I've felt the need to call out that I'm just going to think of things with my strongest TRs and SRs, which would be ILoveYou and FN respectively. Though I'm kinda feeling now that FN not being able to explain himself yesterday is clouding my perception on him
Relatively Confident (ie, at least 75/25 on them)
ILoveYou
Toads
Punchy (purely on the basis that I don't FN)
EpicGamer12
Senior Member
Honestly pretty surprised I'm not townread by Dolby yet
