Mafia CHATBOT MAFIA...Chapter 5: The Glitch... ENDGAME?
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Damniel
Openly Wolfing
Since EoD, my reads have changed a bit.
I think I have a greater understanding of Dolby's thought process on this game. D1 tried to work with him on reads and possibly giving him the item, but his consistent desire to vote me out made me feel he wasn't looking to work with me. I also felt his reads were rather weak. That has since changed however, so I'm much more okay with Dolby atm. I am not completely sold on him being town, but compared to everyone else, I feel better on him now.
Betsy has fallen from being a townread for me. For reasons stated before which I will not state again, I was inclined to believe Betsy was just town. However, looking at her behavior during EoD makes me feel uneasy. I feel her attitude towards not wanting the item as to not put a target on her back, but still begging to be protected (despite not having that target) lacked clear town motivation. It sorta feels like she wanted a protect on her so the kill would be easier to make. I also don't like how adamant she was on giving Dolby the item towards the end. It felt at that point that she wanted Dolby to have the item more than he wanted it. Kinda feels pocket-y. However, her currently reasoning for her getting the item today at least makes sense from her perspective, so I'm okay with that logic. Will need to think about this more.
Kiko I was suspicious off because of their confidence that there were two mafia. The confidence felt like they made more information on the setup than we do (TMI). If there are two mafia, this point still stands. However, with there having been a vig in this game, I'm inclined to believe there's just one mafia, which obviously goes against my suspicion towards Kiko. Posts and behavior-wise, I also wasn't a fan of their EoD tbh. It feels as though they've just been saying and doing things to get on Dolby's good side (which has obviously been working). I think Dolby's read on Kiko is still biased for this reason. Overall though, I don't think Kiko is a lone wolf. So, under my current assumption that there's only one mafia, I think it's less likely them. If there are two mafia, I think Kiko is likely one of them.
Looking into Frosty's EoD, their posts were kinda just meh. I think tonally I was reading them as innocent new player that's lost, but I'm sensing a lack of solviness. Tbh, when I read their posts I still have not been put off on anything in particular. They just feel okay but I'll have to look more into them to try to see if there's any TMI there. I still wanna TR them but I think they need to step up more for me to really think that.
I think I have a greater understanding of Dolby's thought process on this game. D1 tried to work with him on reads and possibly giving him the item, but his consistent desire to vote me out made me feel he wasn't looking to work with me. I also felt his reads were rather weak. That has since changed however, so I'm much more okay with Dolby atm. I am not completely sold on him being town, but compared to everyone else, I feel better on him now.
Betsy has fallen from being a townread for me. For reasons stated before which I will not state again, I was inclined to believe Betsy was just town. However, looking at her behavior during EoD makes me feel uneasy. I feel her attitude towards not wanting the item as to not put a target on her back, but still begging to be protected (despite not having that target) lacked clear town motivation. It sorta feels like she wanted a protect on her so the kill would be easier to make. I also don't like how adamant she was on giving Dolby the item towards the end. It felt at that point that she wanted Dolby to have the item more than he wanted it. Kinda feels pocket-y. However, her currently reasoning for her getting the item today at least makes sense from her perspective, so I'm okay with that logic. Will need to think about this more.
Kiko I was suspicious off because of their confidence that there were two mafia. The confidence felt like they made more information on the setup than we do (TMI). If there are two mafia, this point still stands. However, with there having been a vig in this game, I'm inclined to believe there's just one mafia, which obviously goes against my suspicion towards Kiko. Posts and behavior-wise, I also wasn't a fan of their EoD tbh. It feels as though they've just been saying and doing things to get on Dolby's good side (which has obviously been working). I think Dolby's read on Kiko is still biased for this reason. Overall though, I don't think Kiko is a lone wolf. So, under my current assumption that there's only one mafia, I think it's less likely them. If there are two mafia, I think Kiko is likely one of them.
Looking into Frosty's EoD, their posts were kinda just meh. I think tonally I was reading them as innocent new player that's lost, but I'm sensing a lack of solviness. Tbh, when I read their posts I still have not been put off on anything in particular. They just feel okay but I'll have to look more into them to try to see if there's any TMI there. I still wanna TR them but I think they need to step up more for me to really think that.
BetsySundrop
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I'll have to think on it for a bit. I can be sort of slow sometimes to catch on (no jokes, dan!), but I'll figure it out eventually...
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
that's another point against Kiko I forgot to mention. yeah I've been getting fishing vibes
BetsySundrop
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Terribly sorry about that, was not my intention.
I'm sorry, I don't quite follow the last sentence.
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
it felt like you just wanted the protect so others would not be
y'all need to stop taking my gameplay and words/tone at face value fr
ngl you being not curious whatsoever has me even more sus
BetsySundrop
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Hey, dolby ran a great campaign! I'm hoping to run an even better campaign today.
vote betsy in BLUE!!!
(And don't mix up the colors...)
ngl my general reads on everyone haven't changed much since day 1, but idk if that's just cuz I'm bad
the main dif is me side-eyeing dolby a bit but I lirerally can't just maf-read everyone
or meeee!
Hopefully y'all will see why that's best by voting time
will let on more info as needed but, truly, I need ppl to think on me
the main dif is me side-eyeing dolby a bit but I lirerally can't just maf-read everyone
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sorry but I'd honestly rather just keep going dolby
or meeee!
Hopefully y'all will see why that's best by voting time
will let on more info as needed but, truly, I need ppl to think on me
BetsySundrop
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Oh, no not at all. I just don't like croaking d1, and I'd like to not croak tonight, lol.
I'm ready to receive a stern talking-to by viewers and dead folks once I'm off 
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outside of you being you, you've given no reason to be a target, and no one's put a target on you being like "betsy's 100% town" with everyone agreeing
BetsySundrop
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you've given us nothing though 
and you suddenly having an item isn't good for the townies gameplay wise if you're a townie I don't think. I can't explicitly say why but like, all the clues are there.
Literally the best outcome for townies tonight (not even kidding, especially given recent events) is everyone voting to keep me, giving me a huge town read, and the item
If I don't die, I'm the mafia
idk if that's game-ending for townies though tbh
2nd best outcome is too revealing
gonna wait for dolby and frosty to get back now. some's gotta be picking up what I'm putting down
and you suddenly having an item isn't good for the townies gameplay wise if you're a townie I don't think. I can't explicitly say why but like, all the clues are there.
Literally the best outcome for townies tonight (not even kidding, especially given recent events) is everyone voting to keep me, giving me a huge town read, and the item
If I don't die, I'm the mafia
idk if that's game-ending for townies though tbh
2nd best outcome is too revealing
gonna wait for dolby and frosty to get back now. some's gotta be picking up what I'm putting down
BetsySundrop
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you've given us nothing though
and you suddenly having an item isn't good for the townies gameplay wise if you're a townie I don't think.
Au contraire, I've think given plenty of reads, thoughts, etc.
And whaddya mean, suddenly? I expect to run a good campaign and earn the item.
It's possible we play very differently, ut similar to dan I mean, you haven't done anything to stick your neck out for the townies. Done nothing to generate heat from mafia or townies.
tessa generated LOTS of heat from the mafia for being everyone's firm town read and appearing to possibly have a power, dolby generated a decent bit by alluding to a role and then winning an item (which has since been used up), I've generated some town heat (mostly intentionally, don't think I'll play this way again though) by doing things like role fishing and all that,
you and dan have been very very plain,
but also, I haven't been catching myself up on all the "who's reading who in what ways for what reasons" thing, so maybe there'll be some things there, but where are the mind games, where are the lines to read between. Those are necessary to provide for townies to make and coordinate moves
tessa generated LOTS of heat from the mafia for being everyone's firm town read and appearing to possibly have a power, dolby generated a decent bit by alluding to a role and then winning an item (which has since been used up), I've generated some town heat (mostly intentionally, don't think I'll play this way again though) by doing things like role fishing and all that,
you and dan have been very very plain,
but also, I haven't been catching myself up on all the "who's reading who in what ways for what reasons" thing, so maybe there'll be some things there, but where are the mind games, where are the lines to read between. Those are necessary to provide for townies to make and coordinate moves
BetsySundrop
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Yeah, no offense to tessa (sorry tessa!), but I don't think it's a good idea for strong prs to generate heat like that. If she hadn't, she might not have been nk.
As part of my campaign for the item, I do plan to do a full summary of my tessa reads, and how they evolved d1. I will type it up and post it a bit later when I get home. Now- on to the farmer's market!
Protect betsy.
Protect town.
Vote betsy in blue!
If I may ask, what's your read on me so far for today? don't need to be super detailed, just a quick pop before heading out
let us know what you grab! ngl I should've planned to go to my farmer's market too
FrostyAlmonds
Senior Member
And you don't think it's within the realm of possibility that mafia targeted Tessa to frame me?
Tessa was VERY confident going at EoD AND Night that you were mafia, and was going toe xplain more today. That puts so much more of a pin on you, sounds like it could have been a fear kill if you were mafia, and you bringing up this 'it was inexperience so it's Frosty' seems like a pretty convenient cover up.
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Betsy, you do bring up a good point about not relying on Dolby all game with the item.
FrostyAlmonds
Senior Member
I'm sorry Kiko. I realized you did account for that it was to frame me I clearly need to learn how to read and maybe wake up a bit before replying to the thread. 
Okay, I'm still trying to figure out how to do isos properly, the returns are just out of order and using keywords doesn't help.
@BetsySundrop Dan said you didn't want the power yesterday? I'm trying to find where you said it sbfjsbf, it sounds vaguely familiar but I really only remember Tessa straight up not wanting it (and now it's pretty clear why). Is there a reason you want the power today after not wanting it yesterday? Are you as confident as Dolby that you can provide results with it?
I'm not ready to vote you blue over Dolby yet, but I would like to hear your campaign since it will also help me establish you as town.
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Okay, I'm still trying to figure out how to do isos properly, the returns are just out of order and using keywords doesn't help.
@BetsySundrop Dan said you didn't want the power yesterday? I'm trying to find where you said it sbfjsbf, it sounds vaguely familiar but I really only remember Tessa straight up not wanting it (and now it's pretty clear why). Is there a reason you want the power today after not wanting it yesterday? Are you as confident as Dolby that you can provide results with it?
I'm not ready to vote you blue over Dolby yet, but I would like to hear your campaign since it will also help me establish you as town.
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It's against me, but this is a fantastic read.
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Now I'm considering if you thought about that when you were deciding who to kill
Your read makes you either more maf or more town for me, def less neutral, but am not sure in which direction yet
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Betsy and I also had a back-and-forth about the sussness of them not wanting the item during day1 (not sure which page but maybe like the second 24hrs of day 1)
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Can I ask you outright if you have a power?
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If the mafia was worried that tessa was gonna detectivate me and clear my name, that could also be a thing. no one else here is really drawing that much town heat so it's possible they want me to stay and to stay undetectivated
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