I *really* need to see some of dolby up in here before I go ham with part 1: The questioning and part 2: Blowing up my own game for the townies
Hopefully we don't get to part 2
some of those were pre-typed from last night so will probably sound a little disjointed, but part 2 is literally just for if I get backed into a corner on this vote, which I don't think I'm done for with yet
Generally responding to the me and betsy trusting each other now: you guys, do you *seriously* still not see how betsy's *entire* gameplay is consistent with the power that she's alluding to having??? Is no one else mind-melding her on that??? If I was mafia, once I gleaned someone's power (and a potentially useful one at that), would I verify their claims and try to work with them? or play dumb and try to keep the town from trusting them seeing as they had, at that point in time, a poor town-read and I could maybe turn the vote against her, removing that power from the game. I could have so easily thought: "I get it, betsy's an imminent threat, gotta keep people with being sus of her and try to get her voted off" vs doing the complete opposite.
That might sound inconsistent with some of what I was saying after the mindmeld, but ask yourself, what is the EFFECT of me saying those things and treating betsy and her power in that way after we decided I would get the item: the EFFECT of those words and me second guessing her towniness and making her power seem weak is: reducing her apparent threat to the mafia and the liklihood the mafia will kill her off as she would be unprotected.
And Dan, when I say I can't see substance in your game, I mean that I can't see any of ^THAT in your posts basically anywhere. All you've done is play mafia, but you haven't given anything for the town to work with. As far as been's shown, your behaviour can be linked to ZERO goals as a powered townie (which, I guess we all have powers now, so only furthers the sus of that). It's not enough to read people, you need to be gaming for the townies a bit, and I see none of that when going over your posts. I don't see any of this really with frosty, truthfully you two have been playing relatively similar games.
The only reason I can see for Dan (someone who's way too familiar with mafia) to have played this way is if he had some GODLY f3 power or something, but this game is already a tricky one to balance as he's pointed out, so I doubt that. In the case that his power just wouldn't be useful at all, why has he refused to attempt to take heat away from people like tessa so the mafia might target him instead? There's nothing town-leaning about your gameplay.
Ok I guess Imma just do a soft-launch of part 1 now seeing as I already got into things
apologies for the CAPITALIZATION and *, they're there to add gravitas, I'm by no means upset or anything dw
Ugh ok so I'm doing this all on mobile and don't want to risk losing what I've typed when leaving the page to find things to link. If needed, I'll add a post with all the links to things
possible scenario: Dan and frosty
Dan defended frosty right out of the gate with his read, and then as frosty started to take heat, proceeded to shy away a bit from tying himself to frosty during day 1. Now that frosty's genuinely at risk, he and frosty are sharing the same target and pushing to get them out instead.
Also, Dan, you're a smart player. Just like Betsy, you should be thinking about who you want in f3. Frosty has never alluded to a power, you have never alluded to or done anything really gameplay wise about a power, and dolby appears to have a power only useful when he has items?? that can sometimes just do nothing?? That leaves me and betsy. I have a hard time believing you haven't caught on to what either of us have, especially in betsy's case. I'm sorry but I'm just not buying your gameplay if you're a townie, I have zero idea what your goals as a powered townie are, which is a very individualistic way to play the game. I'm blind right now to how you or your gameplay has been or can be useful to the town
There are some of my first questions for you: can you clue us in on what goals you have, if any, as a townie? why you have not tried to take the target off the powerful townies in the case your power is relatively weaker? What f3 are you picturing being best for the townies and why? (frosty's a wild card in f3 and dolby's power might be outright useless. Is that what you think is best for the townies? I don't buy it. You're smarter than that) and whatever else in there I'm missing, I'm sorry, my brain is a jumble. TL
R, outside of giving reads and participating in mafia, how have you been gaming for the townies' sake???
Now there's dolby and dan
I already gave one tinfoil hat theory on this (please go read), but I'd like to add on to it a bit
Early in the game, when dolby was saying he doesn't think he'll get killed, he asked dan in particular to read between the lines. Ignoring their past experiences together, What's one scenario where Dolby would know he wouldn't be killed and would want Dan to read into that? If dolby was an informed mafia and he knew dan was the uninformed mafia, and wanted to clue dan in that he was the other mafia he should be working with. As in my last post about them, there's all the stuff about dolby using the item on dan (effectively but also to no effect?) and more and more vehemently defending dan as time goes on with little to no substance behind it, just "trust me bro" like with the item day 1.
The other scenario here is: Dolby saw that dan was tanner or something that night he used the power but wasn't allowed to say that. Him calling dan a townie and dan being like "idk why you think that" could be him stopping dan from being killed and dan not being happy with that, BUT I think it's more likely they're just partners and, since dolby is the one more widely trusted, dolby was the one playing "good maf friend" trying to get us to trust his partner, and dan playing the villain role being like "why, I don't see how you think that", to give them a bit of distance.
I'm sorry, but I need more from all three of you (Dan, Dolby, Frosty).
If you need more reason to enlighten us for the reasons behind you're gameplay, I'll enter part two, and make this game even more democratic than it already is
Something to note:
In this post, I am literally coming after the 3 people who will determine if I survive or die to today's vote. If I was mafia, would this be the play? or would I be focused on self-preservation, getting on the good side of the majority. Instead, I'm desperately trying to get to the bottom of who's a townie. You tell me how these actions read.
If all this fails, I have a last ace to play in my vying for your trust, and seeing as it's something that would affect the townie's gameplay pre-vote, I'll let you know from now what it is: a role reveal
I have a gif to add now
Please don't think I'm being hard on you.
