Mafia CHATBOT MAFIA...Chapter 5: The Glitch... ENDGAME?

[FrostyAlmonds]

Your entire post there feels very townie to me. I am very sorry if my behaviour today feels at all like it's personal or anything like that. I'm literally just trying to survive the vote today, and if possible, prevent a miselim. I was unsure who I'd vote out, betsy yesterday was leaning you, and you and dan were leaning me. You have to see how being in that position would force me to get a bit more aggressive to get information and justify my position in the game.

And I'm sorry I have been on your back pretty much all of day 2. I'm sorry you just really look like maf to me. But I totally get your angle, all of us are trying to survive, maf included. This is seriously so hard.

Mafia is mean to friendships. No hard feelings no matter what happens. But seriously, I'm taking none of it personally, no worries, and I hope you know I'm not personally attacking you either. It's a game in the end.

 

[BetsySundrop]

The equivalent of a "trust me bro", after that level (my post) of questioning and distrust is more of a punchline than productive ngl.

No elaboration on what you read about me from that post either even

Right?!

 

[kikotoot]

I still don't see the Dan Dolby pair. I dunno what to say beyond that. I still don't see the 2 maf pair period.



I don't see how it's any different than shifting suspicion. You only focusing on this being a 2 mafia game is to cast suspicion on each other and make F3 less black and white imo. Which would benefit a mafia kiko greatly. If you want to give more reasons why we are all maf separately that could help.

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Yourself! Kiko was letting you have it. This is why I'm confused about you right now. Kiko was letting you have it, and because of that, you said 'Kiko, you're town, I want you to have the item'. Why didn't you take it? I get not waiting for me if you didn't think I would give you the vote, but I thought I was being pretty clear that I was understanding your side.

The reason I voted Dolby is because I believe he is town. I believe Kiko is mafia. You pretty much forced my hand into a Dolby vote and putting everything on him.

You're literally so town I hope at least. I think two things happened with me: I'm mentally fixed on games with 2 mafia, and my brain for some reason enjoys stories where I can give people dynamics to play off one another with. My strength isn't reading individuals (again, rip mistreil and rosie). I also did do most of my post crafting very late last night

but I also don't mean this to be a backstep, more just, I understand where you're coming from and can see you as a townie having these stances

 

[FrostyAlmonds]

Also, this is where I'm struggling to keep up. If anyone is asking me something and I'm not replying. Please ping me towards it. I'm not trying to intentionally skip any posts.

~Message from human Frosty

 

[BetsySundrop]

And I'm sorry I have been on your back pretty much all of day 2. I'm sorry you just really look like maf to me. But I totally get your angle, all of us are trying to survive, maf included. This is seriously so hard.

Mafia is mean to friendships. No hard feelings no matter what happens. But seriously, I'm taking none of it personally, no worries, and I hope you know I'm not personally attacking you either. It's a game in the end.

same!

Maf gets intense, but win or lose it's always, always exciting!!

 

[FrostyAlmonds]

You're literally so town I hope at least. I think two things happened with me: I'm mentally fixed on games with 2 mafia, and my brain for some reason enjoys stories where I can give people dynamics to play off one another with. My strength isn't reading individuals (again, rip mistreil and rosie). I also did do most of my post crafting very late last night

but I also don't mean this to be a backstep, more just, I understand where you're coming from and can see you as a townie having these stances

No, that's totally fair. If the whole possibility of this ending night 1 wasn't a thing, I would have totally been more open to it being a 2 maf game. I just really don't think a 7 player game could end that early. And I respect the wanting to make stories out of it (I am curious about the stuff you were writing yesterday but this isn't the time or place to ask haha).


I'm here to try and clear any doubts on myself because I am indeed a townie and would love for us to win.

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same!

Maf gets intense, but win or lose it's always, always exciting!!

For real though. I just appreciate that even though we are at each others throats, we're still like, nooo I'm sorry for sussing you. I feel like we may be too soft.

 

[Damniel]

Right?!

i mean, is “trust me bro” not the crux of the argument for all of our claims

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it seems we each believe we have left the necessary clues to our powers

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Mafia is mean to friendships. No hard feelings no matter what happens. But seriously, I'm taking none of it personally, no worries, and I hope you know I'm not personally attacking you either. It's a game in the end.

this is an important reminder. glad there’s no personal beef here

 

[kikotoot]

Kiko!!!!

@kikotoot yes!!!!! Part 2!!!

I am just done with part 1, now is part 2, and it is exactly what I was referring to as being useful in f3.

I'll leave it up to you, but yeah I could see a dan/frosty team.

Or in wild crazy tinfoil land, a dolby godfather with a vest!

Depending on your aspects of part 2. There may be a betsy part 2!!!

I want to do part 2 so badly (love good tv and some drama), but just want dolby to come in here before then I think. If I do part 2, I really hope you're as townie as I think you are and on the same page with me

 

[BetsySundrop]

2: Blowing up my own game for the townies

Hopefully we don't get to part 2

Part 2!!! And you keep the item!! Maybe it will protect you. And make it a harder decision for maf. You would be better being a safe guaranteed town for f3.

If I was mafia, once I gleaned someone's power (and a potentially useful one at that), would I verify their claims and try to work with them? or play dumb and try to keep the town from trusting them seeing as they had, at that point in time, a poor town-read and I could maybe turn the vote against her, removing that power from the game.

GODLY f3 power or something, but this game is already a tricky one to balance as he's pointed out, so I doubt that.

If it's a GOD like power, it's more like GODfather....

If you need more reason to enlighten us for the reasons behind you're gameplay, I'll enter part two, and make this game even more democratic than it already is

Part 2! This dog likes democracy. And betsy part 2 immediately after a kiko part 2.

If all this fails, I have a last ace to play in my vying for your trust, and seeing as it's something that would affect the townie's gameplay pre-vote, I'll let you know from now what it is: a role reveal

, i'm genuinely not sure yet which of the three of you I'd vote to elim, whether there's 1 or 2 mafia, choosing 1 person from 3 has a chance of a miselim

And this is what we need the time today to discuss!!! Not whether they're voting betsy or kiko!!!

Maf will be forced to develop a new strategy. And we have a better chance of seeing it if they're down to 3.

Yourself! Kiko was letting you have it. This is why I'm confused about you right now.

But there's reasons kiko needs to have it. But if you aren't maf and actually have an advatage I think you might have, you will understand.

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I want to do part 2 so badly (love good tv and some drama), but just want dolby to come in here before then I think. If I do part 2, I really hope you're as townie as I think you are and on the same page with me

Oh, trust me! We will be not only on the same page, but featured on the same show!!!

Then there will be 3 mysteries to untangle instead of 5.

 

[kikotoot]

And betsy part 2 immediately after a kiko part 2.

If betsy part 2 is "haha I'm the mafia with 2 snipers left over " I'm gonna cry so hard

 

[BetsySundrop]

Don't wait for dolby. He might leave it last minute in order to make us wait.

If I'm being stupid town, I deserve to be shot. Pfft.

But if you are really worried, I'll go first!

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If betsy part 2 is "haha I'm the mafia with 2 snipers left over " I'm gonna cry so hard

Same!!!

Want betsy part 2 first?

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And if you kill me, I deserve it and will haunt you from the graveyard!

 

[kikotoot]

Ngl part of my plan was omitting the idea of a betsy part 2 so maybe I'll send my giant blurb and then we mind meld and then betsy part 2?

 

[BetsySundrop]

Ngl part of my plan was omitting the idea of a betsy part 2 so maybe I'll send my giant blurb and then we mind meld and then betsy part 2?

Yes!

 

[kikotoot]

Ok I am so ready for this
was waiting for this moment
but also I feel like this could singlehandedly lose townies the game if we read each other wrong it can only go one way or the other

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Are you ok with me giving dolby till 4:30 ish just in case either of us are missing something glaring? otherwise I'm ready to lay it all on the table

 

[BetsySundrop]

Ok I am so ready for this
was waiting for this moment
but also I feel like this could singlehandedly lose townies the game if we read each other wrong it can only go one way or the other

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Are you ok with me giving dolby till 4:30 ish just in case either of us are missing something glaring? otherwise I'm ready to lay it all on the table

If you're being honest, this is my favorite maf game moment so far.

If you're not, it's not the worst I've done...

I think I'd like to do it now, as with 2 of us, only one can be sniped.

 

[FrostyAlmonds]

Kiko can I see the Kiko Betsy team scenario?

Betsy you really aren't playing consistent when you said you don't 100% town read Kiko. I swear I'm missing something here.

But there's reasons kiko needs to have it. But if you aren't maf and actually have an advatage I think you might have, you will understand.

Okay, this is where I admit I still don't really know what Kiko's power (hint) is. I couldn't find it last night, which is literally why I was rereading and started to think more heavily about the item vote switch and I started fixating on that.

I'm sorry but can one of you quote me where Kiko's power was first talked about it? The TL;DR I got was just it's a day 3 power like yours.

 

[Dolby]

Hello again

The main thing that I've taken in from reads wise since I'm left is Frosty has been pretty towny recently

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So there was a request to explain my gameplay. Tbh I think it's simple. I think that it's the best play in this setup for every single item to go to me. On day one I thought that Dan was the most likely mafia particularly since I felt that some of his reads didn't feel natural. Due to the item use during N1 I think that it is far less likely that he is mafia than before. Unfortunately I'm having a hard time sorting between Betsy Frosty and Kiko to find who is the mafia there

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I know I said yesterday that Frosty might have a bad point towards her for not alluding to a role, but she was pretty resistant towards Kiko which I do think is consistent with having a power. Also at F3 we are all full on claiming everything if it gets to that point. I might be putting Frosty a bit above both Kiko and Betsy rn here actually, purely because I feel that her reads and confidence have gotten stronger as the game has gone on, which I think aligns well with a first time player being town

 

[kikotoot]

oof I took to long reviewing things and typing, will respond to stuffs here first:

I'm sorry but can one of you quote me where Kiko's power was first talked about it? The TL;DR I got was just it's a day 3 power like yours.

It's not a day 3 power. it's been alluded to in terms of how I've been playing the game. When I do kiko part 2 shortly, it should all make sense

Unfortunately I'm having a hard time sorting between Betsy Frosty and Kiko to find who is the mafia there

I sincerely hope that you're not being wholly honest with us, cuz I will very shortly be hinging the game on betsy's towniness Do you have any knowledge that can justify some of my stances on Dan's gameplay? For someone who intiated the whole read between the lines thing, I'm still very suspect of you missing connecting the dots on betsy

 

[Dolby]

re: me/Dan theory

Look I'm gonna be blunt, I think if Raven didn't exist the wagons would have been me/Dan yesterday, me pushing Dan the way that I did as maf/maf especially at the times with no alternatives having been presented besides Raven who could have come back easily is just a losing proposition and not something that I do.

Not that I wouldn't push a teammate as mafia, I would, but I would never on day one push a teammate in that manner. Has to much of a possibility to lead to them going out on d1

 

[BetsySundrop]

Part 2 kiko!

Part 2!!!