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daniel is arsonist.

what do you think tom

Tom's Mini-list:
  • Oath2order
  • Minties
  • Trojan
  • Ayaya
  • Dolby
  • Panda
  • Trundle
  • White Claw
  • m3ow
  • Call Me Daniel
  • JellofishXD
  • Lucanosa
  • Mother of Llamas

That's my thoughts so far. Too many middle of the road names. Some green purely because they got doused, one because of a theory.
 
Probably either panda/ayaya or both, maybe white claw for not saying a single thing yet still online.

Can you read the thread and at least give a supported opinion?

Thanks

What did you contribute Danny. Oh wait never mind you helped lynch the vigilante on day 1 even though we could've actually tried to find someone suspicious.

Thanks

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White claw is also pretty sus because.... Well, not doing anything, like has this person even posted.
 
Tom's Mini-list:
  • Oath2order
  • Minties
  • Trojan
  • Ayaya
  • Dolby
  • Panda
  • Trundle
  • White Claw
  • m3ow
  • Call Me Daniel
  • JellofishXD
  • Lucanosa
  • Mother of Llamas

That's my thoughts so far. Too many middle of the road names. Some green purely because they got doused, one because of a theory.
You missed Reyy
 
What did you contribute Danny. Oh wait never mind you helped lynch the vigilante on day 1 even though we could've actually tried to find someone suspicious.

Thanks

The same blame can be placed on the complicit. Danny v Starry was pretty much the only thing going on Day 1, nonvoters and Trundle's vote on m3ow ignored.

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You missed Reyy

Still middle of the road.
 
Again, typing this on phone so can't link to quotes. This way is easier for me, unfortunately. It'll take some time replying so if I haven't said anything, I'm typing up replies.

Kit said:
What I noticed most about what Daniel did was that he didn't back out of his lynch lead, he kept his feet firm in the sand and proceeded despite the backlash. If he was scum this would be a very, very bad move. Either he's incredibly clever scum/has Tom as a teammate instructing his every move, which I guess you could try and back up a theory on with Tom's post defending him
If I recall correctly, he started the bandwagon before Tom was in the game and Haydenn was banned. He seemed to me the type to start an an easy mislynch. I saw it as him trying to get anyone lynched , and the other players seemed either not suspicious enough or too experienced for him to pin on. That left him with Starry who as I explained would be an easy mislynch.

[qoute=Kit]So we're working with two main theory's here on Daniel as far as I'm concerned. Either he is indeed just a very bold town player/bad scum or he and Tom are teamed together and planning a master mind-f*** on us. The latter of which I really doubt, especially because Daniel almost got himself lynched on D1 before Tom even came into the game. Which actually makes your theory impossible.

But he didn't. He had a close call but people wanted to lynch Starry more than him. His defense about his choice after Starry was announced as Blue Role is what makes him suspicious to me. He kept replying to Oath instead of admitting his mistake, and he did it on Night where people will likely see him as a lynch material the next day.

Though of course as you said, it might be my inexperience showing and I'm misinterpreting actions for something else entirely. I'll look back on old posts.

Kit said:
Please inform me at what point was he panicking? All he did was answer any question thrown at him. Was he really next-to-lynch? No, I don't think so.

It's a poor choice of words on my part, but from his frequency of replies and what he choose to reply, I get the impression that he was panicking, or at least wasn't sure what to do. I will try to round up his posts later when I'm not on mobile, along with rechecking my assumptions on him

Kit said:
This is really, really, really hard to believe. First off Tom isn't a player to put out a fire, he's the one who starts it and watches it burn. If he and his team could benefit off of lynching a fellow mafia player to make themselves look good, specifically one like Daniel he absolutely would jump at the opportunity and we'd probably all buy it.

I've only played one game with Tom and he seemed similar with how he made himself to be town-aligned on your game and then pointing Ness as mafia. I thought he might play similarly in this game.

I wasn't around on other games where he is mafia and I can't really take his old playstyle into consideration because I wasn't around on that game. So Tom would do this Tom would do that would not convince me atm.

Kit said:
Said right after Tom's post on Trundle.
I don't trust Tom so I wouldn't trust his reads. That was directed at other players who are not on my suspicion list.

TL;DR My read isn't the best but that is what I'm thinking right now. I still think Daniel and Tom are suspicious, and my points might not be right, and I expected people to turn on me for my lacking reading. Take that as you will. I'm gonna reread their replies now.

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I screwed up the codes whoops
 
White Claw's only post in the main thread was to join and they voted against Starrywolf. That's scummy.

Reyyy voted against Starrywolf and this is all they have contributed to the main thread:

Rip Kayla and Justin, you will forever be forgotten for dying on day one
; ^ (

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...-Mafia-Day-2&p=6094158&viewfull=1#post6094158

rip this fkucuking thread

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...-Mafia-Day-2&p=6097561&viewfull=1#post6097561

what am i meant to contribute
how am i meant to contribute if u guys are all american and post at 2am over here

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...-Mafia-Day-2&p=6101720&viewfull=1#post6101720

i voted 4 starry cause she's usually inactive first night and from the reindeer game she acted the way she did and she was mafia so uh
I didnt know she was blue role oops
plus in reindeer mafia
she acted this way too and was maf
so oops

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...-Mafia-Day-2&p=6101798&viewfull=1#post6101798

Nothing of note and excuses from Reyy.

Lucanosa didn't vote and has been relatively silent, on a supposed hiatus aside from this game:

That button is 10/10
http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...-Mafia-Day-2&p=6093492&viewfull=1#post6093492

//when dislexia kicks in and the s dissappears off of scummy
hnng

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...-Mafia-Day-2&p=6094904&viewfull=1#post6094904

wait, are the people who signed up active? i.e. did they post or come on since you sent the invitations?

also what is actually happening right now, this is just too confusing

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...-Mafia-Day-2&p=6096372&viewfull=1#post6096372

^

it reminds me of a spamposting/shtposting thread in brewster's tbh

the only thing that made sense was Starry D1 lynch and the button that was on fleek

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...-Mafia-Day-2&p=6096414&viewfull=1#post6096414

I've finally had a chance to come on and read all that's happened and.... holy ****. The amount of shtposting is ungodly in this thread, at least it was yesterday.

Can I ask, why did you shove Starry under the bandwagon in the first place? Like, what scummy things did she post that make you think she was scum? I mean I understand since she's been screwing up games, but, at least she makes an effort to post sometimes and participate a bit. I myself have a busy af schedule, so seeing her get lynched over that is like .... smh. Just because someone's scum in one game and you get lucky with shtlynching them D1 doesn't mean you can do it every game they're in to get guarenteed scum. D1 lynch is always a shtlynch, but that was shtty af shtlynch imho.

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...-Mafia-Day-2&p=6101923&viewfull=1#post6101923

Interesting how they more or less ****posted, then came in to complain about that. They didn't seem opposed to a Starry lynch until N1 as well, quite the change in behavior there.

Not a fan of any of these players right now honestly. All leaning towards red right now.

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Ayayaya pls love me

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Forgot to mention, White Claw has supposedly been spotted viewing the thread multiple times so they are a silent partner here.
 
Ayayaya pls love me/QUOTE]
:(

I've looked back on Daniel's posts after Kit and Dolby pointed out what I'm lacking with my reading and I've realized my views on them might be based on bias. He and Tom were mafia last game so I unconsciously assumed they are scum again and only looked at their posts from one perspective. Looking back and considering their actions from town's perspective, Daniel actions make sense, albeit questionable.

Though this doesn't clear them from my suspicion yet, but I'll reread the thread again and start analyzing other players instead. I don't want to make a mistake of making my scope small and miss the actual scums, and I just realized now that if Daniel/Tom aren't scum, I'm giving the actual scum freedom to hide with my accusations.

I'm sorry for being harsh on you guys, Daniel and Tom. Nothing personal against you </3

I'll still compile the posts that made me suspicious of Daniel in the first place later so to at least explain things from my side.
 
*Pwople come one calling your case weake*
*panda goes quiet*
Ayaya-MY CASE WAS BS YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT PANDA IS SCUM HAHAHA

I brought up the tunneling and defending innocent radical before him though...

Really Daniel ? Some of us have lives ? I have a job, I had to go to work I didn't just go silent...

Or are you gonna lynch me for having a job like you got Starry lynched for having school ?
 
I could see one of CMD or Panda being scum seeing how they seem to be doing the same back and forth scum argument that Panda and her boyfriend[/b] Ness did back in DA:I.


Ya exactly when I was trying to call Ness out the whole time and no one would pay attention to me and I ended up being right.

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Trojan I see you, have anything to say ?
 
Ya exactly when I was trying to call Ness out the whole time and no one would pay attention to me and I ended up being right.

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Trojan I see you, have anything to say ?

All I have to say is that I trust you panda. You passed Trojans legendary, Not Mafia List.
 
For what?

Also I'm not opposed to being lynched if y'all really would like to see what I bleed.
So you're probably saying you're townie and not afraid of being stumped.

With all the lynch candidates you brought up, it's weird how you're just willing to mislynch to prove you're own innocence instead of trying to lynch scum.
 
ok its late and i''m just getting home from work but I just wanted to say that I know the bickering back and forth between Daniel and I is stupid and even annoying at times but I do find something really wrong with the way he pushed for the Starry lynch so hard, and i know that Day 1 lynch is just pretty much a stab in the dark especially when theres so much inactivity and ****posting to go through, but his conduct just doesn't sit right with me, and i know it gets confusing with the fast replacements and all that... i shouldn't be tunneling Daniel so much ONLY because its not only distracting to myself but also the other town members from finding the other mafia players, i know we should be looking for "bigger fish to fry" as Tom says but i think a good place to start is Daniel... i have never been mafia so i don't really know the pressure it puts on a player but if i could imagine it, it would probably be tremendous especially if some of your mafia members were inactive... i appreciate Daniel for being so active and everyone else who has contributed those far.
 
For what?

Also I'm not opposed to being lynched if y'all really would like to see what I bleed.


i found this a little weird also not cause of what your saying really... but just because the randomness about it.

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Daniel how come you have your little green button by your name turned off and also your name hidden in the thread info log ?

and Trundle i see you in there !
 
ok its late and i''m just getting home from work but I just wanted to say that I know the bickering back and forth between Daniel and I is stupid and even annoying at times but I do find something really wrong with the way he pushed for the Starry lynch so hard, and i know that Day 1 lynch is just pretty much a stab in the dark especially when theres so much inactivity and ****posting to go through, but his conduct just doesn't sit right with me, and i know it gets confusing with the fast replacements and all that... i shouldn't be tunneling Daniel so much ONLY because its not only distracting to myself but also the other town members from finding the other mafia players, i know we should be looking for "bigger fish to fry" as Tom says but i think a good place to start is Daniel... i have never been mafia so i don't really know the pressure it puts on a player but if i could imagine it, it would probably be tremendous especially if some of your mafia members were inactive... i appreciate Daniel for being so active and everyone else who has contributed those far.
It's okay to have gut feelings of the lynch didn't stick right with you, but I don't think stocking by them when you have so much evidence to go look at other people for scum tells/town tells is the best thing. You don't need to ditch your suspicions on me, but tunneling me for the hope that I'll scum slip isn't the best use of time.
 
It's okay to have gut feelings of the lynch didn't stick right with you, but I don't think stocking by them when you have so much evidence to go look at other people for scum tells/town tells is the best thing. You don't need to ditch your suspicions on me, but tunneling me for the hope that I'll scum slip isn't the best use of time.

i completely understand that and i know its not very helpful its just that this is only my third game and i have been right multiple times about mafia and no one listens to me i know i need to be more ....i don't know the word right now... but in long terms i need to not use my emotions so much and take the time to make a "case" and speak me piece (peace?) haha i dunno....
 
i found this a little weird also not cause of what your saying really... but just because the randomness about it.

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Daniel how come you have your little green button by your name turned off and also your name hidden in the thread info log ?

and Trundle i see you in there !
I'm invisible, I've been invisible since I want to read in peace

Also everyone had contributed at least something so far besides
Reyy-doing nothing but did that last game to so I don't know
White claw-Either needs to say something or get replaced
Mother of llamas- only agreed with my lynch at the very end yet voted me last minute without saying anything
Jellofish- I don't even remember what you've done but I haven't seen you recently
Lucanosa- Questioned my reason for lynch afterwards and hasn't been seen since
 
oh and also i have been reading ever post and having my own opinions about them, as they come along... i know that other players, even if they seem to side with me at the time might not be on my side...

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I'm invisible, I've been invisible since I want to read in peace

Also everyone had contributed at least something so far besides
Reyy-doing nothing but did that last game to so I don't know
White claw-Either needs to say something or get replaced
Mother of llamas- only agreed with my lynch at the very end yet voted me last minute without saying anything
Jellofish- I don't even remember what you've done but I haven't seen you recently
Lucanosa- Questioned my reason for lynch afterwards and hasn't been seen since

i agree with most of this.. White Claw liked a post of mine in this thread a little bit ago but never posted so i know they are reading just not contributing...
 

3 relevant posts in the game. "As much as possible Day 1", so invoking Dolby, calling Daniel town, and saying your reasoning for m3ow isn't stupid is literally all you could do Day 1? IN 48 hours that's literally all you have to show for yourself? Literally I didn't need to do the "Research" because literally you have nothing to show for yourself and in a weak attempt to deflect spotlight you're trying to push back and frame me as scum. I look forward to your posts tomorrow though sweetie <3

I'm not sure quite what you expected from me in Day 1. You guys are playing as if the amount I post plus or minus 5 determines whether or not I'm scum. What did you want me to do? I didn't find scum and guess who didn't either? YOU. What the heck did you do other than accuse me? What did I do other than accuse m30w_ as an attempt to get the game to steer from lynching an inactive.

Do with this post what you will.. But for the moment I'm inclined to believe that Daniel is town, Tom is... kind of ringing green vibes, Ayaya is leaning more towards the middle, Panda & Trundle seem a bit fishy, and Ness is 100% Arsonist. Guaranteed.

I find it funny that you hop on me being "fishy" even though you haven't even commented on anything I've said yet. What makes me fishy? You saw me as scum last game I played and you know how I play.

Except there's one huge, glaring hole with your accusation there - I was protected from being doused with gas. Mafia can't douse their own team. No one has cc'd being protected because I WAS THE ONLY ONE PROTECTED. Whoever did must have either known that I always die N1 or happened by chance to protect me. The fact that you "forgot" that just sets off all my scum radars. Anyone using their brain would realise that I would have to be town if I got a PM protection.

To be honest, I'm almost positive you're scum. This is how you play because it's hard for you to pretend your innocent when you're red. You get quite and post general recap of the game. I'm probably going to vote for you today because Daniel will become increasingly obvious when you flip red.

RUSSIAN RED MAFIA YOU SCUMMY PIECE OF TRASH (AND COUNTLESS OTHERS)
And yes, I did forget that because I HAVE SO MUCH SCHOOL WORK TO DO but I'm actually trying my best. I haven't avoided pointing suspicions at anyone. That's how you know I'm not scum. My scum play is terrible and it just avoids pointing fingers for as long as possible because I know when I die those people are cleared as town. I'm aggressive and accusatory as town, and you know that. You're just pushing me like this because a) you lied about being doused (btw if there is a doctor that can confirm they DIDN'T protect Minties, that's a confirmed scum kill) or b) you're just salty Monroe. I'm not being quiet.

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Tom's Mini-list:
  • Oath2order
  • Minties
  • Trojan
  • Ayaya
  • Dolby
  • Panda
  • Trundle
  • White Claw
  • m3ow
  • Call Me Daniel
  • JellofishXD
  • Lucanosa
  • Mother of Llamas

That's my thoughts so far. Too many middle of the road names. Some green purely because they got doused, one because of a theory.

Lists like that are exactly what mafia players do to try to prove they are helping town. You suck at mafia and I'm going to get you lynched.

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i found this a little weird also not cause of what your saying really... but just because the randomness about it.

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Daniel how come you have your little green button by your name turned off and also your name hidden in the thread info log ?

and Trundle i see you in there !

Yes, sorry I don't post crap once every 5 minutes but actually take the effort to put together a drawn out post
 
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