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responses to your ******** post in bold

r u ok

you posted right before I posted that- less than ten minutes, it took definitely longer than ten mins for me to make that post. so I did not see your post in case that was not obvious.

so now you think me and Tom are a team? but you just said that you only accused me as an attempt to not lynch Starry.... what is your case against me I genuinely don't get it

also, 3 different posts for why you suspect Tom? previous to that reply, you only mentioned him in one post. correct me if I'm wrong but the reason why you suspect him is because he suspects you??

I'm not sure quite what you expected from me in Day 1. You guys are playing as if the amount I post plus or minus 5 determines whether or not I'm scum. What did you want me to do? I didn't find scum and guess who didn't either? YOU. What the heck did you do other than accuse me? What did I do other than accuse m30w_ as an attempt to get the game to steer from lynching an inactive.

the thing is, at that point it was either Daniel or Starry. if you didn't want to lynch an inactive, you should've actually made a case for it or for someone else to be lynched and not wasted your vote on me based on a joke accusation.
 
r u ok

you posted right before I posted that- less than ten minutes, it took definitely longer than ten mins for me to make that post. so I did not see your post in case that was not obvious.

so now you think me and Tom are a team? but you just said that you only accused me as an attempt to not lynch Starry.... what is your case against me I genuinely don't get it

also, 3 different posts for why you suspect Tom? previous to that reply, you only mentioned him in one post. correct me if I'm wrong but the reason why you suspect him is because he suspects you??



the thing is, at that point it was either Daniel or Starry. if you didn't want to lynch an inactive, you should've actually made a case for it or for someone else to be lynched and not wasted your vote on me based on a joke accusation.


i agree your vote was useless and you didn't contribute to anything during the time.
 
I trust Tom, not sure why you guys are hesitant. First of all, this. If you are town you aren't afraid of being lynched. That's why I began to really suspect Daniel, because he seemed pretty worried to me when he thought he was going to be lynched. Anyway, Tom's backed up all his reads with evidence, questioned others when he saw people jumping to conclusions, hasn't really shtposted at all. Also he's trying to not just focus on Daniel because guys, we can't be sure just yet. and if we only obsess over Daniel we're letting other suspects slip right by. I'm 99% sure Tom's town.

Daniel I don't know about, my opinion is that he's really sus but I don't think he should be our next lynch. let's see what he does.

I think we should focus on other players now

Trundle:


Trundle has made four (seperate) relevant posts. 3 of them are mostly just accusing me of being scum. and the 4th is accusing Tom. Trundle, do you still feel the same about me being scum or were you just scapegoating me?
is it just me or is he really quick to get the subject off himself? he always is so sure about who is town and who is scum.

Kit:

I'm not accusing her, but IMO there are things that don't add up to me.
she went from this:




side note: Trundle's case on me was the first page on the thread that she posted this reply. so the part where she said she didn't check but still pointed it out, just seems off to me..

then literally two minutes later her next post is this:

& recently:



if you're mafia and you have a pretty reasonable reason to lynch someone D1 (that also fits in with your game history) then why would you not take that and run with it? if he took back what he said after he had the majority vote to be lynched that'd be waaaay obviously sus.

basically I want to hear more from Trundle & Kit. Kit- I know you made a long post but I think it was more about Tom than Daniel, & I don't see any reason to suspect Tom. I'd also like to hear from Trojan.

who do you guys trust, who don't you trust? pls elaborate so I know you're not just saying w/e comes to your mind first Trojan

M8
Starry seems like a more likely candidate in my eyes and at least we'd be ridding ourselves of a barely-active player.

more about Tom than Daniel,
It was about Ayaya's T&D scum team theory, not strictly about either of them.

if you're mafia and you have a pretty reasonable reason to lynch someone D1 (that also fits in with your game history) then why would you not take that and run with it? if he took back what he said after he had the majority vote to be lynched that'd be waaaay obviously sus.
I don't.. Understand what you're saying here?

then literally two minutes later her next post is this:
##VOTE: StarryWolf
Mggh not happy that Daniel has majority rn

Because I said I was voting Starry? Why is that werid?
I stated there really was no reason to lynch Daniel?

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Also why do you suspect Trojan? LITTERALLY all he did was claim doused. MINTIES did that too, what makes her claim okay and his not?
 
r u ok

you posted right before I posted that- less than ten minutes, it took definitely longer than ten mins for me to make that post. so I did not see your post in case that was not obvious.

so now you think me and Tom are a team? but you just said that you only accused me as an attempt to not lynch Starry.... what is your case against me I genuinely don't get it

also, 3 different posts for why you suspect Tom? previous to that reply, you only mentioned him in one post. correct me if I'm wrong but the reason why you suspect him is because he suspects you??



the thing is, at that point it was either Daniel or Starry. if you didn't want to lynch an inactive, you should've actually made a case for it or for someone else to be lynched and not wasted your vote on me based on a joke accusation.

1) I suspect Tom because of his behaviour. It is the only thing I can go off of right now because only Starry has been lynched so far and no one else has died. As I've said before, I've played so many games with Tom. Most older players try super hard to get me out early when they are mafia because they know I'm going to call them out and stop their team from winning, which is exactly what they are trying to do right now. His basis for thinking I'm scum is a) only posting 4 times during Day 1 (which is actually quite common for me to lay back Day 1 as I know it's not worth putting that much effort into, I can cite countless games I do this as townie if you want), b) Not somehow magically lynching scum right away. Both of these points are literally nothing and he is instantly ASSUMING I am scum for little to no reason. It would be perfectly reasonable for him to be suspicious of me, but outright believing me to be scum and pushing me is completely baseless and scummy. That's why I think he is scum.

2) I don't know if you're scum or just a dumb town, but I made a post on you day 1 because I thought your posts were scummy and I didn't want to follow a bandwagon on an inactive. This created more option for town to vote even though I didn't execute my post very well at all and people brushed it aside.

3) I did make a case for someone else to be lynched. It was not a joke accusation. You passing it off as a joke accusation is, again, pretty suspicious. Anything anyone says in these games can be used for or against them.
 
If you are town you aren't afraid of being lynched.
WORDS CANNOT DESCRIBE HOW MUCH IS WRONG WITH THIS SENTENCE
Do not use that as an excuse to clear Tom or anyone. Even townies should try to avoid being lynched because lynches are now the only way we can combat the arsos, and ontop of that you lose your vote. Tom shrugging his shoulders and saying "Go ahead, lynch me" with his soft townie claim does not prove him as town. If anything it's luring people into a false sense of security, like yourself.
 
If you are town you aren't afraid of being lynched.
WORDS CANNOT DESCRIBE HOW MUCH IS WRONG WITH THIS SENTENCE
Do not use that as an excuse to clear Tom or anyone. Even townies should try to avoid being lynched because lynches are now the only way we can combat the arsos, and ontop of that you lose your vote. Tom shrugging his shoulders and saying "Go ahead, lynch me" with his soft townie claim does not prove him as town. If anything it's luring people into a false sense of security, like yourself.

i agree... but wait

does starry still get to talk in this game ? or no cause she was a blue role ?
 
I'm not sure what you mean hang up to be perfectly honest. But if you want my thoughts on Monroe here they are:
- Very salty towards me and pushing me super hard, very common of her in games where she is scum and wants me dead before I properly call her out.
- Claimed that she was protected from being doused by "someone who knows I die a lot night 1". The only people that would know that are me, Tom, and oath2order, and I'm not the doctor. I believe it to be a fake claim at the moment, although we will see in time.
- Very blindly supportive of Tom even though she usually hates Tom's mafia posts.

O. You wanna calm the **** down mate?

Calling you out for playing ****ty isn't being salty. Actually the most common target for me in games is Dad because he is active and analyses well, not you and he's not playing this one. I also said that someone could have protected me randomly because Oath made a big deal about me joining before the game started. We have not had ANY OTHER claims by people that were protected and I'm assuming with a player base this size that there would only be one doctor. If I was lying, they could easily claim that they protected someone else and boom I'm dead. That's stupid as hell, almost as stupid as Tom's watcher claim in reindeer mafia. I do like how you continue to try to dispute the fact that I'm telling the truth despite not a single counter claim. Since Ness PMs who gets doused, the pool of who could be mafia shrinks each day and it's only a matter of time now Trundy-poo.

If you're clearly the strongest "town" player in the game that HAS to be silenced, then why didn't you get targeted last night? If you're so damn amazing then why weren't you hit?

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Tangent - why the **** did Trojan get doused? Out of all the players, why someone like that?

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For what?

Also I'm not opposed to being lynched if y'all really would like to see what I bleed.

So much wrong with this though. You of all people know that losing town for no reason hurts town. If you are actually town, you FIGHT to win. You don't roll over on your back and tell people to kill you.
 
Because I said I was voting Starry? Why is that werid?
I stated there really was no reason to lynch Daniel?

I don't find it odd that you voted for Starry; I find it odd you questioned why Daniel was so hard pressed to vote for her, but didn't suspect him

I don't.. Understand what you're saying here?

You mentioned how Daniel stuck with his Starry vote the whole time, which wouldn't be something mafia would do. But he did have a good reason to bangwagon her. Why wouldn't he stick to it? As he said, nobody was mentioning anyone else to vote for besides himself. If he changed his mind after people started voting for him, it'd look really bad lol. +if he changed his vote, he would've been lynched most likely


Also why do you suspect Trojan? LITTERALLY all he did was claim doused. MINTIES did that too, what makes her claim okay and his not?

I don't really, I just want to hear from him. He's posted & given opinions but hasn't really explained why that much. Anyway I don't think Minties could lie about being doused and saved, because the person that actually was saved would tell everyone (or do you not get notified that you're saved unless you're doused?)

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1) I suspect Tom because of his behaviour. It is the only thing I can go off of right now because only Starry has been lynched so far and no one else has died. As I've said before, I've played so many games with Tom. Most older players try super hard to get me out early when they are mafia because they know I'm going to call them out and stop their team from winning, which is exactly what they are trying to do right now. His basis for thinking I'm scum is a) only posting 4 times during Day 1 (which is actually quite common for me to lay back Day 1 as I know it's not worth putting that much effort into, I can cite countless games I do this as townie if you want), b) Not somehow magically lynching scum right away. Both of these points are literally nothing and he is instantly ASSUMING I am scum for little to no reason. It would be perfectly reasonable for him to be suspicious of me, but outright believing me to be scum and pushing me is completely baseless and scummy. That's why I think he is scum.

2) I don't know if you're scum or just a dumb town, but I made a post on you day 1 because I thought your posts were scummy and I didn't want to follow a bandwagon on an inactive. This created more option for town to vote even though I didn't execute my post very well at all and people brushed it aside.

3) I did make a case for someone else to be lynched. It was not a joke accusation. You passing it off as a joke accusation is, again, pretty suspicious. Anything anyone says in these games can be used for or against them.

going to bed now cause it's ridiculously late here but I'll just make a quick reply

I don't think he meant that you were supposed to kill scum d1

& lol I mean I made a spongebob reference and before I said that everyone was joking around and or shtposting, I had basically nothing to go on. you're right though it wasn't just a joke it was also an attempt to get reactions, I've said that already
 
When I was scum with Dolby last game, he read Trojan well and said he was a blue role who should be killed. I'm guessing he was doused for being blue read by Dolby/experienced player.
 
Okay after getting super fired up at Trundle, I do think they there are players that are hiding in the chaos of the current arguments.

Mother of all llamas

Posts this game:

As bad as it was to lynch the vigilante, its not like she was going to be active in this game or shoot the correct person anyway to be honest.

Right now I'm thinking Minties, Meow and Tom are almost 100% town in my opinion.
As for Mafia, I'm leaning towards Kit or Trundle. I'll make a more informative post when I'm more awake.

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Yeah I saw him lurking a second ago, he better post soon...

Was it only Trojan and Minties who claimed to be doused?

It has been over 24 hours since they claimed that a more informative post was coming. Following the current pitchfork chasing of Trundle. I'm curious as to why everyone thinks Tom is 100% town? He hasn't done anything or claimed anything to place him anywhere near that category. However this is an extremely new player, but they posted significantly more when they replaced Sarnone in reindeer mafia as the doctor.

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Reyy

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what am i meant to contribute
how am i meant to contribute if u guys are all american and post at 2am over here

i voted 4 starry cause she's usually inactive first night and from the reindeer game she acted the way she did and she was mafia so uh
I didnt know she was blue role oops
plus in reindeer mafia
she acted this way too and was maf
so oops

Timezone thing really isn't that good of an excuse. I used it once when I was playing as mafia because I didn't know how to participate and I slipped by for a good portion of the game. I live in Australia and make an effort to prioritise the time I have to post even when others are sleeping. These posts seem off to me and considering they have posted little else, there's not much to go on.

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JellofishXD

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Omg I'm so sorry for not being on sooner!

Modkill the spammers or replace them...

JellofishXD is actually someone I do believe might be scum. They were just a townie in reindeer mafia and actually contributed to the game. They tried to provide substance to the game and scum hunt. I believe JellofishXD might be hiding out because we all forgot about them. They're not new to mafia and have played like 10 games.

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Lucanosa

I've finally had a chance to come on and read all that's happened and.... holy ****. The amount of shtposting is ungodly in this thread, at least it was yesterday.

Can I ask, why did you shove Starry under the bandwagon in the first place? Like, what scummy things did she post that make you think she was scum? I mean I understand since she's been screwing up games, but, at least she makes an effort to post sometimes and participate a bit. I myself have a busy af schedule, so seeing her get lynched over that is like .... smh. Just because someone's scum in one game and you get lucky with shtlynching them D1 doesn't mean you can do it every game they're in to get guarenteed scum. D1 lynch is always a shtlynch, but that was shtty af shtlynch imho.

Only post after the spam that occurred in the beginning of the game condemning Daniel for the lynch of Starry just like everyone else. It always raises some flags when players go mysteriously silent after regurgitating what other players have said.

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Trojan has just been shtposting one liners, so not sure where to go with them.

White Claw hasn't posted at all, despite viewing the thread. Possibly mafia and being new, not knowing how to post.

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When I was scum with Dolby last game, he read Trojan well and said he was a blue role who should be killed. I'm guessing he was doused for being blue read by Dolby/experienced player.

Actually this is a good point. I can't see any other reason why someone would attempt to kill Trojan because they don't actually post anything that's worth reading, just a lot of spam and nonsense. I want to hear a little more from Dolby before I go on about his blue sniping skills.
 
@Minties
White claw either has to be a scum or a troll for going off invisible to view for me. If they don't post I'm pretty sure they'll be replaced so I'm not overly concerned as I am just frustrated at then.

I don't think Jello posted anything in the beginning of reindeer until more people died and they were kinda forced to help out so I'm not too suspicious of that yet.

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Also since no one else stepped up to bring doused and minties was protected. I'm guessing N2 will just be more dousing unless they REALLY want Trojan dead which I'd doubt.
 
Players not voting
Dolby, Lucanosa, Mother of all llamas, JelloFishXD

Mother of all llamas voted in Daniel at the last minute, but still in time (which should have been a no lynch because it would be a tie but yeah...).

Curious as to why the other 3 didn't vote. Dolby is definitely lurking, maybe didn't want to look scummy by piling on Starry.

JellofishXD even complained about people comparing them to their past behaviour in reindeer mafia and said they would be more active now, leading me to find the inactivity this game incredibly sus.

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@Daniel

I'd be inclined to believe that if they hadn't just slammed in a vote for Starrywolf as well. White Claw literally voted Starry like 8 hours after the Day One post went up and said nothing in the thread. They still haven't said anything. If Ness lets them live (which I'll punch him in the **** for because they have clearly broken the activity rule) then they're most likely mafia.

Note that Reyy also voted for Starry without saying anything either until they flipped blue, then they just repeated what we all had already said and didn't contribute anything.
 
Will White Claw be replaced/modkilled for not posting at all yet?
I don't think you saw my question before
 
@Daniel

Doesn't really matter unless they post in the thread. At this point, they'll be modkilled because they didn't post day one, night one and now day two. Bed time for me though. Will read replies in the AM.

Was there a reason that Mother of all llama's vote wasn't counted, making a tie between Daniel and Starry and thus a no lynch? 5 =/= majority
 
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