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[Geoni]

I feel like at this rate are votes are kinda split, or at least our intents on who we're voting. I need Bianca to post before I'm even willing to place something on her.

I'm not no lynching the more I think about the probability math. I hate doing math in mafia but the flipper has better chances of happening by later days if we don't deal with reducing mafia's numbers right away and if it's day 2 when it happens we're ****ed but if it's day 3 then that's why no lynching is a bad idea.

 

[toadsworthy]

lol Dolby did report me, it's not gonna change anything I feel

 

[Dolby]

Just because this is a "valiant" intention, doesn't mean you are going about it right. You did say I wanted Toad dead before I even started losing my mind, so my argument about how you are defeating me before I can defend myself stands. And it's hard to want to play with someone who 1. Makes up there mind way too quickly 2. Threatens to vote based off of such little or poor evidence 3. Openly convinces and validates themselves off shaky meta 4. And has a history of sticking to this logic and not budging or being open to changing your mind.

You have done that to me multiple times and have gotten just as emotional and rude. My point is based on your flaws you don't actively want to admit or deal with, your gripe with me is that I'm rude, blunt, and vocal, but you fail to admit or take credit for anything I actually say.

If we no lynch at any point we need mafia to kill flipper at night to win

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sorry i forgot this game existed but wow this is why i was reluctant to join

dolbys just being normal town dolby
punchys being punchy
and toads is being toads

my opinion on whatever the heck happened? well, i have no idea. i think dolby was kind of grasping at straws to quickly and was trying to find someone to lynch as they were the only one online (and probably with a bunch of spare time lmao)

Yeah, I don't really like this, but if Dedenne is town and doesn't come back I think we're forced to lynch her anyway (same with Bianca) regardless of how we feel about her

Check me on this thought Dolby, if no lynching is damaging or not damaging in these scenarios. It only buys time anyways but I'm not entirely sold to myself because of some people already looking kinda funky imo. (Punchy and Bianca from what I've read so far is my team guess).

This comment is ultimately damaging to us, but frankly I feel the need to say it, if you no lynch today and scum kills non-flipper tonight, all scum and flipper need to do is vote nl instantly and not kill until flipper flips to mafia. I think in what's effectively a 3v3 they'll know enough that it's safe to effectivly out




Personally, I consider Vanessa/Punchy to actually have some scum equity. Vanessa seems to be trying to steer Dad's sus off of Punchy and onto Dedenne, and she's forgetting to mention that Dedenne did almost the same thing as the last game that she played with her as town, Resistance mafia. Not saying that I think that but it's def an interesting connection

@dad yeah I was mostly pointing out your first stuff to show how Dolby could've picked multiple people for the same arguemebt he had on me, but seemingly didn't. I mostly just commented on everything at the time so people knew i actually read the thread and not just pissed.

I do like dad's content more than Vanessa's. She is attaching herself to things other people are suing rather than generating her own opinions. Which is not helpful. Also dad is coukd enough to make these posts as either alignment so Im still torn between the two.

Dedenne's post is very minimal relatively, but compared to what I expect, I at least see the effort from dedenne, if she was a scared scum I would expect her to just be like idk rather than actually comment on specific people

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I lean towards Vanessa and Bianca scum team for right now

This is what I was hoping to see, but I really don't like the Bianca scum team comment because I really don't want to believe or think that you believe that Bianca is intentionally scum vegging after it being confirmed by Antonio that she didn't get her role PM

 

[Dolby]

I think that making judgements off of one short post is slightly pointless and grasping at straws but if I was forced to judge at gunpoint I would say I don't like it because she's just summarizing and not really giving opinions other than "toads is being toads" etc. The one time I saw dedenne as scum (hunger games) she was extra coasty and avoided giving opinions, town her tends to have a more laid back attitude and will say what's on her mind. So that's why I want to wait and she more posts later.

Like, I get that this is an early kinda forced read, but this really ignores how Dedenne operates as town. Not saying that I find Dedenne townlike though, but this is really a flawed understanding at best

https://www.belltreeforums.com/search.php?searchid=380922

Dedenne is a dethy as town, did no solving but tbf dethys are supposed to be auto

https://www.belltreeforums.com/search.php?searchid=380917&pp=&page=2

As town in resistance, really gave that one opinion on me scum in the beginning and kinda just gave up after that

https://www.belltreeforums.com/search.php?searchid=380922

 

[dedenne]

i dont have anyone to vote for atm bc i just dont have any opinions on them. also i would reply to other posts but idk what to reply so i guess i'll leave it?

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dolby the links arent working

 

[Dolby]

i dont have anyone to vote for atm bc i just dont have any opinions on them. also i would reply to other posts but idk what to reply so i guess i'll leave it?

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dolby the links arent working

Ok @Vanessa I think I have to take what I said back because if Dedenne leaves and doesn't vote I think we have to vote either her or Bianca for not voting and hope one of them is scum

But the links go to your posting in Resistance and Punchy 3 dethy where you didn't really do much. In Resistance you were kinda defeated, and in Punchy 3 you didn't have to solve

 

[dedenne]

i dont even remember punchy dethy tbh and resistance was a nightmare

 

[cornimer]

https://www.belltreeforums.com/search.php?searchid=380928 here's Dedenne's post filter for hunger games for scum meta, I'm trying to find posts to prove my view on her town meta. But you can see from this that as scum she posted a lot of filler and apologies for not being active, and didn't really give opinions on anything

 

[Dolby]

https://www.belltreeforums.com/search.php?searchid=380928 here's Dedenne's post filter for hunger games for scum meta, I'm trying to find posts to prove my view on her town meta. But you can see from this that as scum she posted a lot of filler and apologies for not being active, and didn't really give opinions on anything

The problem with taking posts from Resistance is that I think she either didn't understand the setup the whole time or didn't really put thought into her reads because she was constantly stating teams that would have been impossible to pass a mission from her perspective as town

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And I don't disagree that that's what her scum meta is

 

[cornimer]

The problem with taking posts from Resistance is that I think she either didn't understand the setup the whole time or didn't really put thought into her reads because she was constantly stating teams that would have been impossible to pass a mission from her perspective as town

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And I don't disagree that that's what her scum meta is

I didn't take any posts from Resistance, I agree that's not a good game to judge her by

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hoi heres my contribution to life. some of these may be old but I don't wanna be killed for no posts wrwsfwaet64w

so on the whole fn voting punchy, and the whole playstyle thing. Y'all remember woodpiness Oregon where punchy was trying a new playstyle, and us all scumread him? THIS IS LITERALLY THE EXACT SAME THING HERE DONT SUS PUNCHY FOR HIS PLAYSTYLE!!! FN voting punchy still makes 0 sense and the discord thing has been explained.

And @Kayla, I did state in my RQs that I was on the bus and was late for school, and phones aren't allowed during the school day sooooooooo...

and ive just realised that everything I had in my notes have already been discussed :/// I'll try and contribute but I'm currently doing geography homework due in tomorrow. I also like to do my reads second part of day 2 so I have more of an idea

I'm struggling to find the game that I'm thinking of where she gave more opinions, but I found this from CTSTP and you can see she had a direct opinion on Punchy

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AHA IT WAS WOODPINES

 

[Dolby]

I didn't take any posts from Resistance, I agree that's not a good game to judge her by

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I'm struggling to find the game that I'm thinking of where she gave more opinions, but I found this from CTSTP and you can see she had a direct opinion on Punchy

Go to Woodpines, she had some better than decent stuff early game there, but recent meta takes precedence over older

 

[cornimer]

I feel like panda is town because iirc in RHOM panda wasn't posting much and if she did it wasn't really contributing, correct me if I'm wrong tho

What why did y'all vote waffles???

Anyway my biggest sus is still punchy, but not as strong as before. We'll see.

I'm very strong town leaning Antonio now, although he pretty much went with the everyone else's thoughts, it sounded genuine and noob town.

She was still uncertain on her decisions in some posts and was fairly inactive, but she DID give a reads list and try to form opinions on people rather than saying "idk what to do"

Spoiler: Dedenne's reads in Woodpines

Back from swimming so time for my thoughts.

Concerning one of Amanda's reads, there was literally 1 scum lean in all of it, but I get it now as literally everyone is so towny;-; also how haven't I died yet LMAO

And @Farobi, wow, you're really keen to lynch me aren't you? Aside from being inactive, what other reasoning do you have?

Also town is screwed, there's literally no way we're gonna win

Annndsdddddd reads

Toads- honestly I'm almost certain your town, to me your posts don't sound forced, and your posts have been really helpful. Town lean

Farobi- idk. Idk how to read him so null.

Amanda- contributing, her reads were a tad bit wishy washy, but I'm town leaning her.

Locker- I believe the claim so town. I never thought she was mafia so

Antonio- null. More and more I'm starting to think he's scum. Most of me thinks he's noob town but he's been s o q u i e t

Bianca- acting like town Bianca, although I've never played with scum Bianca, I still think she's town. Posted useful info during lockets claim business thingy

Me- stahp

Panda- pretty certain she's scum, I know you're at work and I can relate to being busy, but in RHOM you did post some stuff but here it's pretty much nothing. Scum lean

Sorry if these seemed rushed my hand hurt ow ok back to being busy bye

However of course this was a much longer game so she had more time to formulate opinions. But, we don't have a lot of options right now.

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Go to Woodpines, she had some better than decent stuff early game there, but recent meta takes precedence over older

Beat you to it
I know it's old but a lot of recent games have been disasters or she was lynched D1

 

[Dolby]

Beat you to it
I know it's old but a lot of recent games have been disasters or she was lynched D1

If you had to lynch/guess the entire scumteam right now who would it be?

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The trouble with using that as the most valid is that Dedenne has demonstrated to be less than willing to participate in recent games compared to older ones. If we judge by that Woodpines standard I think we'd lynch her everytime, regardless of her alignment, and everytime thusfar she's been town

 

[cornimer]

If you had to lynch/guess the entire scumteam right now who would it be?

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The trouble with using that as the most valid is that Dedenne has demonstrated to be less than willing to participate in recent games compared to older ones. If we judge by that Woodpines standard I think we'd lynch her everytime, regardless of her alignment, and everytime thusfar she's been town

Well as I've said 50 times I think there hasn't been enough activity for decent roads but if I had to pick I'd say Dedenne and Bianca because usually Bianca posts by now, last scum game I remember (Caxnival which was over a year ago) she was inactive as well until she decided to counterclaim me as vig

 

[Dolby]

Well as I've said 50 times I think there hasn't been enough activity for decent roads but if I had to pick I'd say Dedenne and Bianca because usually Bianca posts by now, last scum game I remember (Caxnival which was over a year ago) she was inactive as well until she decided to counterclaim me as vig

Yeah, I will admit that scums vegging is something I have been considering and will continue to consider, and even recently said that we may be forced to vote between Dedenne and Bianca if neither show up in order to have a possibility of winning, but I don't like this. Bianca has been inactive yes, but has known her role for less than us, and a look at her profile will show that she's definetely inactive on TBT, both in the past 24 hours and in general. Holding that meta valid for Dedenne just feels wrong, and I really don't feel like that's valid meta given her play in recent games. That scumteam definetely could exist, but the reasons behind saying that it exists are disengenuous

I'm just gonna assume Dad's town honestly because frankly he could kill me tonight and power the game at this point. I do legitmately think that the effort he's put in looks particularly good for him, and would be townleaning him on that alone, but I have to adjust for the reality of what gives us a possibility of winning, much like we might have to choose between Dedenne and Bianca later

 

[cornimer]

Yeah, I will admit that scums vegging is something I have been considering and will continue to consider, and even recently said that we may be forced to vote between Dedenne and Bianca if neither show up in order to have a possibility of winning, but I don't like this. Bianca has been inactive yes, but has known her role for less than us, and a look at her profile will show that she's definetely inactive on TBT, both in the past 24 hours and in general. Holding that meta valid for Dedenne just feels wrong, and I really don't feel like that's valid meta given her play in recent games. That scumteam definetely could exist, but the reasons behind saying that it exists are disengenuous

I'm just gonna assume Dad's town honestly because frankly he could kill me tonight and power the game at this point. I do legitmately think that the effort he's put in looks particularly good for him, and would be townleaning him on that alone, but I have to adjust for the reality of what gives us a possibility of winning, much like we might have to choose between Dedenne and Bianca later

So if you think that scumteam could exist but you don't like my reasoning what would your reasoning be? Or who else would you say is the scumteam right now?
If we had more time, more posts and more players, I likely would not be voting for those two because I know we haven't seen very much from them but we don't have any of those things. I townlean Punchy and toads and kind of you, and Dad hasn't really done anything wrong. I don't like that its between Dedenne and Bianca but it is.

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Well as I've said 50 times I think there hasn't been enough activity for decent roads

Quick somebody get more mafia players or we'll all get flat tires

 

[Dolby]

So if you think that scumteam could exist but you don't like my reasoning what would your reasoning be? Or who else would you say is the scumteam right now?
If we had more time, more posts and more players, I likely would not be voting for those two because I know we haven't seen very much from them but we don't have any of those things. I townlean Punchy and toads and kind of you, and Dad hasn't really done anything wrong. I don't like that its between Dedenne and Bianca but it is.

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Quick somebody get more mafia players or we'll all get flat tires

Ok, that perspective is valid given those are your other reads. I still don't like your metaing on Dedenne ignoring her recent town play, but yeah, given those are your reads that's a valid perspective. Saying that Dedenne was following her scum meta to a T and different from her town meta wasn't though

 

[Geoni]

lol Dolby did report me, it's not gonna change anything I feel

...Dolby pls, yalls fight wasn't half as vicious as some I've seen.

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If we no lynch at any point we need mafia to kill flipper at night to win

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Yeah, I don't really like this, but if Dedenne is town and doesn't come back I think we're forced to lynch her anyway (same with Bianca) regardless of how we feel about her



This comment is ultimately damaging to us, but frankly I feel the need to say it, if you no lynch today and scum kills non-flipper tonight, all scum and flipper need to do is vote nl instantly and not kill until flipper flips to mafia. I think in what's effectively a 3v3 they'll know enough that it's safe to effectivly out




Personally, I consider Vanessa/Punchy to actually have some scum equity. Vanessa seems to be trying to steer Dad's sus off of Punchy and onto Dedenne, and she's forgetting to mention that Dedenne did almost the same thing as the last game that she played with her as town, Resistance mafia. Not saying that I think that but it's def an interesting connection



This is what I was hoping to see, but I really don't like the Bianca scum team comment because I really don't want to believe or think that you believe that Bianca is intentionally scum vegging after it being confirmed by Antonio that she didn't get her role PM

Yeah I eventually came to that realization that scum needs to kill the flipper for us to be rid of it I think. Because if they die from a lynch it means it was a mislynch and of course that's not good. It's kinda...delaying the inevitable kinda. If that makes sense.

But on the note of being forced to lynch Dedenne? Uh...no, nobody is forced to lynch x person? I'm weighing all the options and still think I'd rather see Punchy hung over Dedenne, Bianca over Vanessa, etc.

In terms of Punchy and Vanessa equity I can see it but also...others aren't suspecting Punchy either iirc and even seem to be townleaning him. I seem to be the only one who is suspecting him. What makes Vanessa different from those people? (who iirc was Toads and even you for a tonal moment)?

Also yeah I just realized...has Bianca posted since she said she didn't have her PM yet?

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ffs I'm just gonna have to read that Resistance game.

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7PM deadline tonight right?

 

[Dolby]

But on the note of being forced to lynch Dedenne? Uh...no, nobody is forced to lynch x person? I'm weighing all the options and still think I'd rather see Punchy hung over Dedenne, Bianca over Vanessa, etc.

I'm not gonna explain in full, but it depends on the flipper and when they flip and at what point they decide to scumside. If Dedenne and Bianca both don't vote we have to assume one is scum in order to have a chance of winning

In terms of Punchy and Vanessa equity I can see it but also...others aren't suspecting Punchy either iirc and even seem to be townleaning him. I seem to be the only one who is suspecting him. What makes Vanessa different from those people? (who iirc was Toads and even you for a tonal moment)?

Vanessa was going on Dedenne on meta reasons and it felt really disenguous and I forced her to admit it and shift to PoE (which I guess is a valid reason)

Also yeah I just realized...has Bianca posted since she said she didn't have her PM yet?

Nope

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Dedenne, I saw you online recently, who do you intend to vote?

 

[Geoni]

Sweet Jesus...this game. I think it's in everyone's best interest if ya'll forget the Resistence game happened, such a ****show from what I'm reading. But eh, if you have to extract something from this, I can understand the PoV that Dolby was super serious in this game and Dedenne was struggling with the setup and that's why the meta isn't super useful from it compared to this one. I also say forget it because I'm sensing a lot of out of game tension arose during this game and I can still see remnants of it here.

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https://www.belltreeforums.com/search.php?searchid=380928 here's Dedenne's post filter for hunger games for scum meta, I'm trying to find posts to prove my view on her town meta. But you can see from this that as scum she posted a lot of filler and apologies for not being active, and didn't really give opinions on anything

Link is giving me no matches.