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mixed bag is probably a better way to put it than not-AI, yeah. essentially i don't think it's a good enough reason for people to townread her bc she could easily do this as either alignment
and yes i find it contradictory. she said she was expecting her claim to start up a mafia wagon on her and indicated that she thought that was going to happen by reiterating the point, but is also slamming anyone who townreads her? i'm just not really sure what way she expected this to play out
I'm not dying on this Aerious townlean hill but I've yet to be knocked off today. I see what you're saying about it being contradictory to an extent but she didn't push either of us as someone Volt should lynch and that's just someone having the takeaway she wasn't expecting and bringing it into question. Have you been scum with her before or something, that one game radical was hosting?
4) As a king if the majority wants someone lynched that you do not will you go against it?
uuuuh yes. I'm the Queen, I do what I want. If I make a mistake, so be it, I'd like to see someone else have a perfect track record.
i messed up the quote formatting but you catch my drift. also no never been scum with aerious but i know her and her meta pretty well
i think she's doing a bit more than 'bringing it into question'. if you scumlean her, it's mafia starting a wagon bc she's lhf bc of her claim. if you townlean her you're getting attacked
idk
@Geoni
I said I wanted to be shown someone with a perfect track record (as in me saying that such was impossible)
You asked what I meant by perfect track record
I clarified that a "perfect track record" meant someone who never voted to lynch a townie.
What about this is me claiming that I have a perfect track record? It's the opposite. It's me saying NO-ONE has one.
Epona I said right from the getgo that I don't find the lie AI because it just has to do with wanting to be crowned. And she's saying she wasn't lying!
What she was saying is she has a perfect track record right there and should be crowned even though there's a chance for mistakes, and then posted what I quoted as a clarification, which then had to be further clarified as it apply to her more recent self.
Epona I said right from the getgo that I don't find the lie AI because it just has to do with wanting to be crowned. And she's saying she wasn't lying!
What she was saying is she has a perfect track record right there and should be crowned even though there's a chance for mistakes, and then posted what I quoted as a clarification, which then had to be further clarified as it apply to her more recent self.
no i genuinely think you're just misunderstanding what she meant bc when i first read it i understood it as meaning that she's not going to beat herself up if she makes a mistake as queen bc nobody has a perfect track record
Epona I said right from the getgo that I don't find the lie AI because it just has to do with wanting to be crowned. And she's saying she wasn't lying!
What she was saying is she has a perfect track record right there and should be crowned even though there's a chance for mistakes, and then posted what I quoted as a clarification, which then had to be further clarified as it apply to her more recent self.
You are... blowing this completely out of proportion? This is not what I said AT ALL.
I. DID NOT. SAY. I HAVE A PERFECT TRACK RECORD.
I SAID NO-ONE DOES.
@Geoni
I said I wanted to be shown someone with a perfect track record (as in me saying that such was impossible)
You asked what I meant by perfect track record
I clarified that a "perfect track record" meant someone who never voted to lynch a townie.
What about this is me claiming that I have a perfect track record? It's the opposite. It's me saying NO-ONE has one.
If you're still around are there people you would be against lynching so far? We're still in the first half of the day so I understand asking who you would is too quick for a lot of people but feel free to list those too if you're there yet.
-Epona for now. Epona has been contributing the same way Epona always contributes and while that's a good thing for now, I also now Epona can make decent arguments and draw logical conclusions as scummy scum scum so that could change. -Volt, not that we could lynch today anyway
-Sidney is clearly trying and I'd like to give 'em a bit more of a chance to get into things so would prefer maybe not them
-I guess I should say Ness and Ace because of that team thing but I will turn on them the second I think I need to
Other than that... eh? I honestly don't even remember who is and who isn't in this game right now I am not properly equipped to answer this question.
If you're still around are there people you would be against lynching so far? We're still in the first half of the day so I understand asking who you would is too quick for a lot of people but feel free to list those too if you're there yet.
not really
like there are a lot of people that would just be dumb lynch choices bc there's no reason to do it but that's pretty much the entire player list lol, i think it's too early to say
if i had to choose people to pull out of the lynch pool today i'd probably say dinotown, bc i think she's probably just town, and maybe shawo, bc i think they're just playing the way they always do
those are not confident townleans at all tho i need to see more
'literally don't claim at all' should also have applied to yourself if u ask me
...then why did u do it
on another point it's interesting that aerious brought up in her big claim post that this would probably make her low-hanging fruit for a mafia wagon, and she also re-quoted it to reiterate it, but at the same time is jumping down the throat of everyone who townreads her?? (ness and geoni iirc)
i honestly don't think this 'strategy' is AI, it could be town for reasons other people have already said before but i can literally in my mind visualise aerious bringing this up in the mafia quicktopic lol
i'm surprised every single game you've come to bat against me. i'm allowed to ask why people are townreading me so easily -- if i were mafia i'd parrot and highlight their answers, not doubt them if you're comparing my meta. rn i'm low hanging fruit and townreading me/talking about me is a waste of time and energy for d1. it's cheap to hop on a wagon bc i made a risky play, which goes against what u've said in radical's game for those who freely jump on/start wagons. NO ONE has cc'd wario specifically. i've mentioned why i did it and it did nothing because shawo did the same thing anyways. his play to do so is chaotic and wildly anti-town. claiming green here is less detrimental than claiming blue (sub hero) for nk possibilities. watcher and doctor need to live, km staying alive is another town surviving
and yes i find it contradictory. she said she was expecting her claim to start up a mafia wagon on her and indicated that she thought that was going to happen by reiterating the point, but is also slamming anyone who townreads her? i'm just not really sure what way she expected this to play out
1. obviously i wasn't going to start a wagon on me after i mentioned it. mafia are going to avoid me after that like the plague if they're not confident enough to build any case vs. me. sole mention was for reaction testing if i survive late game if i'm kept alive for the reason of building a case
2. dino is scumleaning. that post clearly insinuated they've never hit wrong in order to try to be kinged and then thrashing by saying it meant something else (that no one is perfect ???). if i were KM i'd avoid dino like the plague
3. i don't want to be kinged bc all i can do is read. hopefully it hits watcher that has some information w/o having to claim
i'm surprised every single game you've come to bat against me. i'm allowed to ask why people are townreading me so easily -- if i were mafia i'd parrot and highlight their answers, not doubt them if you're comparing my meta. rn i'm low hanging fruit and townreading me/talking about me is a waste of time and energy for d1. it's cheap to hop on a wagon bc i made a risky play, which goes against what u've said in radical's game for those who freely jump on/start wagons. NO ONE has cc'd wario specifically. i've mentioned why i did it and it did nothing because shawo did the same thing anyways. his play to do so is chaotic and wildly anti-town. claiming green here is less detrimental than claiming blue (sub hero) for nk possibilities. watcher and doctor need to live, km staying alive is another town surviving
regardless,
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1. obviously i wasn't going to start a wagon on me after i mentioned it. mafia are going to avoid me after that like the plague if they're not confident enough to build any case vs. me. sole mention was for reaction testing if i survive late game if i'm kept alive for the reason of building a case
2. dino is scumleaning. that post clearly insinuated they've never hit wrong in order to try to be kinged and then thrashing by saying it meant something else (that no one is perfect ???). if i were KM i'd avoid dino like the plague
3. i don't want to be kinged bc all i can do is read. hopefully it hits watcher that has some information w/o having to claim
1. first bolded point, i think it's just bc our playstyles are wildly different so i struggle to see things from the same perspective as you
2. the 'if i were mafia i'd...' is pure wifom and not worth much. btw i never said you were mafia i'm just saying i'm not townreading you for your claim and i don't think others should either
3. i haven't hopped on or a started a wagon on you? i was literally just commenting on what had happened in the game while i was asleep, the majority of which was you and your claim
4. regarding CCing wario, it would be extremely stupid to fakeclaim a character that is most definitely in the game, and i do not underestimate ur intelligence to think that you would do that. obviously nobody is going to CC bc i have no doubt that you are wario i just don't know whether wario is green or not. that's pretty common sense
5. making sure that nobody claimed blue could have been accomplished literally by saying 'ok nobody claim blue' i just don't get why your elaborate green-claim strategy was necessary or why it would stop anyone claiming blue, i just don't think claiming was needed but it's done now so w/e
6. on the dino thing, i really am not buying it. it was obvious to me what she meant, which is what she's explained already. that was the meaning i got on first reading so i think this is genuinely just a mix up of words/misunderstanding and definitely not a decent reason for people to scumread her
1. first bolded point, i think it's just bc our playstyles are wildly different so i struggle to see things from the same perspective as you
2. the 'if i were mafia i'd...' is pure wifom and not worth much. btw i never said you were mafia i'm just saying i'm not townreading you for your claim and i don't think others should either
3. i haven't hopped on or a started a wagon on you? i was literally just commenting on what had happened in the game while i was asleep, the majority of which was you and your claim
4. regarding CCing wario, it would be extremely stupid to fakeclaim a character that is most definitely in the game, and i do not underestimate ur intelligence to think that you would do that. obviously nobody is going to CC bc i have no doubt that you are wario i just don't know whether wario is green or not. that's pretty common sense
5. making sure that nobody claimed blue could have been accomplished literally by saying 'ok nobody claim blue' i just don't get why your elaborate green-claim strategy was necessary or why it would stop anyone claiming blue, i just don't think claiming was needed but it's done now so w/e
6. on the dino thing, i really am not buying it. it was obvious to me what she meant, which is what she's explained already. that was the meaning i got on first reading so i think this is genuinely just a mix up of words/misunderstanding and definitely not a decent reason for people to scumread her
i never said u started a wagon against me, just that my point of being low hanging fruit d1/cheap wagon is being questioned. was jw why i'm always mentioned first. if volt flips maf, think the insinuation that i'm correct bc characters aren't aligning w/ roles. eventually game will reach a point where people fakeclaim characters and their roles
was just trying to avoid nonsense, nonsense wasn't avoided. at the v least there's comparative statements for late game
but why is she trying so hard to be kinged so early on? it makes no sense for anyone to gun for king d1 because there's no info to go off of d2. even watcher would have to get lucky bc 8 townies. mafia being kinged is an easy way to knock out town while being able to argue omgus when wrong
i never said u started a wagon against me, just that my point of being low hanging fruit d1/cheap wagon is being questioned. was jw why i'm always mentioned first. if volt flips maf, think the insinuation that i'm correct bc characters aren't aligning w/ roles. eventually game will reach a point where people fakeclaim characters and their roles
was just trying to avoid nonsense, nonsense wasn't avoided. at the v least there's comparative statements for late game
but why is she trying so hard to be kinged so early on? it makes no sense for anyone to gun for king d1 because there's no info to go off of d2. even watcher would have to get lucky bc 8 townies. mafia being kinged is an easy way to knock out town while being able to argue omgus when wrong
bc u always pull crazy dramatic stunts like this and i am always left pikachu surprise face memeing
i don't see where dino is trying hard to be kinged? she answered geo's RQS the exact same as everyone else did. literally all she said was if she makes a mistake oh well everyone does
we're gonna go round in circles on this either way, i consider the dino matter resolved
Hello everyone I just woke up and gotta be out most of the day but I just have two quick questions: Does the King change after every Night phase?
And is the first King randomly selected or were they appointed by Km?
wow somehow I catch up really quickly, anni really broke me.
I wouldn't go to Dino immediately , but the fact that her comment on the Charlie's angels team is worrisome, if Dino is already ready to turn on us. Just something to remember.
