Mafia Into the MarioVerse Kingmaker- Mafia Win!

[Sidney]

@Sidney you being new is a great advantage since you don't have to deal with meta, do you have any suspicion on someone?

So far I’ve got my eyes on 4: Shawo, Aerious, Fleshy, and Dino

I’m susp of a couple of messages from them, though I’m not sure how they normally play

I went through and made notes this morning and at the moment i think epona, ace, and glow are town

But I’m not completely set on these opinions quite yet

 

[shawo]

no one can stop me, viva la revolucione

 

[epona]

You're oddly flustered by this, the only people that questioned you were me/glow and Aerious piggy backed off it into some other weird point. Who thinks you're public enemy #1?


Which Aerious reaction specifically did you feel you wanted to change direction from?

i'm not flustered, i just think it's dumb that i have to explain something that was a flippant comment that's being read more into. however i have taken ppl's reasons for disliking what i said into account

my interaction with her, it was just us and maybe one other person active in the thread at the time and we were replying to each other quite quickly, i felt we were going around in circles bc it was going back to the dino thing which dino and i had both already resolved with geoni. i was getting frustrated with aerious' reasoning but i could tell it would turn into something not great if it kept being pressed so i wanted to derail from a potential argument, but then the argument just ended up happening with dino instead

it goes beyond a natural tendency since statistically speaking flipping mafia twice IS the least likely outcome. so the reason for it being my point to call attention to is that its fallacious logic to mention as well as potentially lending itself to being useful for mafia depending on what's said (i.e. not everyone is active in the discord server or is a member/not everyone was spectating last game/etc.)

tl;dr for what was anti-town:

1. you're aware that it doesn't actually mean anything about KM or volt
2. it opens up further speculation for who KM is



i wouldn't say you're public enemy #1 though i think aerious was the only person to say anything, then i did but didn't notice aerious had already pointed it out.

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oh ness did too apparently huh

the second point i understand. the first i think is moot bc like you said, it doesn't mean anything about KM or volt
anyway this is rlly all i have to say on it

 

[DinoTown]

Time to decide if I stay up let to see Volt's judgement

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*late

 

[Ace Marvel]

So far I’ve got my eyes on 4: Shawo, Aerious, Fleshy, and Dino

I’m susp of a couple of messages from them, though I’m not sure how they normally play

I went through and made notes this morning and at the moment i think epona, ace, and glow are town

But I’m not completely set on these opinions quite yet

Awesome, I also see a wolf in Shawo/Aerious but not really w/w
Fleshy will look into
But Dino is more town lean for me atm.

 

[Fleshy]

So far I’ve got my eyes on 4: Shawo, Aerious, Fleshy, and Dino

I’m susp of a couple of messages from them, though I’m not sure how they normally play

I went through and made notes this morning and at the moment i think epona, ace, and glow are town

But I’m not completely set on these opinions quite yet

Can I ask why you have your eyes on those you do? What messages in particular? Any elaboration is helpful.

Town Town Town, but crazy.

Are you ready for me? if so yeah why not, town better stay together.

I will never be scum, by now I think I'm auto town and then my role gets rand to see if I get a pr.

Also I agree with Epona, million reasons, even if it is someone that played last game, it's a new one. Is like me being auto lock town from the start just because I've never been mafia. If there was a reason for Volt to be King today we all will know in due time.

My suspisions are growing here. Constantly dropping mention of being town, or never been mafia in the past makes me raise a few eyebrows, the first mention I get, but otherwise it really just seems like you're trying to plant a subtle seed into people's mind that you're town by mentioning it so frequently. I'm generally unfamiliar with your play, but this along with suggesting Shawo be executed based on so little just doesn't sit completley right with me.

 

[DinoTown]

My suspisions are growing here. Constantly dropping mention of being town, or never been mafia in the past makes me raise a few eyebrows, the first mention I get, but otherwise it really just seems like you're trying to plant a subtle seed into people's mind that you're town by mentioning it so frequently. I'm generally unfamiliar with your play, but this along with suggesting Shawo be executed based on so little just doesn't sit completley right with me.

Imma be honest with you, that's just Teddy. A player bringing up something irrelevant a lot of times is only really a bad thing if it's detracting from the actual conversation that is useful which this isn't.

 

[Sidney]

Can I ask why you have your eyes on those you do? What messages in particular? Any elaboration is helpful.

Shawo- the character claiming thing + (unless I missed something, which is entirely probable) questioning dino w/o really any susp stuff
Aerious- similar reasoning

Awesome, I also see a wolf in Shawo/Aerious but not really w/w
Fleshy will look into
But Dino is more town lean for me atm.

Like I’m assuming ace was also saying here, I don’t think they’re both mafia but I do have suspicions one is may be

You, fleshy, for slightly defending Shawo in earlier discussion (possible mafia buddies ?)

I’ll have to look back for why dino was on my watchlist because I literally wrote “hm” in my notes

 

[Fleshy]

Imma be honest with you, that's just Teddy. A player bringing up something irrelevant a lot of times is only really a bad thing if it's detracting from the actual conversation that is useful which this isn't.

Understandable, it's been so long since I've played here and honestly should have read upon a few more games to gauge players' meta before just throwing myself right back into it

 

[shawo]

If you nominate me as king I give a promise to instantly lynch Ace!

This is my campaign!

Yeah I agree with ace and potentially dino as a team.

 

[glow]

If you nominate me as king I give a promise to instantly lynch Ace!

This is my campaign!

Yeah I agree with ace and potentially dino as a team.

why do you think they're teamed

 

[shawo]

I didn't question anyone. I am asserting.

I am asserting to you that I read these people as mafia.

The king needs not speak to plebians.

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Well, if they're both mafia they naturally have to be teamed. If they weren't teamed they couldn't both be mafia.
Duh.

I think ace is more mafia than dino town for what it's worth.

 

[N e s s]

Hm. I think I believe that Epona is being truthful in that the comment was only meant to change the subject, but parts of her defense post doesn't really vibe with me. My gut is telling me that she was really thrown off guard over several people calling her scummy, and that got to her a little bit in terms of pressure. These things here give me the vibe she is self-aware about how she is being perceived:

i'm also not an idiot i know how maths works, but there's a natural tendency to be like 'oh what are the chances that volt is scum twice in a row' even if that's not how actual probability works out. that is literally all i was saying. it doesn't go any deeper than that lmfao

also like i said this is being read far too much into i was literally just noting the coincidence, there's a million reasons why volt could be king. sorry i posted it i didn't realise it would make me public enemy #1 but i also think it's being blown out of proportion here

Whether or not this was her intention, it feels to me like she was nervous being called scummy, even though the point in question is something she has argued was a "flippant comment." This is taking into account glow is generally... scary (?) when she scumleans you, lol. It feels like an odd break in character from what I know about Epona, considering that every accusation made on her in Radicals game she confidently snapped back at the accuser. I don't get that from this interaction here.

I think I mostly like her other content so far though? All she's particularly done is argue with Aerious and call her scummy so idk. I think that my opinion of her is going to be dependent on what she does until EoD so we'll see

 

[glow]

I’ll have to look back for why dino was on my watchlist because I literally wrote “hm” in my notes

shout out to Sidney for easily the towniest post in the entire thread

 

[N e s s]

shout out to Sidney for easily the towniest post in the entire thread

Yeah I think that Sidney is town for that post as well now that you point it out. Penny for your thoughts on my post above?

 

[epona]

Hm. I think I believe that Epona is being truthful in that the comment was only meant to change the subject, but parts of her defense post doesn't really vibe with me. My gut is telling me that she was really thrown off guard over several people calling her scummy, and that got to her a little bit in terms of pressure. These things here give me the vibe she is self-aware about how she is being perceived:




Whether or not this was her intention, it feels to me like she was nervous being called scummy, even though the point in question is something she has argued was a "flippant comment." This is taking into account glow is generally... scary (?) when she scumleans you, lol. It feels like an odd break in character from what I know about Epona, considering that every accusation made on her in Radicals game she confidently snapped back at the accuser. I don't get that from this interaction here.

I think I mostly like her other content so far though? All she's particularly done is argue with Aerious and call her scummy so idk. I think that my opinion of her is going to be dependent on what she does until EoD so we'll see

prob because when people (read:you) accused me in radical's game it was for stuff that was blatantly just wrong/nonsense. in this case i do take into account, in hindsight, that i prob just shouldn't have posted it at all. hard to confidently clap back when you are accepting responsibility

still think it's being read into too much. i wouldn't say my reaction is nervousness, i was just genuinely confused & a bit frustrated that a comment i pretty much forgot i'd made had produced so much discussion while i was gone for dinner

 

[glow]

ace do

I see, okay. I will later on cuz work.

retweet

 

[Ace Marvel]

Upupupupu

Shawo please you are better than this. Won't even argue my forever town status, since it's pretty clear to the point that when I die no one is gonna even be surprised.

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ace do

retweet

getting out of work in about an hour, but honestly I can't see where to go, this game has been so bogus.

 

[epona]

also @N e s s i have a pretty recent and very thorough scum meta in squeaky clean mafia, where trundle was sussing me and geo was (quite INSISTENTLY) bussing me for the entire game so you can cross ref with that if you want

i don't really react badly/flailingly to pressure (I also wouldn't go as far as to call this pressure) so i think ur seeing something that isn't there

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i really need to see more from unravel

 

[glow]

Yeah I think that Sidney is town for that post as well now that you point it out. Penny for your thoughts on my post above?

i didn't scumlean epona though i said she made an antitown post, which is just true.

i guess epona conceded that too so meh. i noticed a tonal shift too but not an AI one