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Mafia Into the MarioVerse Kingmaker- Mafia Win!

I kinda like this because I had the same train of thought earlier, she kind of shut me down from talking about it more though.
you can talk about things, don't feel pressured bc people shut you down. it's a valid point -- assuming probability makes 0 sense when maf is rng every game
 
you can talk about things, don't feel pressured bc people shut you down. it's a valid point -- assuming probability makes 0 sense when maf is rng every game
It's not really a case in that I felt pressured to not say anything (because I did), it's that she just kinda ignored what I had to say for some reason. I made a rebuttal here:
How's it a reach to try and get a read on you, Annie? The point being is there is no point in making comments such as that, don't know why you're being defensive over this.
So, I do agree with glow in that this is the scummiest thing that Epona has said so far. I think it's common sense not to try and speculate on the Kingmaker's identity, whether she meant to or not, and I can see her making this comment after it being on her mind for a while. I do find it a little more jarring considering that Epona had no reason to point this out in the first place, as in the previous page she was just arguing with you.
 
Please don't act like I was saying it was an excuse to insult people, I was pointing out my defensiveness.

Given I've already intervened with the game once, and quoted the message you're referring to in my post, I'm going to suggest that you let this go and carry on with the game.
 
It's not really a case in that I felt pressured to not say anything (because I did), it's that she just kinda ignored what I had to say for some reason. I made a rebuttal here:

So, I do agree with glow in that this is the scummiest thing that Epona has said so far. I think it's common sense not to try and speculate on the Kingmaker's identity, whether she meant to or not, and I can see her making this comment after it being on her mind for a while. I do find it a little more jarring considering that Epona had no reason to point this out in the first place, as in the previous page she was just arguing with you.
my qualm with what she said is that it rules her out as km, especially with me already making the stupid play to out my role as townie. it narrows down the pool for mafia, which imo is an anti-town play
 
Epona isn't mechanically clear as the KM so it's not really helpful to say "that's it, it's not Epona"

Although I don't blame Epona for wondering out loud what KM's motive for picking Volt is. Given how Volt has reacted to the nomination, they may be wondering the exact same thing themselves. Volt you're doing amazing sweetie
 
Epona isn't mechanically clear as the KM so it's not really helpful to say "that's it, it's not Epona"

Although I don't blame Epona for wondering out loud what KM's motive for picking Volt is. Given how Volt has reacted to the nomination, they may be wondering the exact same thing themselves. Volt you're doing amazing sweetie
it makes no logical sense for km to theorize km's motives publicly, and i think epona's choice would've been more methodical than on volt for the sole reason of probability (bc it's not applicable here). obviously nothing against volt as king, but i can't see any scenario where it makes sense
 
it makes no logical sense for km to theorize km's motives publicly
WIFOM. The KM doesn't want to be found and killed, so publicly theorizing throws you off. Publicly saying "it's not Epona" is a problem because it narrows down the pool of who to go for to get the KM for the mafia - as you rightly said. So trying to clear Epona of the role now on D1 when there's no mechanical proof of such a thing isn't beneficial.

Talking about roles full stop D1 isn't beneficial. Why do we keep coming back to the roles talk? Question for everyone there.
 
WIFOM. The KM doesn't want to be found and killed, so publicly theorizing throws you off. Publicly saying "it's not Epona" is a problem because it narrows down the pool of who to go for to get the KM for the mafia - as you rightly said. So trying to clear Epona of the role now on D1 when there's no mechanical proof of such a thing isn't beneficial.

Talking about roles full stop D1 isn't beneficial. Why do we keep coming back to the roles talk? Question for everyone there.
you're right, but imo it's scummy as hell still. obviously i'm theorizing and we don't know
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but i do still think epona wouldn't theorize or draw attention to herself if it were the case bc it doesn't deflect if people do think wifom. it's too big of a risk. it's why i'm not against the scumleans
 
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We have to consider that during the game, if the King role ends in mafia hands, they can just vote for a town and end the day. Not saying volt, but we have to be careful, because voting is in a different thread.
 
We have to consider that during the game, if the King role ends in mafia hands, they can just vote for a town and end the day. Not saying volt, but we have to be careful, because voting is in a different thread.
You're right, but that's gonna be a tactic saved for endgame time because doing it while there's town left to be made King the following day, it's gonna be a bit heckin obvious who to lynch
 
Or not endgame-endgame. If they have enough of the mafia members left to spare and just really need to get rid of a couple town then it could happen then. Buuut it's not something we need to worry about right now.
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I think dino is mafia cuz they have really awkward posts.
Care to elaborate?
 
Outing the KM serves us nothing.
True, but a motion tracker doesn't normally get told the role. If KM "visited" someone who also got visited by mafia, they'd die. If the tracker followed the KM, it would appear to the tracker as if the KM killed 'em. Also roleblockers says "all actions but kingmaker selection may be blocked" implying it could be. So I don't think it's a terrible question. Unless this is Shawo's attempt at softclaiming the tracker. Then it's a bad question.
 
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