Mafia Into the MarioVerse Kingmaker- Mafia Win!

[bell account]

looool

 

[Aerious]

ah yes ness needs more time to write his thoughts out. same thing he did as mafia. same attack on shawo he did as mafia. either throwing town or mafia

anyways, i’ve shared my thoughts

 

[N e s s]

saying you’re sorry isn’t enough accountability for someone actually town to take. threatening to not play mafia again for your own actions makes no sense. people are upset, with good reason, bc there’s a huge potential of our watcher dying. don’t appeal to me about what i know about you when i know as mafia you’re more than willing to write a post/pick an argument with shawo


just shut up and flip maf. this isn’t a misplay. this was a throw or a mafia play. your reasoning is so lackluster i truly believe you’re acting inept whether you flip maf or town

Why are you trying to silence people when they're trying to get a read on you, like seriously what is your problem? How hard is it for you to take any shred of my word that I made a mistake, but you keep spamming I'm "anti-town"

Ugh

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ah yes ness needs more time to write his thoughts out. same thing he did as mafia. same attack on shawo he did as mafia. either throwing town or mafia

anyways, i’ve shared my thoughts

I can't type at lightning speed you realize that right

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the toxicity is real these days

 

[bell account]

exactly. people can’t see beyond their own noses to understand i’m not foolish enough to play chaotically without intention. i strictly try to provide reaction tests/information to compare to for late game, and i say a lot of nonsense to see how people respond. i chose to out AS TOWNIE instead of killing off the most important role for town. there’s been loads of double standards thus far against me, and i can’t tell if inept town or mafia

glow, i love u so much. thank u for not being a sheep and actually having a brain to critically think

you chose to out as townie to narrow the pool of potential prs for wolves to kill from
i just cant follow your galaxy brain play youre right

 

[Aerious]

Why are you trying to silence people when they're trying to get a read on you, like seriously what is your problem? How hard is it for you to take any shred of my word that I made a mistake, but you keep spamming I'm "anti-town"

Ugh

people have read me this entire game. quit deflecting just bc you’ve been caught as scum. you didn’t just make a mistake if you flip town, you actively threw the game bc of your spat with shawo to try and scumlean him

you chose to out as townie to narrow the pool of potential prs for wolves to kill from
i just cant follow your galaxy brain play youre right

and he outed our watcher. your brain is the equivalent of people who take an online iq test, score 120, and start acting foolishly in /r/iamverysmart. your logic doesn’t follow and it’s proven hypocritical. if it’s between us, you should be more willing to kill the person who OUTED THE WATCHER DIRECTLY, but you’re not. it’s pathetic

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the toxicity is real these days

toxicity isn’t me building a case to have you eliminated. your defense has been lackluster if you flip town

 

[Damniel]

hi there are ways to debate while avoiding personal attacks. i’ll have to remove players if things escalate

thanks

 

[Fleshy]

saying you’re sorry isn’t enough accountability for someone actually town to take. threatening to not play mafia again for your own actions makes no sense. people are upset, with good reason, bc there’s a huge potential of our watcher dying. don’t appeal to me about what i know about you when i know as mafia you’re more than willing to write a post/pick an argument with shawo

just shut up and flip maf. this isn’t a misplay. this was a throw or a mafia play. your reasoning is so lackluster i truly believe you’re acting inept whether you flip maf or town

It is reasonable to be upset, but at this point we haven't progressed at all today other than going back and forth with Ness. I'm likely to die, if not tonight then tomorrow. That's going to happen regardless, so just repeating the same thing about me outing/being outed is pointless, we're no closer to finding scum. Again, it's partially on me for not holding off anyway (although it's not like I didn't spend time contemplating what to do). If Ness is lynched and flips town it shouldn't be a case of "oh well, he played bad and got our watcher killed so whatever", that thinking doesn't help town one bit, if he's VT he's as valuable as the rest of town and we should be directing all this time and energy elsewhere. We only have a few hours left before EOD.

 

[Aerious]

It is reasonable to be upset, but at this point we haven't progressed at all today other than going back and forth with Ness. I'm likely to die, if not tonight then tomorrow. That's going to happen regardless, so just repeating the same thing about me outing/being outed is pointless, we're no closer to finding scum. Again, it's partially on me for not holding off anyway (although it's not like I didn't spend time contemplating what to do). If Ness is lynched and flips town it shouldn't be a case of "oh well, he played bad and got our watcher killed so whatever", that thinking doesn't help town one bit, if he's VT he's as valuable as the rest of town and we should be directing all this time and energy elsewhere. We only have a few hours left before EOD.

if he's vt he just threw the game BY killing you. i'm repeating myself because i truly believe ness is going to flip mafia, and i'm surprised people can't comprehend how what he did was scummy. this isn't a case of "oh misplay :/ aw he played bad :/" this is either:
1. a throw
2. mafia play
and either way it should be tested. town is going to be unable to trust ness again, and i'd be surprised if he wound up being vt

 

[bell account]

and he outed our watcher. your brain is the equivalent of people who take an online iq test, score 120, and start acting foolishly in /r/iamverysmart. your logic doesn’t follow and it’s proven hypocritical. if it’s between us, you should be more willing to kill the person who OUTED THE WATCHER DIRECTLY, but you’re not. it’s pathetic

youre berating the game at large for being unable to distinguish playstyle from alignment but fail to recognize that my playstyle and focus on improvement is weighting your read

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If Ness is lynched and flips town it shouldn't be a case of "oh well, he played bad and got our watcher killed so whatever", that thinking doesn't help town one bit

+1

 

[Aerious]

youre berating the game at large for being unable to distinguish playstyle from alignment but fail to recognize that my playstyle and focus on improvement is weighting your read

explain then pls. you've made a lot of claims and rebuttals without arguing your reasoning, and i still don't understand why you're willing to sacrifice me instead of the one who forced watcher out

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+1

once again: willing to sacrifice me instead of the one who forced out watcher. doesn't make a lot of sense imo

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whereas i've made claims and backed up my reasoning. as @glow stated, not making a lot of sense why @guav@ is willing to give ness the benefit of the doubt, but actively willing to sacrifice me. same with you, @bell account

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im good with aerious

bringing this up again

 

[bell account]

in fairness to ness the watcher claim was premature, but its a misplay id expect 90% of players to make anyway

 

[Aerious]

in fairness to ness the watcher claim was premature, but its a misplay id expect 90% of players to make anyway

right, anyways

vote:aerious

and claiming vt is actually grounds for a policy lynch on some forums so yeah i wouldnt feel guilty over a vt flip there

the super secret towntell is alive again oh yeah
and claiming vt is actually grounds for a policy lynch on some forums so yeah i wouldnt feel guilty over a vt flip there

fake claiming in an open setup is equivalent to baiting blues unfortunately

this is the justification that i hate
i want to be better than blaming someone for killing them and not just shrug it off with "oh they played badly what can you do"
if ness is a wolf then thats what i lynch them for, not for misplaying
this is the only part of your post i care about your reading comprehension is still lacking so

the hypocrisy towards the differentiation between ness and i doesn't make any sense -- same as @guav@
km, please king glow if you care about town succeeding

i've built a case, defended my points, yet you still haven't explained any of your reasoning while latching onto @epona

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first quote was 2 merging as one

 

[bell account]

explain then pls. you've made a lot of claims and rebuttals without arguing your reasoning, and i still don't understand why you're willing to sacrifice me instead of the one who forced watcher out

trading a scumbud for a watcher even if it's the only investigative in the game is -ev for wolves i dont believe its a correct play for them
in this instance in particular, ness as a wolf apparently has the idea that shawo is the watcher and is gambling on that to be true
the thing is that if you think shawo is the watcher why do you kill dinotown and not shawo
the suggestion that this is a mafia play makes less sense to me overall than a failed hero play from town
is this enough facts and logic for you as i repeat myself for probably the fourth time

its worth noting that ness behavior after the fact was pretty wolfy. i just have to assume that either an individual player misplayed or an entire team of players misplayed badly

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once again: willing to sacrifice me instead of the one who forced out watcher. doesn't make a lot of sense imo

ness is more of a policy lynch youre just wolfy
i know i talked about policy lynching vt claims but i never said i would do that, the only policy lynch i make is for roleplay

 

[Aerious]

trading a scumbud for a watcher even if it's the only investigative in the game is -ev for wolves i dont believe its a correct play for them
in this instance in particular, ness as a wolf apparently has the idea that shawo is the watcher and is gambling on that to be true
the thing is that if you think shawo is the watcher why do you kill dinotown and not shawo
the suggestion that this is a mafia play makes less sense to me overall than a failed hero play from town
is this enough facts and logic for you as i repeat myself for probably the fourth time

its worth noting that ness behavior after the fact was pretty wolfy. i just have to assume that either an individual player misplayed or an entire team of players misplayed badly

you're putting a lot of stock in tbt mafia. we make a lot of mistakes on both sides. i think ness' decision making was to keep shawo alive to frame -- which was the same decision he made when he was mafia with me. he made the same mistake of picking an argument with shawo in that game too, which is high risk. this is the first time that you've actually thoroughly explained, btw

regardless, i would genuinely be surprised if ness wound up as town. just forced this game into wifom if he is

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also want to note that shawo did the same thing in that game by claiming blue, he was kept alive to frame his claim. that's why i can't get on board w/ it not being a wolfy play

 

[bell account]

it really isnt the first time i explained it, i had this whole thing with epona but were splitting hairs

has ness pulled fps like this in the past as either alignment

 

[Aerious]

has ness pulled fps like this in the past as either alignment

i've only seen ness as mafia, which he absolutely did fps. he even referred to us elaborately scheming. i can't attest to townplay though

 

[Damniel]

Geoni has requested to be removed from the game. A replacement will be sought after. Until then, the slot cannot be executed have any actions performed on it

 

[Aerious]

Geoni has requested to be removed from the game. A replacement will be sought after. Until then, the slot cannot be executed have any actions performed on it

 

[N e s s]

it would be really funny if I was kinged tomorrow tbh

from my pov I feel like that dog in the burning house saying "this is fine" except the fire is aerious/shawo/glow/whoever either telling me I threw or I'm anti town every few minutes

 

[Ace Marvel]

Geoni has requested to be removed from the game. A replacement will be sought after. Until then, the slot cannot be executed have any actions performed on it

Understood! :/