Mafia Into the MarioVerse Kingmaker- Mafia Win!

[g u a v a]

hm.. i also just realized that we have to potentially make it past two roleblockers, because of the backup role. we rlly need to hit maf today

 

[Aerious]

hm.. i also just realized that we have to potentially make it past two roleblockers, because of the backup role. we rlly need to hit maf today

rb is going to be useless when watcher dies. hero is only for poe vote

 

[glow]

idk why i'm being lumped in here, i have never expressed anything close to 'idc lynch me', i'm actively trying to address suspicions on me because i don't want to be mislynched

like i am actively trying to progress the game so idk if this was a mistake or if you're vastly misreading me here

u didn't explicitly ask for death but u were quoting ness when he was all Let Me Die

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omg i didn't press submit i wasn't done

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Mafia - Into the MarioVerse Kingmaker- Mafia Win!

Crazy theory, since Daniel is Walugui, could war be a fakeclaim? Also I like stars - Starlow lol

www.belltreeforums.com

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i literally said a million times yesterday that i was townreading ness

i actually just don't care anymore if i'm not gonna be listened to it's w/e do whatever

and here. it's just the general apathy.

 

[Aerious]

i missed this. where was it?

@glow it was in response to this

 

[glow]

Glow please don’t lynch early

Also tomorrow can we crown like Volt or something and majority vote, it’s way too annoying kissing at kings feet when the consensus seems to be the opposite of what they think lol

yeah i won't idk

 

[Aerious]

i'm fine w/ ness going today tbh
hopefully someone bothers rereading to comb thru

 

[glow]

@glow it was in response to this

OH nvm i understand the context of the quoting. mb epona

 

[Aerious]

honestly i don't see any world where guava flips town

• insta lock on me for low hanging fruit -- which happened janitorial when uncc'd orc and flailing doc claim to 1:1. attached onto the thought of dino v. me being t v. m and attached onto the thought of me throwing from this game
• obvious scum play of contributing the most when sussed
• very little contribution to game discussion, usually spam/one liners/latching herself onto the thoughts of others w/ +1 agreement
• swap today from "you're willing to kill two townies?" and defending ness yesterday to scumreading ness
• white text after complaint about white text by unravel softing role

pls don't make me iso specific statements

i don't think volt is mafia because dino died the day after volt SL

istg dan if you put minor enemy from super mario bros 2 but not geno

but this, with ness liking it, makes me confused what's going to happen. keeping in mind that mafia more than likely has a list of characters to fakeclaim

By the way, I will confirm at minimum that I am genuinely Geno from Mario RPG.

Assume Shawo is the Kingmaker: We now know for a fact that this is impossible due to the Dino flip.
Assume Shawo is the Hero: He completely destroyed any reasonable doubt that this is what he could be, considering he could easily tell @epona to take him out to confirm him and then he could just kill me at night. Even if roleblocked/killed, he could easily be doc saved and the watcher would be there to instantly confirm the doctor and the potentially a roleblocker as well.
Assume Shawo is the Watcher: He just confessed that he wasn't, so now we know this can't be the case.

The only logical role left for him to be is the Doctor, which he also just destroyed all credibility for.

into shawo dying the next day bc the only logical pr role for him to be was doctor

i want ness killed for info at this point

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but i'd genuinely be ok with guava dying too. she should've yesterday

 

[g u a v a]

im sorry but..

do you guys remember that time in squeaky clean mafia when everyone thought i was mafia but actually it turned out that it was just my single brain cell rlly struggling??

yea. that's happening again, so i legitimately will flip town and you'll go another day without a scum kill.

it's legit NOT me, so maybe look at all the people who are constantly trying to elim me.

if ur dead set on eliminating me you might as well end the day early

 

[bell account]

but this, with ness liking it, makes me confused what's going to happen. keeping in mind that mafia more than likely has a list of characters to fakeclaim

imagine reading into likes rofl

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do you guys remember that time in squeaky clean mafia when everyone thought i was mafia but actually it turned out that it was just my single brain cell rlly struggling??

might be a meta thing you even claimed doc in that game and died anyway for some reason

 

[Aerious]

imagine reading into likes rofl

i mean he later claimed geno, so yes, i'm reading into likes knowing that mafia could have a list of potential claims

 

[g u a v a]

imagine reading into likes rofl

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might be a meta thing you even claimed doc in that game and died anyway for some reason

ngl once you all start talking about all that strategy and math my head go

 

[Heyden]

Everyone whinging about the Ness/Guava lynches but doing nothing to move off them zzzzz

Can we please just hit Bell or Ace

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Ness and Guava omgusing each other as well... sigh

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BUT and this is suicide mission, if hero claims today and glow is willing to die, we still have watcher, so if we agree on mafia, they will have to decide between, rb the vig kill or the watcher. So hero dies but vig hits, and watcher gets rb. And if you think this is a good idea, well its not, because they will just rb the hero and kill the watcher, so therefore HERO SHOULD NEVER CLAIM THIS DAY!!!

And I was afraid that you were being used for that, so I get on repeat move to veto Shawo kill.
Because we lose 2 towns, risking killing another.
I don't think that rb can prevent the vigilante kill from happening. that would be too op and scum sided.

????

 

[Ace Marvel]

Everyone whinging about the Ness/Guava lynches but doing nothing to move off them zzzzz

Can we please just hit Bell or Ace

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Ness and Guava omgusing each other as well... sigh

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????

I read the wiki and change my mind. I'm allowed to do that, Still hero should not claim.

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If everyone want's me to claim to prevent this carnage, I already made the most beautiful image ever. I really don't want to, but mafia Heyden is really forcing me.

 

[bell account]

I read the wiki and change my mind. I'm allowed to do that, Still hero should not claim.

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If everyone want's me to claim to prevent this carnage, I already made the most beautiful image ever. I really don't want to, but mafia Heyden is really forcing me.

no if you have anything to claim save it for tomorrow

 

[Heyden]

What wiki

Also no shut up

 

[bell account]

who can i trust
i think i can trust ace and the clears
@Fleshy

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i pressed tab or spacebar and the post was sent, weird, anyway fleshy as a confirmed town i think i need to hear more of your thoughts or like your thoughts on my thoughts, something

 

[Ace Marvel]

who can i trust
i think i can trust ace and the clears
@Fleshy

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i pressed tab or spacebar and the post was sent, weird, anyway fleshy as a confirmed town i think i need to hear more of your thoughts or like your thoughts on my thoughts, something

Even if it wasn't meant to be seen, thanks!

 

[epona]

im sorry but..

do you guys remember that time in squeaky clean mafia when everyone thought i was mafia but actually it turned out that it was just my single brain cell rlly struggling??

yea. that's happening again, so i legitimately will flip town and you'll go another day without a scum kill.

it's legit NOT me, so maybe look at all the people who are constantly trying to elim me.

if ur dead set on eliminating me you might as well end the day early

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speaking from experience as scum in that game you were easy to push the lynch onto bc you got unlucky with specific interactions with me that looked contradictory when i brought them up, so it was more than just this

that said you were also easy bc your posts were disorganised af and there was no clear and coherent train of thought but you've admitted yourself (and i agree) that your play has improved a lot since that game so i really think you're just scum here

there's definitely scum on your wagon though bc it's ez

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i am open to an ace lynch, maybe, because i've maintained that he's been acting differently to his two branches of town (town pr, vanilla town) this game

i don't really know if that's enough to lynch him though and i also am not sure how productive it is to derail from the guava/ness crap for a whole other day (taking accountability for that lol)

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Spoiler: a load of random quotes to illustrate the below point

2 dead vt
1 doc
1 km
1 claimed watcher

Missing
6 vt
with 3 claims
1 hero

3 Mafia

Which means that if the rest of the vt claim, hero is out in the open.

Tomorrow is too late watcher rb, and the hero dies.
Even if we hit the rb today, they have backup.
Tomorrow we can still mess up. D5 is MYLO

But if we get a general consensus that glow is town, scum can fake claim today to save themselves, because we don't want glow to die. So unless glow is willing to die for the hero, we have to be super careful. And even if the real hero claims to save the king, they die. Or worse the real hero claims to save glow and mafia cc, so glow kills the real hero and mafia kills them.

Hero should never claim, unless we hit mafia today, if that happens, tomorrow we try to get the other rb if we miss, hero scarifies to get the other rb only keeping vt and we just have to fight a goon, with the best possible outcome ending D6/7, but this way we can get to F3.

So after thinking this, I would strongly suggest no other town claims today or until the hero is ready.

So following this.
Mafia will rb watcher and kill someone else
if we hit rb
Mafia will rb watcher and kill someone else
if we hit second rb
Mafia will kill watcher

BUT and this is suicide mission, if hero claims today and glow is willing to die, we still have watcher, so if we agree on mafia, they will have to decide between, rb the vig kill or the watcher. So hero dies but vig hits, and watcher gets rb. And if you think this is a good idea, well its not, because they will just rb the hero and kill the watcher, so therefore HERO SHOULD NEVER CLAIM THIS DAY!!!

We left that boat since D1
I already said it, by now anyone that is not mech clear, can be scum.

Being KM does not make you play protown, same thing I said to Ness.

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At this point apart from the mech clear, I can only say Ness is town.

You will be rb, you won't die until they find the hero, you are the least likely to die.

Because they are trying to kill the hero! It was obvious that Shawo was a pr.

The can ISO you to see possible candidates and kill them instead, so king is random, if that is their move, even if you die your choice will remain and we get a new KM the next day. Just like Dino's last wish for Epona to be Queen.
I'm pretty sure their goal is to kill the hero.

And I was afraid that you were being used for that, so I get on repeat move to veto Shawo kill.
Because we lose 2 towns, risking killing another.
I don't think that rb can prevent the vigilante kill from happening. that would be too op and scum sided.

i took a quick (literally 1 minute) look at ace's ISO and basically every post he's made has been 1 line long except for a rainbow list or two, and a lot of posts about mechanics (see the spoiler)

like, a lot
ace is literally the only one talking about mechanics and i don't know if that's coasty scum?? or just trying to solve. given how little content there is in his other posts i'd lean towards the former though

he's hyper-focussed on hero too but idk what to make of that

 

[Ace Marvel]

speaking from experience as scum in that game you were easy to push the lynch onto bc you got unlucky with specific interactions with me that looked contradictory when i brought them up, so it was more than just this

that said you were also easy bc your posts were disorganised af and there was no clear and coherent train of thought but you've admitted yourself (and i agree) that your play has improved a lot since that game so i really think you're just scum here

there's definitely scum on your wagon though bc it's ez

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i am open to an ace lynch, maybe, because i've maintained that he's been acting differently to his two branches of town (town pr, vanilla town) this game

i don't really know if that's enough to lynch him though and i also am not sure how productive it is to derail from the guava/ness crap for a whole other day (taking accountability for that lol)

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i took a quick (literally 1 minute) look at ace's ISO and basically every post he's made has been 1 line long except for a rainbow list or two, and a lot of posts about mechanics (see the spoiler)

like, a lot
ace is literally the only one talking about mechanics and i don't know if that's coasty scum?? or just trying to solve. given how little content there is in his other posts i'd lean towards the former though

he's hyper-focussed on hero too but idk what to make of that

This has not more strength of argument this game, but I will flip town.