Mafia Into the MarioVerse Kingmaker- Mafia Win!

epona/heyden have massive partner energy but third is more likely ness or volt
i didnt realize sidney was new as i had missed their first couple posts- on reread im not sure this is noob scum with tos experience
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Because with the claim, the pool of possible scum is getting limited, and non of those players can be mech clear.
how do you know these particular players cant be mechanically cleared?
 
nobody trying to save them, too many people pushing them in front of ness reeks of agenda
people tried to save her yesterday. ness is up for elim bc of what happened yesterday. guava is a threat for tomorrow. her lack of reasoning and shift onto me is a huge tell

Because with the claim, the pool of possible scum is getting limited, and non of those players can be mech clear.
but that’s not a good enough reason to scumread people. you have to analyze their posts and behaviors
 
epona/heyden have massive partner energy but third is more likely ness or volt
i didnt realize sidney was new as i had missed their first couple posts- on reread im not sure this is noob scum with tos experience
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how do you know these particular players cant be mechanically cleared?


i've been mindmelding with heyden since he came in. i was honestly scumleaning the slot when it was geoni but i've agreed with pretty much everything he's said which makes me think he is town
 
but that’s not a good enough reason to scumread people. you have to analyze their posts and behaviors
We left that boat since D1
I already said it, by now anyone that is not mech clear, can be scum.

Being KM does not make you play protown, same thing I said to Ness.
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At this point apart from the mech clear, I can only say Ness is town.
 
We left that boat since D1
I already said it, by now anyone that is not mech clear, can be scum.

Being KM does not make you play protown, same thing I said to Ness.
no one has left that boat d1. the question is how do you know they can’t clear?
 
no one has left that boat d1. the question is how do you know they can’t clear?
Because all the infightings ruined the game and I'm at a point that I can't simply say anything, let the king do whatever they want, and hopefully I will be dead tonight. We got to the point 80% of the players just want to die and the other 20% are mafia.
 
Because all the infightings ruined the game and I'm at a point that I can't simply say anything, let the king do whatever they want, and hopefully I will be dead tonight. We got to the point 80% of the players just want to die and the other 20% are mafia.
fleshy is dying tonight unfortunately. you can say stuff, you’re free to. it’s glow’s decision ultimately
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anyways ness has to be elim'd today goodbye everybody
 
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ngl idk what you mean
Ace knew D5 was MYLO yet was onboard with Hero claiming. Hero should claim a day before MYLO, for which Aerious thought MYLO was D4. Aerious didn’t know, correlating with general town confusion/unknowingness, but my point is Ace knew yet didn’t speak up.

Initially I thought wanting the Hero to out was protown bc mafia should WANT to CC Hero, but Aerious is right, ppl in this game will just fakeclaim townie.

Reading this I think I just made it more confusing but idk how else to explain it.

Ace wanting Hero to out to me reads weird, also bc I hate when people suckup to the townclears.
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nobody trying to save them, too many people pushing them in front of ness reeks of agenda
Ya that’s what I was thinking initially but with scum Ness there’d be 2 people influencing the lynch off of him, for which that would most likely land on me and epona, but ik I’m town and I’m hoping epona is too.
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I’ll touch on Ace and Sidney in a bit
Glow please don’t lynch early

Also tomorrow can we crown like Volt or something and majority vote, it’s way too annoying kissing at kings feet when the consensus seems to be the opposite of what they think lol
 
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Ace knew D5 was MYLO yet was onboard with Hero claiming. Hero should claim a day before MYLO, for which Aerious thought MYLO was D4. Aerious didn’t know, correlating with general town confusion/unknowingness, but my point is Ace knew yet didn’t speak up.

Initially I thought wanting the Hero to out was protown bc mafia should WANT to CC Hero, but Aerious is right, ppl in this game will just fakeclaim townie.

Reading this I think I just made it more confusing but idk how else to explain it.

Ace wanting Hero to out to me reads weird, also bc I hate when people suckup to the townclears.
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Ya that’s what I was thinking initially but with scum Ness there’d be 2 people influencing the lynch off of him, for which that would most likely land on me and epona, but ik I’m town and I’m hoping epona is too.
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I’ll touch on Ace and Sidney in a bit
Glow please don’t lynch early

Also tomorrow can we crown like Volt or something and majority vote, it’s way too annoying kissing at kings feet when the consensus seems to be the opposite of what they think lol

I never said that hero should claim.
 
Sure, here's my thoughts.
I honestly do think you are mafia with someone like Guava because of your sudden flipping from her to me. Could I be wrong? Maybe. But whatever happened to "~5 pages in and I'm ready to eliminate guava"? Guava has been doing nothing but coast by the entirety of the game, and yet suddenly the minute you gain power you decide to forget her and exclusively say you're going to eliminate me at 24 hours without even giving me a chance or discuss any other potential eliminations.
except there's been no flip, i've never said i stopped scumreading guava?? all d2 i said either you or guava were the best lynches and noted all the interactions that felt like intervention on your behalf.

also you've really not noticed that i have been trying to address my concerns with you hence my response to your post about shawo and my earlier post today.

Everyone you have focused on so far has been town or likely are town, starting with cake, epona, volt, and geoni/heyden. Baseless accusations from you that led to absolutely nothing; the absolute worst one is planting the seeds of doubt against cake for her "the town" comment, when literally all she did was get defensive at the end. Oh, there's also the fact that you tried to make it out that I was "giving up" for just posting a picture of Jim Halpert so go off. You can't blame me for seeing myself as the easiest scapegoat in the thread and view what you're doing as a simple solution to getting a ml.

may i remind you of your scumread on shawo which you've only dropped because he's now dead town, which is really the only scumread i can remember (that you've made a point of) before me.

yes i just "tu quoque" fallacy'd your criticism of me but that's also because i just find it weird that you think me pointing out a wording slip on dead town is a reason for me being mafia.

it just feels like another chainsaw defending dead town when they weren't actually towny, and let's just nip the whole "newbs can't play towny" bud now, cos objectively i'd say Sidney has been pretty consistently town and is also new.

and if you assume volt/epona/hayden as town here, firstly what makes you think that?

implicitly ur saying scum is me/guava and someone in ace/Sidney/bell then. so 2nd question is do you scumread anyone in those three?

regardless.

it just makes no sense to scumread me with guava. she wanted to discredit my read so badly that she omgus'd me in a rly empty flop read lmao

but ANYWAY.

the reason i made the martyr comment is because you (and guava/epona) are all kind of singing the same tune, ~like idc lynch me~ as if that's beneficial to anyone here and not something to want or expect from town that is supposed to be playing to their wincon. i rly don't even know what picture you're talking about cos it was regarding your lines accepting/requesting death.

my entire point was if you're town you are better off focusing on your objective (as you've now started on), which if you don't think you'll live you have all the more reason to TRY to accomplish all you can before that. i should NOT have had to ask you for your thoughts on other players besides someone who isn't getting lynched this phase (me).

you calling me mafia just feels like you want to discredit me too, rather than trying to meet an objective for self preservation or for lynching mafia. it also feels like you were trying to intimidate me (which, yes, THAT will only make me dig my heels in) and also if you're town you're just setting the game up for failure if i lynch you and you flip green by calling for my subsequent lynch.

Sure, you can kill me for info at this point idc and I get the logic behind it. But I'm not just going to accept myself going down so easily when I think there is a chance of hitting scum today, and I ain't one of them. If you are town, then it is of no surprise to me that you're doing this because it's not like you're going to listen to me either way. You hyper focus your attention on 1 person and then you refuse to concede any shred of goodwill or doubt to said person. You've done it with Geoni pretty much every game you've been in with him and now you're going to do it to me.

ok so two things.
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again with the discredit/intimidation card from a more ad hominem perspective. but in case you forgot, i initially townread geoni and wavered. i gave him every chance to engage with me and even stated in-game that i would think about what he's said while scumreading him. not really "me hyper focusing" considered i initially scumread mafia WITH him, (oath) and mostly changed my mind when he suddenly flipped from that read. he then decided to make a 'no contest' plea which presents nothing to change my mind. i don't owe you or geoni or anyone the benefit of the doubt. the burden falls on you once i make my points.

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i will say that i'm glad you're at least stating your thoughts even IF you think i'm not listening.
 
Busy day today, thought I'd have time to post earlier but I didn't, just catching up.

unfortunately I’m not km so I can’t

I would obviously rather we didn’t lose any town and got part of the mafia instead but I don’t have much right now and don’t see the point in not completely voicing my thoughts for reactions/more discussion?
tbh your posts have confused me the post this game but I think you may just being playing some galaxy brain level game
If everyone else town thinks you’re cleared then you wouldn’t be up for elim anyways so idrk why it’s a big deal
I know my own innocence so I’m just trying to work things out & I already said earlier in the game I do not have a coach or anything so I’m fueled purely by newbie ignorance

in essence: sometimes I say things

I find it interesting that Sidney would say this. I (foolishly, perhaps) TR her for a similar reason early on, others have mentioned the same. The whole post seems forced, the last part in particular just seems like a way to reiterate the whole "yeah, i'm just new and clueless!" after being pushed the tiniest bit.
 
I haven't claim anything.
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the claims are Guava, Aerious, Ness, Bell
I’m not gonna speak on who’s claimed what but rolenames mean nothing
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I mean they do, but mafia always have fakeclaims, so it’s been proven time and again analysing rolenames is useless
 
I’m not gonna speak on who’s claimed what but rolenames mean nothing
You asked me if I claimed, you started this.
Scum much.
I will be okay with Heyden going today.

And if I go I will flip town and I expect everyone tomorrow to say, gosh he really is always town.
 
I was confirming if you claimed or not, not asking for a claims masterlist, not sure why you’re suddenly upset about it lol.
 
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