Mafia Island Madness - Town Wins

[Damniel]

no, im actually townleaning u rn, ure acting like u have in previous games when u were town and i honestly dont think u wouldve voted geoni early on as maf. ure also contributing quite a bit to the game and being very vocal.
also u refusing at first to answer aleks question, imo maf wouldnt refuse as it might make them more sus.

do you think maf ace would be so bold to tunnel me here? im honestly having trouble seeing the wolf motivation behind him pushing me or his own chop, and not really considering others. i think he's just very confident but clearly very wrong

 

[dedenne]

do you think maf ace would be so bold to tunnel me here? im honestly having trouble seeing the wolf motivation behind him pushing me or his own chop, and not really considering others. i think he's just very confident but clearly very wrong

yeah that's why i said i'll have to look into it more since im not 100% certain rn, it is a bold move and if u are chopped and flip town, it might be labelled as another 1 of those confident town was just wrong situations rather than ace being a maflean for people.

 

[Damniel]

does anyone who played shawo's game remember how volt and guava played? i didn't read that game much but know they were maf with tom

 

[Ace Marvel]

so I'm sus for *check note* being friends with ace
so I am buddying ace and that means we are mafia. lol
Yes I do townread him. I am friends with ace outside the game. hence why I was saying all these things. is this post getting ignored too

I said before that I found weird that people followed up dan's sus on dino without questioning him. Then, when dan asked about hikari, I followed up and said what I think again. Then Hikari explained himself, I said I might have taken it too seriously (I said something like "i am the only who cares, but with your response i am not so sure about this anymore").

Volt you are fresh to death, and I do think is unfair, that you are getting this treatment based on our friendship, this post probably won't help the situation, but I wanted you to know that.

ive been town in every recent game but bianca's game and my MU semis. you should at least be comparing those games to this one since I vary alot as town

Right or wrong, there has not been a single game you have taken my reads seriously, I'll give you this one, because I'm pushing your wagon, but even if I didn't they would simply be passed by. So I will do my Town teamwork, with players that actually are interested in my reads.

And this is totally fine, I'm not judging your character, I'm talking from experience of previous games, I would never hold that against you or expect you to change it.

That being said, normally I would agree you ca be insta read most of the time, but right now you took a new role, I always say sharing is caring, this time you are oversharing, when you normally just answer questions with questions and that is a big red flag.
Alek question is also a red flag, not because you didn't wanted to answer but because, you did.

And finally if I had done all those thing I would be the top wagon at the moment, people expect you to be town, and will support that. So I'm asking myself what would I do to be read as mafia, and everything you are doing would earn my that title, which is weak because the same way people read you always town, they read me always mafia.

 

[FinalArcadia]

This is really interesting to me that Geoni wallposting his thoughts from early game to now is suspicious to some people; on Bulbagarden, wallposting in general - even for content many pages ago - usually gets you town points for effort at the very least. Differences in site culture for mafia games is super interesting

Anyway, maybe because of that, Geoni actually looks pretty good to me so far, and looking back through the game that they've missed seems more beneficial to town to be working with full information

I really don't get Ace Marvel's strategy here when we don't know for sure how clues are going to present themselves in the flavor text. Like, focusing so much attention on Dan when it's not even clear if that'll lead to specific hints to Dan's alignment seems super tunnel-y. Is it mafia motive, though? It does give Ace a reason to avoid giving too many thoughts on others, but what if we all did vote with him on Dan and Dan flipped town? Then what would his motive have been, just to get a single town elimination?

 

[voltairenism]

Geoni (Dobie)
Popped in kind of late, and mostly contributed thoughts on the early game stuff quite by quote in an infodump. Reminds me of endless did in the last game. I'd watch for this if he seems to be getting a lot of influence in his post and doesn't end up night killed.

I dont want to analyze different players playstyles but it did ring a bell haha

this is the first time i've seen shawo play like this i think? like not throwing out claims and actually coherently solving
but i've only ever played with him when he's been town

I mean if shawo is town and the setup is semiopen he might not have info to solve the game mechanically

i dont want to talk abt ace since we are teammates apparently but yall dont see the parallels with here and june mafia (aerious wagon)?

does anyone who played shawo's game remember how volt and guava played? i didn't read that game much but know they were maf with tom

I was outed by cop d1 so I barely talked. guava claimed doctor and died for it

Volt you are fresh to death, and I do think is unfair, that you are getting this treatment based on our friendship, this post probably won't help the situation, but I wanted you to know that.

we all good bud love ya

 

[FinalArcadia]

Ehhh, I think I mafia lean the most on guava. Without any meta to go by here other than what others are saying - which has been kind of conflicting about guava's town play - the whole leaving for D2 but still engaging with the thread to some degree only really responding to others' suspicions since then doesn't feel like something town would want to do when there's been a lot of action to discuss

Gonna vote there now just in case I'm not online closer to EoD

 

[voltairenism]

also i didnt actually read janitorial, I died, got pissed, stopped reading

 

[Damniel]

Right or wrong, there has not been a single game you have taken my reads seriously, I'll give you this one, because I'm pushing your wagon, but even if I didn't they would simply be passed by. So I will do my Town teamwork, with players that actually are interested in my reads.

And this is totally fine, I'm not judging your character, I'm talking from experience of previous games, I would never hold that against you or expect you to change it.

That being said, normally I would agree you ca be insta read most of the time, but right now you took a new role, I always say sharing is caring, this time you are oversharing, when you normally just answer questions with questions and that is a big red flag.
Alek question is also a red flag, not because you didn't wanted to answer but because, you did.

And finally if I had done all those thing I would be the top wagon at the moment, people expect you to be town, and will support that. So I'm asking myself what would I do to be read as mafia, and everything you are doing would earn my that title, which is weak because the same way people read you always town, they read me always mafia.

i mean its fine to not want to town read me right away, but I feel believing im mafia and no other world is possible, on D1, is a bit too extreme. like it seems youre already sure that im teamed with alek and geoni, when you at least consider other partners with me, or look for other individually sus people

i dont really think that you dying will instant prove me as mafia, since im not pushing for your wagon and flavor clues only make sense for night kills

I believe im asking questions when I find they'll lead to something helpful

i answered alek's questions since while I found it not helpful (and it did in fact lead to no where), they seemed to get very upset by me not answering and it was a bit irritating to keep seeing that tbh

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i dont see the benefit of one mafia member risking so much to just get one person chopped when its not like im widely sussed. i feel like maf would just give up at this point when he's not getting that much support. so i think ace is just town here but i really hope he takes off his tunnel classes and start to look at others more critically, even if he still thinks im maf

 

[Antonio]

Literally yall are AI reading ppl for the dumbest reasons, no offense to anyone here.

Geoni coming back and give his opinions to the thread isn't AI.

Daniel answering the question isn't AI. Lacking a proper motive to decline at the time and not willing to give a legit reason for why he declined is why I sus read him because it hard to conclude whether you are acting from a townie or mafia perspective if you don't provide a motive for your actions.

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I don't see a townie perspective for declining a question regarding your motive behind not wanting to answer the question.

 

[Damniel]

Literally yall are AI reading ppl for the dumbest reasons, no offense to anyone here.

Geoni coming back and give his opinions to the thread isn't AI.

Daniel answering the question isn't AI. Lacking a proper motive to decline at the time and not willing to give a legit reason for why he declined is why I sus read him because it hard to conclude whether you are acting from a townie or mafia perspective if you don't provide a motive for your actions.

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I don't see a townie perspective for declining a question regarding your motive behind not wanting to answer the question.

what wolf motive do i have for not wanting to answer it? it wasn’t a hard question to answer

town does strange and unexplained things. wolves usually have a calculated reason behind their actions

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like, had a just answered the question right away, would that change anything? was my answer problematic?

 

[dedenne]

oh. alek a while back u asked me a question, i thought i screen shotted it but i didnt. do u remember what it was or does it not matter anymore?

 

[Ace Marvel]

Is it mafia motive, though? It does give Ace a reason to avoid giving too many thoughts on others, but what if we all did vote with him on Dan and Dan flipped town? Then what would his motive have been, just to get a single town elimination?

If Damniel flips town I would be wrong.

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i mean its fine to not want to town read me right away, but I feel believing im mafia and no other world is possible, on D1, is a bit too extreme. like it seems youre already sure that im teamed with alek and geoni, when you at least consider other partners with me, or look for other individually sus people

i dont really think that you dying will instant prove me as mafia, since im not pushing for your wagon and flavor clues only make sense for night kills

I believe im asking questions when I find they'll lead to something helpful

i answered alek's questions since while I found it not helpful (and it did in fact lead to no where), they seemed to get very upset by me not answering and it was a bit irritating to keep seeing that tbh

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i dont see the benefit of one mafia member risking so much to just get one person chopped when its not like im widely sussed. i feel like maf would just give up at this point when he's not getting that much support. so i think ace is just town here but i really hope he takes off his tunnel classes and start to look at others more critically, even if he still thinks im maf

I will give you that, but at the moment no one has even attempted to suggest another suspect and act on it. And I'm not going Volt. So the lack of options is just helping my tunneling.

 

[Damniel]

I will give you that, but at the moment no one has even attempted to suggest another suspect and act on it. And I'm not going Volt. So the lack of options is just helping my tunneling.

which is why i said before we need to work together and form a general consensus on a PoE lol. us being split isn't helping much rn

guava, hikari, and shawo seem to be points of interest for people. any thoughts on them?

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like i feel like we're feeling the frustration of not knowing what we're doing, so i think its really important we figure out who's at the bottom for everyone here

oh also dino is another point of discussion. dino and guava i tonally TL but they're not hills ill die on yet. though i do feel like voting guava is a cop out because she's not doing much yet

 

[dedenne]

im townleaning dino rn (is it ok if i call u liam to not get confused with the other dino?) , their posts seem very genuine to me so far and they are trying to help contribute to the game.
guavas a null for me rn, and i agree on voting guava is a cop out rn, im gonna wait til d2 to get more out of her since im not sure we'll be getting anything substantial from her today lol

 

[Dinosaurz]

im townleaning dino rn (is it ok if i call u liam to not get confused with the other dino?) , their posts seem very genuine to me so far and they are trying to help contribute to the game.
guavas a null for me rn, and i agree on voting guava is a cop out rn, im gonna wait til d2 to get more out of her since im not sure we'll be getting anything substantial from her today lol

Yeah lol Liam is fine!!!

 

[Ace Marvel]

which is why i said before we need to work together and form a general consensus on a PoE lol. us being split isn't helping much rn

guava, hikari, and shawo seem to be points of interest for people. any thoughts on them?

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like i feel like we're feeling the frustration of not knowing what we're doing, so i think its really important we figure out who's at the bottom for everyone here

oh also dino is another point of discussion. dino and guava i tonally TL but they're not hills ill die on yet. though i do feel like voting guava is a cop out because she's not doing much yet

Guava might not show interest, but that does not mean the Fruit Queen throws games. So I think is a misconstruction of their playing style.
Hikari idk, can go both ways, I will look deeper.
Shawo, I will give him that you can play every single game the same, but this Shawo is pretty tame, and normally Shawo want to take control, but maybe trying new tactics.

 

[glow]

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bruh why am i being sussed this time

somehow this is the towniest post in the game

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her obligatory case/tunnel

on a definitely unrelated note, i am now ready to FOS geoni

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glow is a good player he brought up since he said there's nothing striking about her so far, and ill have to agree. she said shed vote tonight, and I dont think she did, so hard to know whats she's thinking rn

lmao i fell asleep during my lecture videos i'm cry

 

[Dinosaurz]

Well I’m working waiting for delivery pings so guess I’m online now 👁👁

 

[glow]

Actually, I'm genuinely surprised no one has claimed D1 yet. Let's keep it that way.

actually someone did LOL

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@DinoTown can we get a player list in the OP idk who's in this game :x

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this is the first time i've seen shawo play like this i think? like not throwing out claims and actually coherently solving
but i've only ever played with him when he's been town

a-are you mafia again..?