Mafia Island Madness - Town Wins

[Damniel]

i am doctor im gonna be transparent there

 

[epona]

Again Alek you have a lot of posts about balance and bringing in the mafia wiki but of what substance or value actually is that? It just feels like a charade and presenting yourself as posting things that are relevant to the game state but when you actually break it down it isn’t furthering anything and it’s just causing needless back and forth that’s clogging the thread

I’m beginning to think this is strategic purely because of how much it’s happened now

 

[Antonio]

Alex advocating for what is basically a policy chop on someone who is likely to be a town PR is beyond suspicious seeing as we mischopped yesterday though

How exactly is he a Town PR if he has motivation to lie about a claim and how unbalanced it is for there to be 2 doctors? If it sus for people to go after people for claiming, then what's stopping mafia from claiming and stating that it's sus to go after them?

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Again Alek you have a lot of posts about balance and bringing in the mafia wiki but of what substance or value actually is that? It just feels like a charade and presenting yourself as posting things that are relevant to the game state but when you actually break it down it isn’t furthering anything and it’s just causing needless back and forth that’s clogging the thread

I’m beginning to think this is strategic purely because of how much it’s happened now

The substance of bringing that in is to prove that a 2 doctor game is unbalanced.

 

[Damniel]

i think we all knew that 2 docs just isn’t what’s happening here

 

[epona]

How exactly is he a Town PR if he has motivation to lie about a claim and how unbalanced it is for there to be 2 doctors? If it sus for people to go after people for claiming, then what's stopping mafia from claiming and stating that it's sus to go after them?

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The substance of bringing that in is to prove that a 2 doctor game is unbalanced.

why would we risk eliminating a town PR right now?? Yes there’s a chance he’s lying as town, lying as mafia, or is the genuine doctor
HOW is it beneficial to town to take that risk at this stage in the game

and yes I think most people agree it seems weird balance-wise. That’s been discussed, it’s not bringing anything new, and until we know how many people are on the mafia team, or how many other PRs (both maf And town) are in the game, we can’t make any informed commentary about the balance. We won’t know that til endgame so everything you’re posting right now is conjecture and filler

 

[Antonio]

i think we all knew that 2 docs just isn’t what’s happening here

I was researching 2 doctor mafia to see if there was any info regarding it

 

[Damniel]

ik this whole claim thing gonna just end up being a main talking point of today, but i’m interested in talking about volt rn

epona you said before you weren’t sold on them being town. are i still feeling that now

 

[epona]

ik this whole claim thing gonna just end up being a main talking point of today, but i’m interested in talking about volt rn

epona you said before you weren’t sold on them being town. are i still feeling that now

they’re still kind of null for me, the absolute certainty about it being a 3-man team still bothers me but idk if it is a team of 3 anymore so idk if that’s even relevant

nothing else has stuck out to me as not town though?

 

[Damniel]

they’re still kind of null for me, the absolute certainty about it being a 3-man team still bothers me but idk if it is a team of 3 anymore so idk if that’s even relevant

nothing else has stuck out to me as not town though?

i posted my PoE earlier and i was wondering where yours is too since it seems you got quite a few nulls. ik dedenne is at your very bottom but who else iyo

 

[Antonio]

why would we risk eliminating a town PR right now?? Yes there’s a chance he’s lying as town, lying as mafia, or is the genuine doctor
HOW is it beneficial to town to take that risk at this stage in the game

Because there are 2 Doctors claims and one of them has to be lying. How exactly is it helpful to town if the doctors are lying, hmmm? How exactly are we certain that what they are saying is the truth? Why should we keep 2 doctors alive if we are sure that at least one of them is lying? We literally have a pool of 2 individuals that we know that at least 1 of them are lying.

There is a plausible reason for Damniel to claim doctor if he was mafia aswell, hence EOD self preservation. Literally the argument for not voting damniel last day was due to him claiming and no CC. Now we have a CC and pool of people to work with.

 

[Damniel]

one of the fake doc claims can be lucky, we dont know for sure yet

 

[Antonio]

one of the fake doc claims can be lucky, we dont know for sure yet

Yes but it will suspicious that suddenly Shawo is lucky, isn't it.

 

[Ace Marvel]

i understand that everyone here is skeptical that there are two docs

admittedly i dont think there's two docs either

why am i going along with this?

I am doctor and I believed shawo to be lucky/bulletproof. shawo bites the bullet and I get to live another day without needing to self protect. essentially, shawo is trying to protect me and i could save my self protect until after he got shot

admittedly shawo could also just be mafia and Im misreading these scenarios. but i can imagine a town PoV for claiming doc. if i died, everyone would look into shawo next day, and if i lived i wouldve admitted to this thinking



if you guys want to talk about whether there could be a doctor and lucky together, we can. but i dont think shawo is doc. i still have a self protect so im okay with blowing this plan i guess

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given that the doc can stop the only 1 kp mafia has, maf has to try to kill the doc, so shawo or i (whoever you believe to be doc) will have to eventually be killed, otherwise they can't safely make kills

But this is a sentence N3 for you then. Which leaves other pr vulnerable, and that is what I don't agree with Shawo's play style, is not town motivated is Shawo motivated.

 

[Antonio]

I also find it weird that Shawo will be worried about saving you personally.

 

[epona]

Because there are 2 Doctors claims and one of them has to be lying. How exactly is it helpful to town if the doctors are lying, hmmm? How exactly are we certain that what they are saying is the truth? Why should we keep 2 doctors alive if we are sure that at least one of them is lying? We literally have a pool of 2 individuals that we know that at least 1 of them are lying.

There is a plausible reason for Damniel to claim doctor if he was mafia aswell, hence EOD self preservation. Literally the argument for not voting damniel last day was due to him claiming and no CC. Now we have a CC and pool of people to work with.

yeah there’s a chance that one of them is fakeclaiming as town though? And even if it is 1 town claim 1 mafia claim we still have a 50/50 chance of hitting the town doctor???? Like???

the only way for them to prove it is to literally show the role PM which they can’t so
If one of them is lying it’ll solve itself, I don’t think we should vote there at all

 

[Damniel]

But this is a sentence N3 for you then. Which leaves other pr vulnerable, and that is what I don't agree with Shawo's play style, is not town motivated is Shawo motivated.

well we dont know whether or not i use my self protect on myself or not

 

[epona]

i posted my PoE earlier and i was wondering where yours is too since it seems you got quite a few nulls. ik dedenne is at your very bottom but who else iyo

I already said guava or dedenne

 

[Damniel]

I already said guava or dedenne

oh we agree with that i guess

 

[Ace Marvel]

well we dont know whether or not i use my self protect on myself or not

You already said it before, and you are not one to play mind games.

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I'm going Geoni, no one has done something so mafia to make me change my mind.

 

[voltairenism]

But this is a sentence N3 for you then. Which leaves other pr vulnerable, and that is what I don't agree with Shawo's play style, is not town motivated is Shawo motivated.

yall cant be this dense to playing the game mechanically