Antonio
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So did you ask since the beginning?
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I can see that.
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Mafia Island Madness - Town Wins
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Damniel
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no i asked during night phase
Antonio
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What motivated to you to ask?
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Source: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Doctor
Even the mafia wiki agrees that having 2 doctors is an unbalanced combination.
Damniel
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when i was forced to claim EoD, i started thinking about the case where someone else claimed doc and if that immediately meant they were mafia since naturally a CC would lead me to believe that. so i asked if there could be multiples to double check. its why i didn't immediately write shawo as maf
Damniel
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does this mean im mafia?
Antonio
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I can see that but have it ever crossed your mind that if someone did CC, then having 2 doctors would be unbalanced?
It just means your more likely to lie. You were set for the vote at the time.
Damniel
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it depends on the other roles so i didn't immediately write the idea off
i mean i dont know if shawo is mafia or not, but I think it'll become clearer when one of us has to die
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fair i mean i understand that shawo had less motive to lie here
Antonio
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I agree that's why I think you should voted off this day phase. Even though I think the interaction between you and Shawo are M/M, I don't think I can fully trust you unless I can feel certain about your role alignment.
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If you are coming from a town perspective, then it means all your conclusions are coming from a place of honesty.
Damniel
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i understand that everyone here is skeptical that there are two docs
admittedly i dont think there's two docs either
why am i going along with this?
I am doctor and I believed shawo to be lucky/bulletproof. shawo bites the bullet and I get to live another day without needing to self protect. essentially, shawo is trying to protect me and i could save my self protect until after he got shot
admittedly shawo could also just be mafia and Im misreading these scenarios. but i can imagine a town PoV for claiming doc. if i died, everyone would look into shawo next day, and if i lived i wouldve admitted to this thinking
if you guys want to talk about whether there could be a doctor and lucky together, we can. but i dont think shawo is doc. i still have a self protect so im okay with blowing this plan i guess
given that the doc can stop the only 1 kp mafia has, maf has to try to kill the doc, so shawo or i (whoever you believe to be doc) will have to eventually be killed, otherwise they can't safely make kills
admittedly i dont think there's two docs either
why am i going along with this?
I am doctor and I believed shawo to be lucky/bulletproof. shawo bites the bullet and I get to live another day without needing to self protect. essentially, shawo is trying to protect me and i could save my self protect until after he got shot
admittedly shawo could also just be mafia and Im misreading these scenarios. but i can imagine a town PoV for claiming doc. if i died, everyone would look into shawo next day, and if i lived i wouldve admitted to this thinking
if you guys want to talk about whether there could be a doctor and lucky together, we can. but i dont think shawo is doc. i still have a self protect so im okay with blowing this plan i guess
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given that the doc can stop the only 1 kp mafia has, maf has to try to kill the doc, so shawo or i (whoever you believe to be doc) will have to eventually be killed, otherwise they can't safely make kills
Antonio
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I swear to God if Shawo changes his claim, I am absolutely more certain you guys are working on the same wavelength.
Why exactly would Shawo be so willing to keep you alive?
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Why exactly would Shawo be so willing to keep you alive?
Damniel
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i mean look back at your own game and you could see both of us can fake claim for our own town motivated reasonings. i really thought you would understand this given how fresh that game is
Antonio
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Shawo stated he protected you when he was doctor, so technically mafia wouldn't bite the bullet cuz there's a chance he could protect himself therefore it would've been unlikely for Shawo to be voted off tonight. If Shawo is lying about his claim, why exactly would you make that obvious?
Damniel
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that part got me too but i was willing to see how N2 turned out and go from there, or i would just die and you guys would figure that out on your own
Antonio
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You both fakeclaimed as mason, which could be perceived as believable. However, both You and Shawo claimed Doctor which isn't believeable. There's a difference.
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I would prefer you die Today. You keep talking about how you want to see how the future goes like this isn't important now
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You said something similar earlier when you stated we shouldn't focus on the doc claim till D3. Like, having 2 doc claims isn't important.
Lmao I thought you were Lucky and fakeclaiming doctor Dan, that’s what I was trying to communicate with you but didn’t want to say it bc obviously that would screw with your plan
I mean I guess it’s possible that Shawo is lucky either but I am 99.9% sure there’s not two doctors
this is what I meant about it being really frustrating when people fakeclaim as town because it was impossible for me to communicate this without ruining whatever plan you had and that puts the rest of town in an unfair and impossible position
Alex advocating for what is basically a policy chop on someone who is likely to be a town PR is beyond suspicious seeing as we mischopped yesterday though
I mean I guess it’s possible that Shawo is lucky either but I am 99.9% sure there’s not two doctors
this is what I meant about it being really frustrating when people fakeclaim as town because it was impossible for me to communicate this without ruining whatever plan you had and that puts the rest of town in an unfair and impossible position
Alex advocating for what is basically a policy chop on someone who is likely to be a town PR is beyond suspicious seeing as we mischopped yesterday though
Damniel
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i mean this could also be the case too
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i wasn’t planning to do this but i was forced to claim at EoD. im rolling with what i got now
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