How it is a leap in logic to state that if you're scum then Toads is town lol.
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this paragraph is structured weirdly, especially because your claim in the beginning states you don't see a motivation to vote ace... but then you mention that he'd "hopefully incite reaction"
i also think you took what shawo said out of context. in his wallpost he said that he was stirring for reactions
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
who is giving him a free pass
I believe we are in the same route with me, no one reads, I say something silly, they scum read me, I never become top wagon, eventually I will get kill and that's it. So this time I will be trying to steal the spotlight to see who wants to give it, or worse take it away from me.
I don't like Shawo wagon, but I don't have anything else.
@glow I will vote for you, because I feel like it.
is this the part where i omgus-vote you
People that don't want to lynch him. Frankly I don't see why it matters, I have many thoughts to share and they're coming soon.
fair enough, you said you liked my reservation of judgment
bianca's townread on me is apparently bc it is statistically unlikely for me to rand scum twice in a row, so i'm gonna maintain that that's weak
i agree that it's not impossible to have reads d1 but i think today has gotten off to a very underwhelming and soggy start. feels like 22 pages of nothing
So the fact that ness is sticking with the claim that "anyone who doesn't want to lynch me is """"""""giving me a free pass"""""""" means that either there was some thought process that you haven't shared or that you've made a logical leap...
Want to share?
Want to share?
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
i don't know who doesn't want to vote him on the top of my head, but I don't equate a free pass with someone townreading him. a free pass would be me town reading a new player since they're new
oh man here it is
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
Please by all means do. I will do the same.
I think the few things of value here are the reactions to me, and the reactions to ace.
I think I've dug the most genuine reads out of people and right now, and it's easy to see how people have been thinking about the game in reference to that.
Although, I will admit, I did not intend on doing it like this.
Read my post and agree that ness made a huge logical jump between those two posts.
Regardless of how scummy you may think my ten or so posts are, it would be too much to be complaining about anyone who doesn't share that read. Agree?
I think I've dug the most genuine reads out of people and right now, and it's easy to see how people have been thinking about the game in reference to that.
Although, I will admit, I did not intend on doing it like this.
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Read my post and agree that ness made a huge logical jump between those two posts.
Regardless of how scummy you may think my ten or so posts are, it would be too much to be complaining about anyone who doesn't share that read. Agree?
i actually have u as townlocked, AMA
also i KNOW i'm getting quotes from replies to me right now, FYI i am / still / reading and i'm on page 16 (well about to be 17)
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is this supposed to imply that bianca and i aren't a team......... why the 'or'
Well then I concede I worded it incorrectly, I'm only human and I don't always make the most eloquent points. The fact that he's running with me saying "giving him a free pass" as an attempt to turn things on me, as well as state that I think he is "100 mafia" (never said that, haven't even made the post yet) just oozes opportunistic to me. All I ever said was that if he's scum, Toads is probably town; that's not a leap in logic anyway.
I'll leave this much for the time being: Scum needs to appeal to the masses in order to survive, and they have to feign others existence in order to get them on their good side. Shawo is doing this with Ace right now rather than make any definite claim, and it rubs me completely the wrong way. His change in stance on Toadsworthy is mildly interesting and I'm not sure how to interpret it currently, but he's refused to answer these questions I've directed to him several times and I don't know why he dodged them.
townlock #2, hello
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
im not so sure on that. ness in one posts says if you’re maf than it looks good on toads. then he says people shouldn’t be giving you a free pass. i don’t know who these people are, but i don’t see the leap. if he thinks you’re maf, it seems fine to me that he’d be sus of players who are avoiding reading you/town reading you
i was told to pick 3
i was sure about the other two but didn't really want to come down on either side of you or bianca. the 'or' doesn't have any further significance
fwiw i'm also rescinding my previous comments on you now that you've posted more, so revise that to just read bianca
i have to say, you keep holding a standard over my head despite the fact that i'm starting to get back into the jive of things. i'm admittedly rusty. i haven't backed away when people don't agree, i'm asking because i want reactions to compare statements to. saying that i'm non-confrontational because i'm trying to lay a foundation is hasty. you also have to keep in mind that thus far, it feels like not much has been accomplished, so it feels like i have to brute force reactions. teddy threw the one thing that could've provided info on shawo/toads. what about the non-committal noobs who've parroted what everyone else has said? i've been trying to put together my own judgments thus far. inc my list just to clear the air
i'm not fully buying this excuse. the easy wagoning target would've been toads or shawo. why try to start another? also, you completely halted the conversation between the two of them by shifting the topic. i wanted to see more about what they had to say
inc my list (copied from toads, i'm lazy):
- Lothitine - null/scum lean Loth is too new for me to tell if it's ignorance or AI. I want to see their play in the upcoming days, because the contribution to town has been meaningless and parroting imo. Leaning on ignorance due to mixing up Epona and Punchy.
- Ness - town lean/null For reasons I stated earlier. The 2KP misunderstanding leans away from mafia.
- Teddy345 - null/scum lean Faux bandwagon could've thrown town off. Best case: Shawo and Toads are town. Worst case: Shawo and Toads are mafia. Why did he immediately back off and get defensive instead of justifying his reasoning, especially if this was to benefit town? Why throw an easy wagon just because not enough attention was on him?
- Feferily - null
- Toads - null - Has been aiding town, but also overly explained ATE to Epona. Toads can go either way for me at this point.
- Shawo - null - Somewhat aided town, haven't seen enough to definitively lean either way.
- glow - null
- Sensei - scum lean Not a huge fan of people avoiding the topic at hand. Sensei responds without adding much else beyond parroting. Time zone and not wanting to isn't an excuse if you can type two lines about people.
- Heyden - null
- Aerious - town
- Daniel - town/maf By the way Daniel's taken the lead and seems self-assured, I'm thinking he has PR regardless. Either he's 100% town preparing to take the lead, or 100% mafia preparing to deceive town.
- Pinkshade - null
- Mayor Leaf - town lean/null Mayor Leaf's been contributing and confident. The sole reason it isn't fully town is because someone mentioned this not being on par with a past game. Could be overcompensating, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
- Frogslime - null/scum lean Frogslime hasn't contributed enough for me to tell if it's AI.
- Bianca - null
- Punchy - null/scum lean Punchy contributed something and is double dipping in games. Potential excuse?
- Epona - null Objective player, no way to tell which way she'll go. Leaning town because of gut, but that's not enough of a reason to fully be town-leaning.
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