Mafia June 2020 Mafia Game Thread [DAY 2 ENDS AT 6/20 5PM PST]

wait what? why are you voting for Danny glow?
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Teddy, if you wanna start a wagon, go for Feferily, did they post yet?
Yes Remy already posted.

  1. Lothitine - I
  2. Ness -
  3. Teddy345 - III
  4. Feferily -
  5. Toads - IIII
  6. Shawo - IIII
  7. glow - I
  8. Sensai - II
  9. Heyden -
  10. Aerious - I
  11. Daniel -
  12. Pinkshade -
  13. Mayor Leaf - I
  14. Frogslime - I
  15. Bianca - III
  16. Punchy - II
  17. Epona - II
Look @Biancasbotique we are always pair together, we would be an awesome 3p!
 
The reason I'm specifically looking at ness and not anyone else, is because I don't necessarily find their logic to be at fault. Daniel for example, has a self contained logic that makes sense given the circumstance, and their read reflects that.
can you explain this? what about ness’s logic isn’t at fault if he’s wrong about his read on you?
 
how are you town locking so early


so you’re townleaning towards glow now? what about glows content is making you take her off your list

not necessarily townleaning just moving her from 'null but more scum than the other null category' to 'the other null category'

she's live-reacting to the thread currently and i'm liking the responses. i was initially wary of her bc at the time she had 3 posts total and she was townreading me in 2/3 of them, but obviously her post count is rising now and she's asking questions i wouldn't have thought to ask

full transparency i made my very basic readlist somewhat prematurely and i'd like to add as a disclaimer now that they're all VERY subject to change throughout the rest of this day. i only made the list bc i felt like the conversation had stagnated a bit but i'm not gonna lie i didn't put that much thought into it
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epona i just did a while back...i said i townread you

yes i know but have any of your opinions changed since then/are you feeling stronger about anybody
 
Really hate how they backtracked on their claim after doubling down on it.

I really hate it.
Well then I guess you'll have to live the rest of your life hating it, because... I didn't do anything wrong. I'm just getting taken aback by how gung ho you're going on me for something I see as literally a non-issue.

I gotta be honest, just use your intuition on this one if you really think that I'm scum because I scumlean Shawo lol. I'm going to go eat dinner because I see no value in arguing over it.
 
Ness, I really don't feel like you're interacting with the core arguments I've made. All you've done is told me that I've misrepresent you and nothing else.

Rather than that, why don't you tell me why you have your scumlean and how your thought process has reached the point where you think other people should be lynching me. Don't you think it would be easier to get me lynched if you think I'm mafia than defend yourself by telling me that "I've made a false equivalency?"
 
yea i haven’t taken the new players out of my PoE pool yet. none of them have done anything to townread them yet. frogslime said they were reading so i’m curious what their thoughts are once they’ve read
right now it's entirely been me brute forcing to get a concise answer from other players. as i said, this d1 feels stalled due to a main lead being thrown. i'm not going to parrot, i'd rather be allowed time to form my own opinions and gauge reactions

No problemo. :)
If this continues I will start my AtE routine before I anticipated, pupupupupuu
why did you throw the toads/shawo wagon? that would've been more productive than glow. not having attention on you isn't a concise enough answer. that could've been an easy lead on who to scumlean. now it's ness v shawo, toads is going scot-free for now
 
can you explain this? what about ness’s logic isn’t at fault if he’s wrong about his read on you?

I think I said this already but.

At some point within 2 hours, he went from an "Uncertain scum-lean", to "implying that I was so much so mafia that everyone should be lynching me." To have then backed off to a scum-lean again.

I don't think this is nothing, especially since ness DID double down on the fact that his expression of "giving me a free pass" was to "everyone who didn't want to lynch me."

Hence why I don't think the logic existed. I didn't see any reason why anyone would want me lynched so badly they thought everyone should share their read.
 
Can we move on from the Shawo/Ness/Toads affair, one here is scum, according to the votes from MJ poll, so lets make a wagon, or me whatever, I'm just over this, it's taking us nowhere and it been going on for 20 pages.
 
I think the argument I've made itself is self contained in it's logic. I'm pretty proud of it.

I've made a clear remark as to the claims that ness has made (and he can't say that I misrepresented it because he did CLARIFY what it meant a few pages after.) To which Ness has only responded by saying that I'm... misrepresenting him? Making false equivalencies? Saying that what he did was more than what he actually did?

I mean what "Use your intuition?" That's how you respond to a formally written logical argument as to something you did that I thought was wrong, that you STILL refuse to respond to?
 
Can we move on from the Shawo/Ness/Toads affair, one here is scum, according to the votes from MJ poll, so lets make a wagon, or me whatever, I'm just over this, it's taking us nowhere and it been going on for 20 pages.
bring up who you’d like to talk about then
 
I think I said this already but.

At some point within 2 hours, he went from an "Uncertain scum-lean", to "implying that I was so much so mafia that everyone should be lynching me." To have then backed off to a scum-lean again.

I don't think this is nothing, especially since ness DID double down on the fact that his expression of "giving me a free pass" was to "everyone who didn't want to lynch me."

Hence why I don't think the logic existed. I didn't see any reason why anyone would want me lynched so badly they thought everyone should share their read.
Dude, I’m a cocky ******* and haven’t even written my case out on you, all I have is notes in a google doc. You can scream about me all you want, I never said that you were guaranteed mafia. I see no reason to make some defense over your points... over saying I think you should be eliminated.

I’m on mobile and I’m about to eat food, hold your horses sheesh.
 
No clue, not enough people have posted for me to make any decisions about that.

Also, how do you guys even play mafia if you don't want to read the posts that are PlayerVsPlayer.

It's not like it's a shoutfest, I'm backing what I'm saying with posts that have happened in the game.
 
Can we move on from the Shawo/Ness/Toads affair, one here is scum, according to the votes from MJ poll, so lets make a wagon, or me whatever, I'm just over this, it's taking us nowhere and it been going on for 20 pages.
no, it's not going nowhere. shawo and ness are discussing it. while shawo and ness both could've been using ad hominem, this is the most concise interaction we've had all day. shawo's argument isn't airtight bc of assumptions and ad hominem based on what he expects from ness. ness backtracked, which could entirely be sus.

answer this and don't skim over it:
i'm not fully buying this excuse. the easy wagoning target would've been toads or shawo. why try to start another? also, you completely halted the conversation between the two of them by shifting the topic. i wanted to see more about what they had to say
 
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