Mafia June 2020 Mafia Game Thread [DAY 2 ENDS AT 6/20 5PM PST]

[shawo]

Ness, I think it's interesting that you say I'm screaming at you.

At any point did I make any claims to you that were either aggressive or shout? Or do you just have a problem with me pushing you with your own posts.


You should've written your case about me before you made any claims you weren't able to back-up.

 

[Damniel]

No clue, not enough people have posted for me to make any decisions about that.

Also, how do you guys even play mafia if you don't want to read the posts that are PlayerVsPlayer.

It's not like it's a shoutfest, I'm backing what I'm saying with posts that have happened in the game.

im just curious on how much you’ve thought beyond ness as a scum read. i still don’t see your thought process beyond toads/ness tbh

 

[glow]

Ness is acting EXACTLY like what you would expect mafia to act like. Take my perspective where you know you're town, and a lot of people have a read on you that is relatively unsure, as mafia the best thing you can do is push hard on the first day to make sure there's no chance your partners get lynched.

i mean, to be fair you are pushing very hard on ness without much commentary on much else so i would say that your own logic works against you lol

This is especially given the fact that EVEN should I die, ness wouldn't be pressured any harder.[/QUOTE]

i don't even understand what this is meant to imply.

if you die and flip town, ness would likely be pressured.... if you die as town people tend to start to suspect those that lead the lynch depending on the reasoning and not many townread ness currently as far as i have seen.

 

[Ace Marvel]

shawo who do you think ness could be teamed with

For real Glow just came back, got defensive, fake voted you and puff. lets talk about that.

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of course glow would post as I wrote that....

 

[shawo]

no, it's not going nowhere. shawo and ness are discussing it. while shawo and ness both could've been using ad hominem, this is the most concise interaction we've had all day. shawo's argument isn't airtight bc of assumptions and ad hominem based on what he expects from ness. ness backtracked, which could entirely be sus.

answer this and don't skim over it:
i'm not fully buying this excuse. the easy wagoning target would've been toads or shawo. why try to start another? also, you completely halted the conversation between the two of them by shifting the topic. i wanted to see more about what they had to say

thank you.

I would like to point out that while I have made assumptions in my post, I do think they're supported by the posts in the game, and I did explicitly ask ness to explain themselves.

I also think I've done a decent job of refraining from ad-hominem specifically, although I wouldn't be surprised if I used other fallacies while making my arguments.

 

[glow]

no i broke quotes. again.

this is why i need to preview.

 

[Aerious]

For real Glow just came back, got defensive, fake voted you and puff. lets talk about that.

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of course glow would post as I wrote that....

answer, this is my third time asking:
i'm not fully buying this excuse. the easy wagoning target would've been toads or shawo. why try to start another? also, you completely halted the conversation between the two of them by shifting the topic. i wanted to see more about what they had to say

why throw a lead?

 

[Damniel]

For real Glow just came back, got defensive, fake voted you and puff. lets talk about that.

i provoked the fake vote i don’t see it as AI

what do you think of the people not willing to join your glow wagon

 

[shawo]

1. I don't have many thoughts, and if I did I would have posted them. So all the strong reads I have are posted, I'm not gonna sit down and say who I have a null read on.

2. I would say that it's very common for mafia to double down on a lynch everyone has said they supported, because it's a lot easier to deflect suspicion. This is an incredibly common mafia strategy.

 

[epona]

i honestly think it's very possible that ness/shawo is town/town

if i had to choose a wolf out of the two of them it's ness, but i think that might just be because i find his playstyle a bit offputting in general

 

[shawo]

Out of everything that ace did that I had a problem with, it wasn't "why they did a fake vote" but "how they did the fake vote."

I mean really it was NAI, and Ace DID post the few reads they got out of it.

 

[toadsworthy]

reading shawo's theory gives me a headache, I'm glad I'm not the only one quite following it.... if anyone else can explain it in more simple terms I'd appreciate it.

The only thing I could grasp out of it was saying that ness was seemingly inciting an elimination on Shawo rather than directly getting involved which I agree is shady, but I don't necessarily see it fully as ness being set as scummy

 

[Damniel]

1. I don't have many thoughts, and if I did I would have posted them. So all the strong reads I have are posted, I'm not gonna sit down and say who I have a null read on.

i mean we’re almost 500 posts in i’m surprised you don’t have much thoughts. like yea i get you’re sus of ness but i struggle with understanding your thought process on anything else so far

 

[Aerious]

i honestly think it's very possible that ness/shawo is town/town

if i had to choose a wolf out of the two of them it's ness, but i think that might just be because i find his playstyle a bit offputting in general

i'm wondering why ace and toads are getting off scot-free rn. we have interaction between ness and shawo, ness is typing a post, so there's not much to discuss until then. ace has ignored my msg 3 times, idk what toads is doing

Out of everything that ace did that I had a problem with, it wasn't "why they did a fake vote" but "how they did the fake vote."

I mean really it was NAI, and Ace DID post the few reads they got out of it.

what reads? none seem to hold up/be enough to claim mafia. seemed like a waste imo

 

[glow]

For real Glow just came back, got defensive, fake voted you and puff. lets talk about that.

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of course glow would post as I wrote that....

huh where'd i get defensive

 

[epona]

reading shawo's theory gives me a headache, I'm glad I'm not the only one quite following it.... if anyone else can explain it in more simple terms I'd appreciate it.

The only thing I could grasp out of it was saying that ness was seemingly inciting an elimination on Shawo rather than directly getting involved which I agree is shady, but I don't necessarily see it fully as ness being set as scummy

i can't really explain it bc i'm a bit (???) but his frustration and conviction reads genuine to me

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i'm wondering why ace and toads are getting off scot-free rn. we have interaction between ness and shawo, ness is typing a post, so there's not much to discuss until then. ace has ignored my msg 3 times, idk what toads is doing


what reads? none seem to hold up/be enough to claim mafia. seemed like a waste imo

toads i would like to revisit also

as far as teddy/ace is concerned honestly his playstyle is baffling and erratic and i really just don't think any of his contribution so far is AI, lol

 

[shawo]

i mean we’re almost 500 posts in i’m surprised you don’t have much thoughts. like yea i get you’re sus of ness but i struggle with understanding your thought process on anything else so far

In those 500 posts, I haven't really seen many posts that mean to me one thing or another, and I don't want to out reads that I am neither confident in nor expect to stay the same.

I do have thoughts but they aren't organized enough for me to want to say them in a forum setting, so I'd rather talk about the things I've noticed in the game that I have a strong opinion of? Which I am?

Rather than asking me for my vague thoughts, if you just read the posts I've made in the game you'll see the things I have a strong opinion of one way or another because I post about it.

 

[toadsworthy]

i'm wondering why ace and toads are getting off scot-free rn. we have interaction between ness and shawo, ness is typing a post, so there's not much to discuss until then. ace has ignored my msg 3 times, idk what toads is doing


what reads? none seem to hold up/be enough to claim mafia. seemed like a waste imo

no one is getting off scot-free, its just a shift in discussion... honestly comments like that cause chaos. Either give comments attached to what you think are alignment indicative or question someone more specifically

 

[Ace Marvel]

i'm not fully buying this excuse. the easy wagoning target would've been toads or shawo. why try to start another? also, you completely halted the conversation between the two of them by shifting the topic. i wanted to see more about what they had to say

Sorry if this sound rude but I don't really care if you don't buy it, I already explain myself, if you don't want to believe it, that's okay, I already said why I did it, but we fake pretend I have other reasoning, if it helps you with your reads.

 

[toadsworthy]

@Ace Marvel glow's daniel vote was a joke