Mafia June 2020 Mafia Game Thread [DAY 2 ENDS AT 6/20 5PM PST]

[Heyden]

i honestly don't see where this argument is going. Like you both don't fully read? Ok

I'm more interested in Bianca's disconnect from the thread and chiming in at random posts without real engagement than what you're arguing right now

It began with me asking why she flipped on her shawo townread so fast, for which she diverted it into a matter of who reads the thread, so no, I have no idea where this is going either.

And I think making a claim that has no logical basis in mafia to be scummy, because it shows a lack of interest in every part of the game.

It's a fairly common trend for mafia to make a mistake in analyzing things because they know to much, for example it wouldn't be surprising if a mafia were to try to pass of a 3 mafia team as an intentional point to deflect suspicion from there being a 4 person mafia team.

I like the 2nd point a lot, because it's something that happens a lot and something I'd do.

 

[Biancasbotique]

It began with me asking why she flipped on her shawo townread so fast, for which she diverted it into a matter of who reads the thread, so no, I have no idea where this is going either.

I like the 2nd point a lot, because it's something that happens a lot and something I'd do.

Heyden, you said first are you reading the threads? not a fair question

 

[Ace Marvel]

Heyden, you said first are you reading the threads? not a fair question

Do you need any help, I could find quotes for you.

 

[toadsworthy]

I think characterizing all emotions in mafia as bad... isn’t necessarily right

every action you do has an emotion behind it whether you like it or noteven in mafia, I think being able to take that into account is what can make an even better player

 

[Heyden]

Your kingmaker game last year Daniel has 16 players with 4 mafia, so I'm not sure why you were hung up over 3 mafia though, especially with an initial 1 KP, but whatever move on.

Heyden, you said first are you reading the threads? not a fair question

You replied to my question with a question. Not sure why you didn't just answer it anyway.

 

[Biancasbotique]

You replied to my question with a question. Not sure why you didn't just answer it anyway.

Your whole premise is me being a sheep based on me not reading the threads. If I was ever a sheep, I would never ever be scumread.

 

[shawo]

I think characterizing all emotions in mafia as bad... isn’t necessarily right

every action you do has an emotion behind it whether you like it or noteven in mafia, I think being able to take that into account is what can make an even better player

Every action you make in mafia has an INTENTION behind it, with emotion being one of the INTENTIONS. Being able to read the intention through the emotional noise is what makes you a better player, and you don't do that by empathizing. Well, I don't. You're free to do that how you choose.

 

[Damniel]

Your kingmaker game last year Daniel has 16 players with 4 mafia, so I'm not sure why you were hung up over 3 mafia though, especially with an initial 1 KP, but whatever move on.

i didn't remember that setup last year but yea its probably 4. 3 maf with 1 KP felt like a stronger reason to change to the old formula than 4 with 1 KP but I didn't think about numbers that deeply

 

[shawo]

Your kingmaker game last year Daniel has 16 players with 4 mafia, so I'm not sure why you were hung up over 3 mafia though, especially with an initial 1 KP, but whatever move on.

This is a sentiment I shared so it's nice to know that someone had a similar thought process as me.

I'll go ahead and say that I think that I think it's pretty towny.

 

[Ace Marvel]

Keeping with you @shawo is a chanllenge and I'm drained, I'm going to bed.

Bianca friends forever!

Daniel hopping to get more insight from you soon. In you I trust.

Toads Have a piece of bread and maybe you'll calm down.

everyone night!

 

[PunchyTheCat]

why not bring up who we should vote then if not shawo. but i do agree that shawo and ace seme pretty easy to beat on

no its null on you. meta just makes me expect your behavior from you so I don't think the disinterest is AI

i don't have a really good scumread yet

just not ace not daniel not mayor not bianca

 

[Heyden]

Your whole premise is me being a sheep based on me not reading the threads. If I was ever a sheep, I would never ever be scumread.

Alright then, but I still don't understand why you made the switch so fast. Obviously your vote is on Punchy, but who's your top 3 for today?

 

[Biancasbotique]

Alright then, but I still don't understand why you made the switch so fast. Obviously your vote is on Punchy, but who's your top 3 for today?

It's not a switch. It's what's going on in my mind..It's like saying..oh i am townreading someone but then again this particular scenario is the other 10% they could not be town.

 

[Heyden]

I’ll just avoid asking questions if you’re gonna divert and/or not answer them at all. I think I’ll park my vote for now.

Might change to Toads if I’m bored.

 

[Biancasbotique]

my top three today are :

glow, pink, and frog

my vote for punchy is placeholder until tomorrow. He wasn't posting as much

 

[glow]

imo i think ace would try to be more of a people pleaser as mafia just off of the kind of person he is

also yes i am disinterested

this game is boring, people are tunneling shawo for reasons that are easy and nai

who's tunneling exactly?

your apathy seems insincere as it doesn't feel like you've read, multiple people have outed reads on shawo that have either changed or are open and can hardly be construed as a tunnel.

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i'm willing to learn more about bianca as well, but it's hard for me to align with votes just bc meta. what's making me curious is about the potential slip from earlier that i noticed while sifting for toads' posts, that epona/her can't both be mafia -> epona town. was this addressed?


1. you did when ace decided to derail. people were still curious about you. you got defensive and went for me as soon as i said that i wanted to learn more
2. you absolutely did. i quoted them. it's borderline inappropriate, and i know for fact it made me uncomfortable. what boggled my mind was the fact that you try and justify your behavior instead of apologizing. can anyone else speak on this?
3. when i played forum mafia, people were hesitant before shooting in the dark for names. if people would name random innos, chances are that they'd be mafia. why is it normalized that people MUST name scum 100% on d1 or that's indicative of guilt? explain it to me prior to me shooting out names/what's going on in my mind to appease you
4. i absolutely do name you as an emotional player. i'd be surprised if i was off the mark. you were null because i wasn't sure if i was scumreading or reading you as hot-headed/quick to act, but reading two people as scum for the same reason (while providing nothing substantial yourself) isn't adding up to me
5. your leads have been shawo and me for the same reason. it's two people with the same cause. i've explained my reasons as well, and by your standards, it shouldn't make me non-committal. i'm more than willing to sift through 40 pages to say who i think is scum, but i want a valid reason from you

i am inexperienced with forum mafia, but i'm not an idiot. is that what you expect from noobs?

can i just say, this post slayed

 

[radical6]

This game really needs a replacement. Please volunteer. Hint himt anyone in OBS since I haven't made obs chat yet.

 

[Heyden]

I pick Jacob

 

[glow]

1. glow
2. Total Post: 10
3. Town Points
   1. Asking asking asking, few post but going with the flow of the game, has the support of some players, so it seems atm the are town leaning for most.
4. Mafia points
   1. I honestly started the wagon randomly, but something is telling me that there is more than what meets the eye, so I will be looking closely.
5. What should we be careful with
   1. Being town read by many yet, the post are low, never forget anyone could be mafia, so don’t let previous meta clouded your judgment.
6. My read SCUM leaning
7. My reasoning
   1. I don't agree with some that instantly town read glow, I will follow with my wagon, but will change vote if it turns unsuccessful. For two main reasons, consistency in what I do, and to follow through with my actions.
8. Epona
   1. Total Post: 72
   2. Town Points
      1. Really friendly and critical, a nice ally, she goes beyond normal reasoning to solve things.
   3. Mafia points
      1. She is a master of disguise, so there will always be the option that she is with the wolves.
   4. What should we be careful with
      1. Like a said a master of disguise, read very carefully, any interaction, could mean something. Be very careful with her.
   5. My read TOWN
   6. My reasoning
   7. Compared to last game I’m feeling that Epona is being more of a real town than a wolf blending in, so I will go with this.

not only is your scumread on me best summarized by "weeeelllll i voted randomly, but regardless i committed myself to it, so here we are"
but you contradict yourself in an incredible fashion by "warning people to be wary of meta" while simultaneously placing a townread on someone that you consider to be skilled at blending in with ~meta from last game~

at least be specific for what meta you think qualifies to be an exception. at least explain what exactly makes you read me as mafia from your gut feeling. until then i'm not taking your reads on me seriously regardless of length.

 

[Heyden]

Who’s your top 3 for lynching today Ms Elf