Mafia June 2020 Mafia Game Thread [DAY 2 ENDS AT 6/20 5PM PST]

do people take posible roles to mean “the game is some combo of these roles” or more “some of these roles could be in the game”
 
I'm work rn so post quality sux

5 is 3 ml
4 is 4 ml
3 is 5 ml

if u assume town has like, any number of prs. 3 mafia would be like flipping mafia and finding out u have terminal cancer.
why try. just die.

not 2 mention the 3 possible mafia roles super suck.

I mean really I would question why u would see that it was an open setup ,see3 mafia roles and go.

"yes, this is right, there are only these 3 mafia"
Yeah okay that makes more sense. I'm more hung up on the fact that it only makes sense for there to be 2 goons?? I'd expect a framer type role for a 4 man mafia but it's Radical's call I guess 🤷
 
It’s kind a fun to see yall argue bout the amount of mafia
 
Mafia team is likely completely rng.

I wouldn't be surprised if the team was (two roleblockers, 1 ninja, 2 goons) or any combination of nonsense.
 
having a tracker and a watcher seems redundant so I would guess its only one of those

jail keeper is a fun role, so I'm eager to see how that plays out if its in the game, and having a doctor is kinda broken if KP is set at one. If we have a good doctor, then rip KP and this game goes longer and even more kill me
 
stop arguing abt roles that the town has, it's not useful rn.
We can talk abt it later right now we are scumhunt boys
 
do people take posible roles to mean “the game is some combo of these roles” or more “some of these roles could be in the game”

the latter


i don't want to talk about PRs too much but i think it's very safe to assume that at least one of the town PRs is not in the game for pure balance reasons
 
I'm just gonna end setup discussion there, at any point more than that we're just going to be arguing over random stuff.

let's just agree that it's...

"more than 3 mafia, can be any amount of prs"

and stop there.
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ok bye now
 
there's 17 players total, 1 KP, and no surprise death mechanisms or TPs. i think it's likely that the scumteam is larger than 3. 3:14 seems unbalanced

anyway if i were scum (which i'm not, if i need to clarify that) i don't really know what i'd gain from revealing how many people are on the scumteam? surely that would just narrow down the POE for town lol
It's not a case in that I could see the value in hypothetical scum!Epona purposefully revealing there is 4 mafia, but it just seemed a bit jarring to state so confidently there's 4 mafia, I was under the assumption that it was a 3 man team with 2 KP, but I concede that since it's only 1 KP for whatever reason it makes more sense that there would be 4.
 
I read the OP again to catch up, something about the fact that epona specifically thinks there is 4 mafia when there are only 3 roles listed under the mafia section of the roles is something that is not stirring right in my stomach.
It's happening again OH MY GLOB ahhhhh!
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Also the theme will be yearbook
 
Idk, it seems a little off that y’all were saying two people are mafia because of taking jokes defensively. i'm not sure if we should judge anyone based on that yet, but i'm also pretty new so,,
i don't think dan is sus. he's gotten the conversation stated, which is getting us talking. this game could be extremely town-sided if we have both a jailkeeper and a doctor, so it's best to get things out in the open/out of the way. was entirely my bad, epona hit the nail on the head, i didn't take it as a joke

Town
Vanilla Townie
Tracker
Watcher
Doctor
Jailkeeper

here r town roles

notice how most of these PRS are investigative/protective mix.unless the scumteam was 3 ninjas team would super suck.

I actually think it's most likely 2 be 5 due to how strong the potential town prs are
at what point do we rc? this should be a pretty easy game depending on what roles we have in town

It's not a case in that I could see the value in hypothetical scum!Epona purposefully revealing there is 4 mafia, but it just seemed a bit jarring to state so confidently there's 4 mafia, I was under the assumption that it was a 3 man team with 2 KP, but I concede that since it's only 1 KP for whatever reason it makes more sense that there would be 4.
having less than 4 would make no sense with the amount of town we have. 3 roles =/= 3 mafia. but as shawo said, it could be up to 5
 
It's not a case in that I could see the value in hypothetical scum!Epona purposefully revealing there is 4 mafia, but it just seemed a bit jarring to state so confidently there's 4 mafia, I was under the assumption that it was a 3 man team with 2 KP, but I concede that since it's only 1 KP for whatever reason it makes more sense that there would be 4.

i wouldn't say using the word 'probably' counts as a confident statement

anyway, between me reading the OP thoroughly and making a rational conclusion about the setup based on numbers, vs you clearly not reading the OP very closely at all and making a completely false assumption based on...nothing (??), i'm gonna go out on a limb and say you look worse here

regardless this conversation is redundant soooo
 
I'm just gonna end setup discussion there, at any point more than that we're just going to be arguing over random stuff.

let's just agree that it's...

"more than 3 mafia, can be any amount of prs"

and stop there.
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ok bye now

comes in to game
strictly talks about game setup
leaves while saying lets stop talking about set up

am i the only one that really doesn't like that?
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by strictly, I mean he only talked about game setup while here
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so shawl if you would like to contribute to any other conversation, I would appreciate it
 
re: shawo, it’s sus.

also, in terms of rc, is it common to ask to do that? seems like it would benefit mafia more. feels too early to ask imo.
 
re: shawo, it’s sus.

also, in terms of rc, is it common to ask to do that? seems like it would benefit mafia more. feels too early to ask imo.

no one was role-claiming, no one really insinuated that? did i miss something? no one should role claim, don't do it
 
re: shawo, it’s sus.

also, in terms of rc, is it common to ask to do that? seems like it would benefit mafia more. feels too early to ask imo.

i feel like it's something that used to be done a lot more when aerious and i were active in forum mafia (2014ish) but there's been a definite move away from roleclaiming without necessity since then. claiming vs not claiming is honestly comes down to a culture thing in different mafia communities but yeah in this case i would definitely not be advocating for RCing
 
re: shawo, it’s sus.

also, in terms of rc, is it common to ask to do that? seems like it would benefit mafia more. feels too early to ask imo.
it's dependent. if we have two protective roles who claim (doctor/jailkeeper), they could protect each other. you're right that it's too early to claim, but at what point do we talk about it?

no one was role-claiming, no one really insinuated that? did i miss something? no one should role claim, don't do it
i was asking at what point do we rc, not that we should rc now, just bc depending on the mixture of town roles, we may have a good chance at an easy game
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i feel like it's something that used to be done a lot more when aerious and i were active in forum mafia (2014ish) but there's been a definite move away from roleclaiming without necessity since then. claiming vs not claiming is honestly comes down to a culture thing in different mafia communities but yeah in this case i would definitely not be advocating for RCing
ya thx. i was asking genuinely, not saying we should all rc now. was also wondering bc of @PunchyTheCat mentioning that someone should rc earlier
 
i wouldn't say using the word 'probably' counts as a confident statement

anyway, between me reading the OP thoroughly and making a rational conclusion about the setup based on numbers, vs you clearly not reading the OP very closely at all and making a completely false assumption based on...nothing (??), i'm gonna go out on a limb and say you look worse here

regardless this conversation is redundant soooo
I don't think it is redundant, and I don't think I made a false assumption at all actually. I find it odd you're deflecting on something that you claim is redundant (why care at all, then?), when all I asked was what made you think there was 4 mafia specifically.

How am I suddenly "worse" when I'm trying to question what made you think 4 mafia as opposed to there only being 3 roles in the semi-open setup? If your assumption is rational, how is mind not?
 
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