Mafia June 2020 Mafia Game Thread [DAY 2 ENDS AT 6/20 5PM PST]

Ace Marvel said:
Scum reading me is town reading Aerious, because I am in the same team that kills my friends when they we clearly town, Punchy wagon was a mistake from the beginning.
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I agree that there's no way you two are MvM, and I also agree that the end of day wagons were both bad.

But currently I'd say I treat both of you as town tbh.
 
voltairenism said:
Ness is a weird one. He feels like a townie but I’m not settling, mostly because sometimes he avoids questions and don’t really push forward except for his own weird agendas? But EOD really changed that for me. He advocated to save Punchy who is a town pretty hard, I would say I can’t think what a maf would gain with this. Even if Punchy was maf, Ness was so openly begging for people unvote him that I would say that is a town move anyway. I just think maf would be way more subtle. *shrug*. Town leaning.

Shawo, hm.. His messages can be quite crypted, but I think it comes from a town POV. He also had a great EoD and because I think Sensai is town, basically it’s the same explanation for Ness. Also I think he is doing an awesome job on keeping the town focused on what’s important on the moment. So town leaning

Teddy/Ace, I have this theory that he is not having as much fun as the other game because he is maf on this one and there is a lot more pressure. This game has way more people too, so I am not really firmly believing on this. I think people are prone to make mistakes and it’s hard to go back on your word, hence why they pushed the glow agenda for so long. I think the problem with that was his tunneling and it got really old really fast and he dropped that too late and it look like he couldn’t make on his mind on his next target for a good while. That’s why I don’t think I’m contracting myself when I said that I couldn’t see a maf protecting punchy because teddy sounds like he pulled a bianca and flipped a coin to choose who he would protect. Idk. Scum leaning.

Sensai… sounds town for me. I think if he was a scum, scum chat would be begging for him to be to post more and try harder idk. As an outsider I couldn’t see why people were voting him lmao
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i agree with this. these are solid points, i'm really happy to see the shift in tone and helpfulness. thanks for your contribution friend
 
Daniel why don't you tell me...

I mean there's only one reason why I would rather have lynched punchy over sensai isn't there?
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I'm at a point in the game where I feel like I have a few really strong townreads, and a few townreads that I'm very comfortable with.

However, there are still a few people that I can't get a good grasp on.

I don't even really know their names.
 
Also Bianca is town lol I retract my whole D1 activity, just trust me.

The most interesting thing about Volt’s post was his stance on Aerious, which I actually think looks good. His Ace read is insightful too bc I’ve never played with Ace. His Glow read mimics Toads’ Glow read and I lowkey thought Toads/Glow could be a scum pair so idk, I’m still unsure on Toads/Volt.

IDK who scumreads are anymore tbh, I’ll look into stuff after my exam this arvo.
 
After rereading a little from yesterday night I am still kinda unsure how to feel hhh,
I think Punchy was definitely being a little weird with trying to start new wagons and stuff
?
I’m still not super sure how I feel ab Sensai tho hh
 
  1. Lothitine idk
  2. Ness idk
  3. Teddy345 townlean but could be maf I guess
  4. Feferily super town definitely
  5. Voltarienism (replaced toads) townlean and I guess I thought toads was maf so I'll remember that
  6. Shawo maf definitely
  7. glow idk
  8. Sensai very town
  9. Heyden fairly town
  10. Aerious pretty townlean but I guess could be maf maybe
  11. Daniel idk
  12. Pinkshade idk

    1. Frogslime idk
    2. Bianca idk

      i really could care less about formatting (I need help, this is awful)

      The reason why Ness and Daniel are my strongest scumreads is that even though I have them marked as "idk" they have the most content out of the other people i have marked idk.

      The fact that they've said so much and still somehow managed to be scummy to me is the reason why I strongly think they're mafia. But given the fact that there's a lot of "idk" the games still messy to me.
 
Damniel said:
Interesting to see a case this early. I think a points 1 and 4 are fair, but a couple of things:

Not sure what you mean by point 2. I think Aerious and I had conflicting reads on toads and you specifically
I was lazy to look all of them but I detected a patter on this from the start
There's no masons possible for point 3 idk why you bring that up
And I quote " to prove a point, ik Sensai is town" so unless they are masons or a neighborhood, how could she know that.

I don't think she's as seasoned as you think she is in point 5 which she's been very adamant about
Playing innocent naive is my thing, I know when I see it

Point 7 is like what?
Unless you can town lock her, there is probable cause, that her actions were scum motivated.
Point 8 I would give heyden a pass because his vote when through if you see Host's vote tally
Yes but I wanted a really strong closing statement, and sound better that way, that is me being extra


Half of these point aren't that strong but I think points 1 and 4 are fair and could use more investigation. Her switch to punchy is very odd despite being so adamant about sensai before (who I think could still be scum)

I'm curious of what you think about Glow's EoD since you still seem adamant she's scum
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Lothitine said:
After rereading a little from yesterday night I am still kinda unsure how to feel hhh,
I think Punchy was definitely being a little weird with trying to start new wagons and stuff
?
I’m still not super sure how I feel ab Sensai tho hh
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How active were you towards end of day?

I think it's actually correct to not townread Sensai unless you were very active towards end of day.
 
shawo said:
  1. Lothitine idk
  2. Ness idk
  3. Teddy345 townlean but could be maf I guess
  4. Feferily super town definitely
  5. Voltarienism (replaced toads) townlean and I guess I thought toads was maf so I'll remember that
  6. Shawo maf definitely
  7. glow idk
  8. Sensai very town
  9. Heyden fairly town
  10. Aerious pretty townlean but I guess could be maf maybe
  11. Daniel idk
  12. Pinkshade idk
    1. Frogslime idk
    2. Bianca idk

      i really could care less about formatting (I need help, this is awful)

      The reason why Ness and Daniel are my strongest scumreads is that even though I have them marked as "idk" they have the most content out of the other people i have marked idk.

      The fact that they've said so much and still somehow managed to be scummy to me is the reason why I strongly think they're mafia. But given the fact that there's a lot of "idk" the games still messy to me.
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Ness/Daniel as a team would never let d1 get that explosive, way too chaotic, they are calculated and cold, a game full of emotions would be their doom. You are a misguided townie, let me guide you. :)
 
shawo said:
How active were you towards end of day?

I think it's actually correct to not townread Sensai unless you were very active towards end of day.
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I wasn’t very active because I was helping my sister dogsit hh
 
The reason I specifically think sensai is always town is because -

1. They have 0 sense of self preservation.
- This isn't always a towntell, but given the circumstances I think it was a very not mafia thing to do.
Mafia has no motivation to get themselves killed, especially since if they REALLY needed help they could've used the quicktopic/gotten coached.

2. For some reason... they were there at the end??? And when there was a chance for punchy to get lynched, they STILL hammered themselves???
-Punchy didn't flip mafia, so it's not as if Sensai was trying to protect Punchy the Ninja or anything.

3. Even before end of day what they did didn't really make senseas mafia. They tried really hard to start a lynch on me that completely fizzled out. This ones iffer though.
 
Why would you play innocent and naive? if you're town and don't need to do that what '

It's not a strong closing statement when it's just wrong. I think Heyden's last minute switch is quite odd

shawo said:
How active were you towards end of day?

I think it's actually correct to not townread Sensai unless you were very active towards end of day.
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She was liking posts irrc so I think she was at least somewhat present

Ace Marvel said:
Ness/Daniel as a team would never let d1 get that explosive, way too chaotic, they are calculated and cold, a game full of emotions would be their doom. You are a misguided townie, let me guide you. :)
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Chaotic EoD is the best thing for maf in any situation.You've never played with Ness or scum me so i don't know why you're assuming our metas?

that being said, @Aerious 's last post on "to prove a point I know Punchy is town" is definitely the odd and very antitown to do
 
Daniel did effectively lead both of the two lynches happening that day.

If you're trying to imply that as mafia they would have more control?
 
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