Mafia June 2020 Mafia Game Thread [DAY 2 ENDS AT 6/20 5PM PST]

aerious/ace is something that I am still trying to figure out because I really can't understand what both of them are doing lol ace is so caotic but as I said I honestly think mafia should be more subtle, but maybe it's a big brain move. its like yea mafia maybe wouldnt do that, but town would do that even less,, aerious is still confusing and doesnt look on big pic instead of their own agendas but i still giving the pass to see if it's their own weird playstyle
stemming off of this point, do you think mafia could be banking on the fact that it's ace v. me right now? in your own words, what can i be doing to look at the bigger picture?

also @Aerious quick thing but who do you think teddy/ace is teamed up with and do you think they share the plan to frame you
this is incredibly tricky to say. reasoning for a few has been due to meta, but i haven't played a game w anyone in here to judge myself. shawo went to null from town-leaning for the sole reason that i town-leaned him bc mechanics discussion, but this is apparently his normal. also, we have a lot of people who aren't currently posting/contributing in conversation. i thought toads was 100% mafia because of him starting the game scumhunting aggressively, but you've been reasonably helpful. daniel can go either way, as i've been saying from the start -- this game has been prepped for him to take the lead, which could aid mafia if he is. evasiveness has been causing me to side eye with punchy, bianca, ace, and others. it could be people ace read as town in his graphics used to deceive. punchy also mentioned that fefer (sp?)'s quick improvement in post quality could be due to mafia writing it. there's too much uncertainty because of people in the shadows atm

really and truly, the players in the shadows need to be speaking more. not given a pass for parroting

@Aerious Yeah I did think the already written post in preparation for the beginning of D2 was a bit weird, I guess he wasn’t expecting himself to die despite putting himself as a townread lol. I don’t think it’s a frame though, at all. Epona died because she was heavily townread.
exactly, graphic made and post prepped. he knew he'd be alive this day
 

btw can you explain your last minute switch to punchy when you said you thought both were town
I had a hunch Punchy was town based on something he said, and now that he’s flipped it makes more sense. I voted him bc I panicked, that’s all honestly.

As for Sensai, I didn’t really know but his EoD activity screamed town, then his goodbye post make me freak out and switch, not that I made it on time, but either way I do believe it was a T vs T.
 
stemming off of this point, do you think mafia could be banking on the fact that it's ace v. me right now? in your own words, what can i be doing to look at the bigger picture?


this is incredibly tricky to say. reasoning for a few has been due to meta, but i haven't played a game w anyone in here to judge myself. shawo went to null from town-leaning for the sole reason that i town-leaned him bc mechanics discussion, but this is apparently his normal. also, we have a lot of people who aren't currently posting/contributing in conversation. i thought toads was 100% mafia because of him starting the game scumhunting aggressively, but you've been reasonably helpful. daniel can go either way, as i've been saying from the start -- this game has been prepped for him to take the lead, which could aid mafia if he is. evasiveness has been causing me to side eye with punchy, bianca, ace, and others. it could be people ace read as town in his graphics used to deceive. punchy also mentioned that fefer (sp?)'s quick improvement in post quality could be due to mafia writing it. there's too much uncertainty because of people in the shadows atm

really and truly, the players in the shadows need to be speaking more. not given a pass for parroting


exactly, graphic made and post prepped. he knew he'd be alive this day
If it makes things easier you can just call me Remy! And I’m glad you thought my posts improved in quality! But I don’t think they did. I’m also very unsure of what to post now but I’ve decided to give up on sleeping and will finish typing up my day2 reads soon!
 
I had a hunch Punchy was town based on something he said, and now that he’s flipped it makes more sense. I voted him bc I panicked, that’s all honestly.

As for Sensai, I didn’t really know but his EoD activity screamed town, then his goodbye post make me freak out and switch, not that I made it on time, but either way I do believe it was a T vs T.
your vote did make it according to kallie's final post tally

there was a quick pile onto punchy in the last 2 minutes and all of it seems very off to me
 
your vote did make it according to kallie's final post tally

there was a quick pile onto punchy in the last 2 minutes and all of it seems very off to me
I posted at the hour mark so maybe that counts.
Do you think Sensai could still be mafia though?

The people who flipped: Mayor Leaf who’s town. Feferily who screams town to me, Aerious who I kinda townlean, and me, I’m town I think.

I never really thought much about the last minute pile as anything tbh.
 
I posted at the hour mark so maybe that counts.
Do you think Sensai could still be mafia though?

The people who flipped: Mayor Leaf who’s town. Feferily who screams town to me, Aerious who I kinda townlean, and me, I’m town I think.

I never really thought much about the last minute pile as anything tbh.
How are you not sure if you’re town or not?
 
Just to clarify - I think the "ace/aerious thing" isn't something worth looking into rn. If we can all agree that it's super unlikely for them both to be mvm, and that there's a decent chance it's tvt rather than tvm, it's just not worth going into - especially given the circumstance of.

"mafia might be banking on forcing a tvt lynch."

Specially since that's something that I think happened yesterday.

Also Daniel you can say that something looks suspicious but you'd have to give a valid reason for it.

You claim that there's 3 mafia, so you'll have to somehow explain why 4 people flipped a vote off one person to another person under that framework.

And even with 4 mafia it's still. Not really make sense for 3 mafia to superflip off of a fourth mafia after the fourth mafia tries to kill themself.
 
stemming off of this point, do you think mafia could be banking on the fact that it's ace v. me right now? in your own words, what can i be doing to look at the bigger picture?


this is incredibly tricky to say. reasoning for a few has been due to meta, but i haven't played a game w anyone in here to judge myself. shawo went to null from town-leaning for the sole reason that i town-leaned him bc mechanics discussion, but this is apparently his normal. also, we have a lot of people who aren't currently posting/contributing in conversation. i thought toads was 100% mafia because of him starting the game scumhunting aggressively, but you've been reasonably helpful. daniel can go either way, as i've been saying from the start -- this game has been prepped for him to take the lead, which could aid mafia if he is. evasiveness has been causing me to side eye with punchy, bianca, ace, and others. it could be people ace read as town in his graphics used to deceive. punchy also mentioned that fefer (sp?)'s quick improvement in post quality could be due to mafia writing it. there's too much uncertainty because of people in the shadows atm

really and truly, the players in the shadows need to be speaking more. not given a pass for parroting


exactly, graphic made and post prepped. he knew he'd be alive this day
honestly my question to you is the answer to your first question. the big picture being like for example you can say ace is framing you but you also have to take in consideration his teammates voice on this. i think you cant judge just one person action indiviually. also a very good point on him doing a graphic bc he knew you wouldnt be killed
 
And finally - I do think that Ace making a super nice infographic for the dayflip doesn't inherently mean "they think they'll live." And even if it did it could be under the circumstance that they were jailkept (for example.) I think it's NAI but the fact that you were thinking about that is probably a town thing rather than not.
 
i mean that my question about team mates is something that u can do to look at the bigger picture
 
And finally - I do think that Ace making a super nice infographic for the dayflip doesn't inherently mean "they think they'll live." And even if it did it could be under the circumstance that they were jailkept (for example.) I think it's NAI but the fact that you were thinking about that is probably a town thing rather than not.
Hmmmmmmm....
 
@Heyden do you also believe volt is still scum since you scum read the toads slot

if we believe all 3 were town then i don’t see how the votes moved around so much in the final hour if scum had no real reason to move around if all resulted in a ML. i want to think one of sensai or volt are scum but I'll give volt time to prove himself and ill have to reconsider sensai with the voting behavior around him

Also Daniel you can say that something looks suspicious but you'd have to give a valid reason for it.

You claim that there's 3 mafia, so you'll have to somehow explain why 4 people flipped a vote off one person to another person under that framework.

And even with 4 mafia it's still. Not really make sense for 3 mafia to superflip off of a fourth mafia after the fourth mafia tries to kill themself.

i mean obvs the last minute switches aren't all scum. town panic can happen but to think everyone who switch was pure doesn't sit right with me. i could see at least one of the switches being scum but def it can't be all of them
 
Shawo, you are seeing thing are not, I like that. But I'm always prepared with my graphics. if I died, I will post them in the ops chat later on, where ever we end up after being dead.
 
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