Mafia June 2020 Mafia Game Thread [DAY 2 ENDS AT 6/20 5PM PST]

Why save Sensai over Punchy? I just don't see that as positive for anyone.
 
i mean that my question about team mates is something that u can do to look at the bigger picture
there are too many conditionals to make a plausible answer at this point.
for example: if remy is mafia -> seasoned players guiding them
we need more players contributing to discussion in order to form a bigger picture. rn we aren't sure if there's 3 mafia or 4 based on kp per shawo and daniel's discussion

And finally - I do think that Ace making a super nice infographic for the dayflip doesn't inherently mean "they think they'll live." And even if it did it could be under the circumstance that they were jailkept (for example.) I think it's NAI but the fact that you were thinking about that is probably a town thing rather than not.
this is under the conditional that he was jk. even so, he knew that i'd be alive. why do you think this is?
Shawo, you are seeing thing are not, I like that. But I'm always prepared with my graphics. if I died, I will post them in the ops chat later on, where ever we end up after being dead.
in reference to @shawo this isn't enough to assume that i would still be standing at this point

Why save Sensai over Punchy? I just don't see that as positive for anyone.
you think sensai is scum? why?
 
The way I see it, it was a town vs town wagon. Mafia were sitting comfy and had no reason to change their votes.

Feferily is new to forum mafia, I don’t see her causing random chaos at EoD as mafia, and if she did that was pretty bold.

Aerious is new some people say she’s experienced she says she’s not idk who to believe. That’s my main issue with Aerious, not knowing their experience so I’m passing them with a townlean just because lol. I think they’re grasping at straws a lot, but I feel it’s more town motivated, idk. Aerious is a hard one to read for me, but the last minute panic, yeah idk.

Leaf flipped town.
Me town : )

>>>As for Volt, I’ve given him the benefit of doubt, I’ve gone sus to null because his reads list was well developed and brought up good points that align with mine, but I’m not convinced (based on the Toads slot)
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How are you not sure if you’re town or not?
I’m jk I am town. Are you town?
 
we have nearly 2 days and your case is weak.
Make it stronger, together we will make it better.

Heyden risked their vote no being considered # + bote + 7:00, seems like a joke,
Aerious on the other hand was 6:59 last real minute, and I was watching like a falcon, we had 40 seconds before her vote, and Punchy was already sentence to die, so it was unnecessary, know Mayor started this flip a roo, so know she was town, I'm concerned over the last 3 votes.

@Heyden why you voted like #bote Punchy?
 
V is next to B on the keyboard, I was rushing to get my vote in, it’s not a facade trust me.
 
why wait to the last possible second? alll your other votes are ##vote ##unvote, which I find weird, it might just be me, but I leave my vote ready in cases like this.
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V is next to B on the keyboard, I was rushing to get my vote in, it’s not a facade trust me.
Why punchy over Sensai, I saw punchy as town all along, but I can understand why some of you saw him as scum, yet by that time it was clear it was probably a tvt wagon, so why vote punchy when it was not even needed?

What would Sensai town, a player that stated they were unmotivated, ready to be kill off, and voted for themself, to town?
 
Aerious is new some people say she’s experienced she says she’s not idk who to believe. That’s my main issue with Aerious, not knowing their experience so I’m passing them with a townlean just because lol. I think they’re grasping at straws a lot, but I feel it’s more town motivated, idk. Aerious is a hard one to read for me, but the last minute panic, yeah idk.
clarifying in case you missed it btw, i've played 6 forum games 6 years ago and a few tos games ~3 years ago. i dunno why people are reading me as seasoned/more experienced than i am. ace has no clue about my experience. i've played mafia w no one here

also explained my motives for swap
 
I posted at the hour mark so maybe that counts.
Do you think Sensai could still be mafia though?

The people who flipped: Mayor Leaf who’s town. Feferily who screams town to me, Aerious who I kinda townlean, and me, I’m town I think.

I never really thought much about the last minute pile as anything tbh.
im not too sure on sensai anymore and I wish sensai died instead of punchy since i think he's just gonna continue giving unmotivated and contradictory reads which will make it hard to continue reading him
 
I was being a bit of sheep....sheeperson at the end vote, I can say. I couldn’t choose between punchy and Sensai at the end because both cases seemed sort of weak and odd and I had almost decided to vote somebody else but was worried it wouldn’t count for anything proper and would make me seem sus. I’ve also noticed a few mistaken paths of thought I took yesterday. Such as putting Daniel as more of a townie in my head because he kept track of detail so well and seemed to be doing more genuine work than lots of us. And I was also a bit spooked by some of the personal spats on day1 >w<‘ And while I’m honored that people think I’m being guided, I am sadly not and still a bit hesitant at stating my opinions. But I’ve realized that that would just be working against the town in the long run and have decided to just be open and respond to any little thing that makes my mind twitch.

I’m going to briefly read the last ten pages of day1 and then post some actual reads. And sorry for any errors in typing! On mobile and I am a sleepy sheepy.
 
@Feferily Remy what made you switch to punchy, did Mayor Leaf had an influence, it was Aerious or maybe Heyden, I'm not scum reading you, but I'm really curious of you motivation. I hope you see this when you wake up.
 
@Feferily Remy what made you switch to punchy, did Mayor Leaf had an influence, it was Aerious or maybe Heyden, I'm not scum reading you, but I'm really curious of you motivation. I hope you see this when you wake up.

I sorta explained why up there! ^w^ Gave up on the sleep for now. But it was a big sheep move. I didn’t read either as scum but I was also panicking during my first vote and I wanted the vote to count and not... cause a stir?
 
I was being a bit of sheep....sheeperson at the end vote, I can say. I couldn’t choose between punchy and Sensai at the end because both cases seemed sort of weak and odd and I had almost decided to vote somebody else but was worried it wouldn’t count for anything proper and would make me seem sus. I’ve also noticed a few mistaken paths of thought I took yesterday. Such as putting Daniel as more of a townie in my head because he kept track of detail so well and seemed to be doing more genuine work than lots of us. And I was also a bit spooked by some of the personal spats on day1 >w<‘ And while I’m honored that people think I’m being guided, I am sadly not and still a bit hesitant at stating my opinions. But I’ve realized that that would just be working against the town in the long run and have decided to just be open and respond to any little thing that makes my mind twitch.

I’m going to briefly read the last ten pages of day1 and then post some actual reads. And sorry for any errors in typing! On mobile and I am a sleepy sheepy.

I have no more experience that you do, and I'm full on crazy this game, don't worry too much, worst case are bad, we kill you, they are really good, mafia kills you, you go to the ops chat and see the game, and if you liked the experience, you play the next. So feel free to share your opinions. think why they might be weak, and try to answer those questions yourself, so you can defend them.
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I sorta explained why up there! ^w^ Gave up on the sleep for now. But it was a big sheep move. I didn’t read either as scum but I was also panicking during my first vote and I wanted the vote to count and not... cause a stir?
Sheep of whom? which player you trusted to do that move? I'm asking because I want to look deeper into them.
 
why wait to the last possible second? alll your other votes are ##vote ##unvote, which I find weird, it might just be me, but I leave my vote ready in cases like this.
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Why punchy over Sensai, I saw punchy as town all along, but I can understand why some of you saw him as scum, yet by that time it was clear it was probably a tvt wagon, so why vote punchy when it was not even needed?

What would Sensai town, a player that stated they were unmotivated, ready to be kill off, and voted for themself, to town?
I think you’re delving a little too much into my vote psychology, it’s not that deep. I panicked, and moved my vote from Toads onto Punchy, that’s that.

Yes I believed they were a TvT, key word believe. I didn’t -know- they were town, but Sensai’s last minute ATE post goodbye thing just pushed me over the edge to believe that he WAS town, with Shawo simultaneously begging me to move my vote.

I don’t understand your last question.
 
If Daniel like I said survives N2 I will heavily assume he is scum.
My wagon is permanent, even if I'm the only one in it. But other people in my misfits cater I would consider are pink shade, yes I understand yesterday situation, but you can sus someone and be nice to them, unlike others, but I regress, Shawo is the most townie in my book, and Volt is correcting Toads, but the roles don't change.
 
clarifying in case you missed it btw, i've played 6 forum games 6 years ago and a few tos games ~3 years ago. i dunno why people are reading me as seasoned/more experienced than i am. ace has no clue about my experience. i've played mafia w no one here

also explained my motives for swap
Wow I searched your TBT mafia wiki page you’re ancient
 
I think you’re delving a little too much into my vote psychology, it’s not that deep. I panicked, and moved my vote from Toads onto Punchy, that’s that.

Yes I believed they were a TvT, key word believe. I didn’t -know- they were town, but Sensai’s last minute ATE post goodbye thing just pushed me over the edge to believe that he WAS town, with Shawo simultaneously begging me to move my vote.

I don’t understand your last question.

Punchy ended with 9 votes, Sensai with 5, you not changing the vote was 8-6, maybe is just my play style but 40 seconds between Ae vote was enough to see this. but it might just be me, at the end your vote didn't affect the outcome, that is what Im saying the flipping vote actually was Aerious, and yours was unexpected to everyone, that is one of my arguments of her being scum
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Why kill epona and not Daniel, why not Daniel/Epona instead of Mayor/Epona.
a- Daniel was protected
b- Daniel is scum
c- Mafia is crazy

I see Mafia gaming more of killing Daniel than Epona.
 
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