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no otherkin are not under the label lol
tbh LGBT+ is easy for me to remember. Otherkin are not related to intersex people at all. They are a completely different group.

Have no idea why people want the E for everyone. If it was for everyone then we wouldn't need this label to start with.

After looking into it a bit more I think I'd just made my own strange mental connection between all these things.
I had thought otherkin were under the same bracket as two-spirits just with an animal instead of the opposing gender. I didn't know 2S was just a native american thing, and only for feminine men and masculine women. ~ though they do class intersex people as 2S in most cases.

I guess otherkin don't strictly come into lgbt family at all though. Seeing as you could totally be a heterosexual otherkin.
 
I personally think that labels are, overrated. Cliche, I know, but in reality, labels are society's subtle way of putting us in a comfy compartment. By defining ourselves with labels, yes, we can obtain pride in who we are, but we also are giving into society's demands of knowing who you are, who you love, etc. The world doesn't need to have an explanation for everything, least of all love. By labeling someone's sexuality, I consider it as a form of limiting the potential of love in this world. I personally identify as a lesbian, but I say this to everyone that I meet: "Sexuality is a spectrum. Nobody is 100% straight or gay, one gender or another or none at all, etc. What matters is acceptance and love between people. I still maintain attraction for men even though I'm sexually attracted to women. I could have romantic feelings for a man, but may not be able to be sexually attracted to him. It's not black and white." The world's problem is that it feels the need to view things in absolutes. I refuse to allow the love in my life to be limited by that.
 
I'm straight, but also an ex-lesbian.. Used to be attracted towards girls and the thought of being in a relationship with a male disturbed me. Now, I'm in a relationship with a male and I can't IMAGINE being in a relationship with a girl. There should be more support for transoriented people, because as far as I've seen, people hate ex-gays and doesn't accept the fact that they changed their orientation.
 
I personally think that labels are, overrated. Cliche, I know, but in reality, labels are society's subtle way of putting us in a comfy compartment. By defining ourselves with labels, yes, we can obtain pride in who we are, but we also are giving into society's demands of knowing who you are, who you love, etc. The world doesn't need to have an explanation for everything, least of all love. By labeling someone's sexuality, I consider it as a form of limiting the potential of love in this world. I personally identify as a lesbian, but I say this to everyone that I meet: "Sexuality is a spectrum. Nobody is 100% straight or gay, one gender or another or none at all, etc. What matters is acceptance and love between people. I still maintain attraction for men even though I'm sexually attracted to women. I could have romantic feelings for a man, but may not be able to be sexually attracted to him. It's not black and white." The world's problem is that it feels the need to view things in absolutes. I refuse to allow the love in my life to be limited by that.

I basically agree with what you're saying, but I think we should still support those who choose to label themselves. It's fine that you don't want to use a label for yourself, but others may want to, and I don't think anyone should be down on them for that.

As for me, I prefer to use a label. Idk why, but it just makes me feel more comfortable about my sexuality. If my label changes, so be it. People who freak out about something like that aren't worth my time.
 
I'm straight, but also an ex-lesbian.. Used to be attracted towards girls and the thought of being in a relationship with a male disturbed me. Now, I'm in a relationship with a male and I can't IMAGINE being in a relationship with a girl. There should be more support for transoriented people, because as far as I've seen, people hate ex-gays and doesn't accept the fact that they changed their orientation.

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One of my biggest pet peeves is when people fling around their sexualities/orientations like they're your favourite pokemon that change every generation.

There's no such this as being an "ex-lebsian"... Do you think that you can just turn off who you feel attracted to whenever you feel like it?

i'm ex trans, i used to be straight but now im gay but i used to be bisexual too but then i decided that i didnt want to be attracted to women, but im thinking of reverting back to being heterosexual because dating a female wouldnt be all that bad y'know, and I gotta keep up with the latest trends too, so that means that I'm also asexual, as I was ex-pansexual
 
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One of my biggest pet peeves is when people fling around their sexualities/orientations like they're your favourite pokemon that change every generation.

There's no such this as being an "ex-lebsian"... Do you think that you can just turn off who you feel attracted to whenever you feel like it?

i'm ex trans, i used to be straight but now im gay but i used to be bisexual too but then i decided that i didnt want to be attracted to women, but im thinking of reverting back to being heterosexual because dating a female wouldnt be all that bad y'know, and I gotta keep up with the latest trends too, so that means that I'm also asexual, as I was ex-pansexual

thank u

ur either this or that or that or whatever
that person can say that theyre bi and used to be mainly attracted to girls but now is mainly attracted to guys
or whatever
the term ex lesbian is actually p funny
like
an ex convict
 
what abou the other one

gelato

uh pretty sure they made that up too lol

Uh people's sexualities change? Sexuality is fluid. I don't find it odd? People are still discovering themselves, smh.

also I don't believe two spirit is related to intersex but whatever
 
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One of my biggest pet peeves is when people fling around their sexualities/orientations like they're your favourite pokemon that change every generation.

There's no such this as being an "ex-lebsian"... Do you think that you can just turn off who you feel attracted to whenever you feel like it?

i'm ex trans, i used to be straight but now im gay but i used to be bisexual too but then i decided that i didnt want to be attracted to women, but im thinking of reverting back to being heterosexual because dating a female wouldnt be all that bad y'know, and I gotta keep up with the latest trends too, so that means that I'm also asexual, as I was ex-pansexual

Yes.
I mean, there are people who experiment, at the same time say they're bi/pan/Demi/whatever else, and then once they're done experimenting (ie; figured out their sexuality), they'll identify as something else. Just because you have sexual relations with a person doesn't mean you're instantly that sexuality.
So yes, at least IMO, "ex lesbian" is something legit, and shouldn't be laughed at?? I mean if I once dated a girl, before I figured out my sexuality, then later discovered I was gay, and had zero interest in women, I would say that I used to be/identify as straight, but soon later realized I'm gay. I could have sex with a girl (whilst being gay), and years later say "I used to be in a heterosexual relationship, but now I'm gay" - that's just a different way of wording "ex straight".
It's the exact same with being trans, some people literally don't figure out they're transgender until they're in their 40's... I know someone whose aunt discovered she was trans when in her late 40's, and as a result, began transitioning. To me, that does fall under the "I was cisgender but now I'm trans", which is the exact same as saying "I used to be a lesbian, but now I'm straight". There is no time when and when you shouldn't say your what sexuality, and when you should or shouldn't say you're "ex" that
It is something that some people don't discover until late in life,and because if that, I think they should be able to say "I am "ex" ...." Simply because you "changed" your sexuality, but in reality you actually just realized apwhat your sexuality is. It was just something that was always there, you just didn't realize it until late. Whilst I don't thing using "ex" is the correct term to describe it, it's pretty similar and idk why you felt the need to face palm??

Plus, let's not forget, there was that guy who was a straight football player, had a stroke, and then after his stroke, was gay and became a hairdresser... To me, that definitely counts as being "ex straight", it was a part of him that changed as a result of something else.

I don't think "ex ...." Is the right term to use (it sounds weird), but I do believe it is a thing and it isn't somethin that should be looked down upon


Idk I usually avoid this thread because it's full of crazies but I felt like that was something that needed to be said.
 
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Yes.
I mean, there are people who experiment, at the same time say they're bi/pan/Demi/whatever else, and then once they're done experimenting (ie; figured out their sexuality), they'll identify as something else. Just because you have sexual relations with a person doesn't mean you're instantly that sexuality.
So yes, at least IMO, "ex lesbian" is something legit, and shouldn't be laughed at?? I mean if I once dated a girl, before I figured out my sexuality, then later discovered I was gay, and had zero interest in women, I would say that I used to be/identify as straight, but soon later realized I'm gay. I could have sex with a girl (whilst being gay), and years later say "I used to be in a heterosexual relationship, but now I'm gay" - that's just a different way of wording "ex straight".
It's the exact same with being trans, some people literally don't figure out they're transgender until they're in their 40's... I know someone whose aunt discovered she was trans when in her late 40's, and as a result, began transitioning. To me, that does fall under the "I was cisgender but now I'm trans", which is the exact same as saying "I used to be a lesbian, but now I'm straight". There is no time when and when you shouldn't say your what sexuality, and when you should or shouldn't say you're "ex" that
It is something that some people don't discover until late in life,and because if that, I think they should be able to say "I am "ex" ...." Simply because you "changed" your sexuality, but in reality you actually just realized apwhat your sexuality is. It was just something that was always there, you just didn't realize it until late. Whilst I don't thing using "ex" is the correct term to describe it, it's pretty similar and idk why you felt the need to face palm??

Plus, let's not forget, there was that guy who was a straight football player, had a stroke, and then after his stroke, was gay and became a hairdresser... To me, that definitely counts as being "ex straight", it was a part of him that changed as a result of something else.

I don't think "ex ...." Is the right term to use (it sounds weird), but I do believe it is a thing and it isn't somethin that should be looked down upon


Idk I usually avoid this thread because it's full of crazies but I felt like that was something that needed to be said.

Granted, that stroke case is something that's extremely rare.

Idk, I don't particularly think you can actually be an "ex-(whatever)" outside of the football player case you mentioned. Sure, you can repress those feelings but you're probably on the bisexual scale.
 
I'm straight, but also an ex-lesbian.. Used to be attracted towards girls and the thought of being in a relationship with a male disturbed me. Now, I'm in a relationship with a male and I can't IMAGINE being in a relationship with a girl. There should be more support for transoriented people, because as far as I've seen, people hate ex-gays and doesn't accept the fact that they changed their orientation.

why does this sound so silly to me? imagine saying that in real life.

"i'd date you, but I can't. I'm an ex-gay!"

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Ahaha. The best.
 
Anyone paint their ring finger pink for Leelah? I'm a transgender so what happened really struck me and my friends, especially knowing I nearly did the same just about a year ago. It's so hard to believe that people can still be so prejudiced. I can't even use either restroom without fear of daily beatings, it's just something some don't understand the weight of but should
 
Anyone paint their ring finger pink for Leelah? I'm a transgender so what happened really struck me and my friends, especially knowing I nearly did the same just about a year ago. It's so hard to believe that people can still be so prejudiced. I can't even use either restroom without fear of daily beatings, it's just something some don't understand the weight of but should

Oh crap, I forgot that was today. :( I didn't, but school was canceled today and I haven't gone anywhere, so nobody but me and my family would have seen it.
 
Hey guys, I want to make a formal apology for all the bad I've done on here. I intentionally used sarcasm to degrade people because I don't understand how someone could be so indecisive about what they do and do not like. While there are still some things I don't like or understand about people in this thread, that doesn't give me a right to poke fun. From one man to another man/woman/trans/wolf/grass, I am sorry.
 
Hey guys, I want to make a formal apology for all the bad I've done on here. I intentionally used sarcasm to degrade people because I don't understand how someone could be so indecisive about what they do and do not like. While there are still some things I don't like or understand about people in this thread, that doesn't give me a right to poke fun. From one man to another man/woman/trans/wolf/grass, I am sorry.

Tina changed you. I'm so proud. :')
 
Anyone paint their ring finger pink for Leelah? I'm a transgender so what happened really struck me and my friends, especially knowing I nearly did the same just about a year ago. It's so hard to believe that people can still be so prejudiced. I can't even use either restroom without fear of daily beatings, it's just something some don't understand the weight of but should

I did! Me and my 2 friends, actually. Didn't notice anyone else do it, but others most likely did.
 
didn't hear about the Leelah thing. I don't have any rings sadly though.

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oh it's a finger lol. don't have pink paint tho
 
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