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Not to bring up arguments again, but I have a question for you all.

Do you believe sexual sanctity ever truly existed or was it an invention of the 20th century? Humans are naturally animal and have animal instincts when it comes to sex and reproduction. I believe sexual promiscuity is more natural than sexual sanctity. Though, that's not to say I believe it's right to go out and screw with people's emotions but if two people are willing to be promiscuous with each other I don't think that harms anything.

I think that something we tend to forget is that just because we have natural instincts, doesn't mean that they always lead to something good. We want what we want when we want it. We've been taught to act a certain way in society and we know that we can't have everything we want, no matter how bad we want it. We can't just do what we want all the time just it feels good and natural.

Edit: Although moral goodness is something different for everyone.
 
I'm sorry but I need to vent a bit...I just called gay again today and I know it's not supposed to be a hurtful term, but when someone uses it in a hurtful way it gets to me...I have to problem with LGBT at all, and I know I'm not supposed to let this stuff get to me, but it just does....I'm sorta in need of consolation right now...sorry if I sound needy or anything....
 
I'm sorry but I need to vent a bit...I just called gay again today and I know it's not supposed to be a hurtful term, but when someone uses it in a hurtful way it gets to me...I have to problem with LGBT at all, and I know I'm not supposed to let this stuff get to me, but it just does....I'm sorta in need of consolation right now...sorry if I sound needy or anything....

If it helps! I think they are just angry, think of them as holding their hate like a hot coal.
Holding on to anger and hate is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one getting burned.
my only other piece of advice is, if you don't judge yourself, then no one else will be able to judge you :) Maybe does it feel bad to be called Gay in that way because somewhere within yourself you might feel that it is bad to be gay?
I hope this helps!

Peace!
 
I'm sorry but I need to vent a bit...I just called gay again today and I know it's not supposed to be a hurtful term, but when someone uses it in a hurtful way it gets to me...I have to problem with LGBT at all, and I know I'm not supposed to let this stuff get to me, but it just does....I'm sorta in need of consolation right now...sorry if I sound needy or anything....

punch them in the face then pin them down and spit on their eyeball and then be like "oh sorry dude now you have *** body-fluid in your system and it'll probs go straight to your brain because its so close the eye-ball sorry man you caught the gay too i feel u man"

But n'aw though seriously now, why even care what some spitefull bigot butt-face thinks. I recommend punching them because lets be real that is the only way people learn. As someone who was tormented for years, trust me, when someone walks over you bite their foot off. Then the'll never walk over you again. Maybe hobble or limp. I dont really know where im going with this.
 
um, yeah, violence is definitely not the way to go about it. i would try to ignore them and if it keeps happening talk to someone about it.

defending yourself verbally is fine but not physically. that brings you down to their level, if not lower. don't do that to yourself :)
 
I'm sorry but I need to vent a bit...I just called gay again today and I know it's not supposed to be a hurtful term, but when someone uses it in a hurtful way it gets to me...I have to problem with LGBT at all, and I know I'm not supposed to let this stuff get to me, but it just does....I'm sorta in need of consolation right now...sorry if I sound needy or anything....

It seems as though people who don't act in line with general gender stereotypes are subjected to homophobic bullying. As silly as it is, people expect boys to be sporty and strong controllers while girls, emotional and dainty. Obviously, these standards are ridiculous and should in no way restrain you from what you enjoy and who you are.

It is common, unfortunately that the word "gay" is an insult, as to make being gay or any of the GLBTA spheres highly undesirable and something to be ashamed of, which it isn't.

It is completely normal and human for any form of bullying to "get to you." What is important is that you appropriately deal with this bullying. I suggest talking to a guidance counselor or parent, basically someone you can trust since it is the best idea to tackle this disturbance now, before it becomes something that can really really harm you emotionally or physically.

Best of luck, and also if you need anymore help, don't hesitate.
 
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um, yeah, violence is definitely not the way to go about it. i would try to ignore them and if it keeps happening talk to someone about it.

defending yourself verbally is fine but not physically. that brings you down to their level, if not lower. don't do that to yourself :)

As someone who was personally victimized for years that is just something parents and teachers tell kids to make them feel better or make it blow up bigger. If your under 16 you will get away with it in the long term. As someone who was choked until I passed out, who had coke cans thrown at my head and had to get stitches, and had nasty stuff like that, bullies never "get the hint". If they can get away with it because "boys will be boys", or "they're just kids", you can get away with socking them in the jaw.

And as someone who went to teachers, and my mum was basically told "There's nothing we can do because it's too many kids, so we're gonna blame your child because he sticks out too much.", some teachers are awful. And should never be told.

Like yeah, flippant remarks and annoying douchebags you can just ignore, maybe tell a teacher. But if its really bad, if you're being witch-hunted and fear going to school; little will help other than slapping back.
 
As someone who was personally victimized for years that is just something parents and teachers tell kids to make them feel better or make it blow up bigger. If your under 16 you will get away with it in the long term. As someone who was choked until I passed out, who had coke cans thrown at my head and had to get stitches, and had nasty stuff like that, bullies never "get the hint". If they can get away with it because "boys will be boys", or "they're just kids", you can get away with socking them in the jaw.

And as someone who went to teachers, and my mum was basically told "There's nothing we can do because it's too many kids, so we're gonna blame your child because he sticks out too much.", some teachers are awful. And should never be told.

Like yeah, flippant remarks and annoying douchebags you can just ignore, maybe tell a teacher. But if its really bad, if you're being witch-hunted and fear going to school; little will help other than slapping back.
Nothing really stuns a bully more than when you fight back. That's how I made my way through grade-school. After about second grade, I toughened up and stopped being the punching bag. Yea, sometimes they would escalate into fights, but it's better to get the other guy a few times and be able to defend yourself than be the guy that gets beat up and then have the teachers say "we didn't see it, so it didn't happen".
 
A lot of the times in situations like that you're just kind of screwed until you get out of high school. The best thing would be to tell some adults (teachers, parents, principals, counselors) but that can sometimes backfire and turn out like when I almost got suspended for hugging my boyfriend. I really wouldn't recommend punching them, they could bring friends next time, and if you get caught by the school you'll be punished pretty badly.
 
Fighting back is a sure way to just cause more trouble for you. Both in that the bully will feel more compelled and challenged to break you, and that you'll get in trouble from the school.

Bullies want a feeling of importance, if you don't give that to them then they will lose interest. Being diplomatic is far more important than anything else.
 
I've never actually seen the whole "fight the bullies so they stop being rude" actually work.

First off, throwing the first punch doesn't automatically mean you won the fight. I've seen the bully turn around and punch harder and kick the crap out of someone who punched them, so by losing the fight, the kid just got opened up to more bullying. Also, even if you win the fight, you still threw the first punch. Not only are you going to get into more trouble, but the bully is now pissed and gets a week of suspension to ruminate in their anger. Not only that, but the popular kids are probably going to back him up, so you're just going to have this big hoard of gorillas ready for you when you get back.

Now, I'm not going to say never, ever fight back. If you are in physical danger and the school staff is doing nothing about it, you kind of have to fight. You have to save your own skin, even if it means you get in trouble. However, fighting verbal bullying with physical violence isn't a very feasible idea. If you beat someone up just for insulting you, you aren't necessarily going to solve the problem. A lot of times, the teasing actually gets turned into people trying to hurt you. As I said before, the bully might have friends that want to avenge him. People always try to portray bullies as, for a lack of a better term, pussies, but they aren't always.

Also, you have to realize that you aren't helping the gay community by fighting. You aren't hurting anyone, but you aren't helping. Instead, you are freaking out people who are neutral on LGBT's, and making it harder for them accept, because of one bad example. It's stupid, but people are sheep. It's never a good thing to turn away allies.


If you're getting verbally bullied and no one is doing anything about it, my advice is to be smarter than the bullies. If you can learn sarcasm and wit, you can make the bullies look stupid. Even better, is if you can find out how to get them into an analytical situation where they actually have to answer for their actions. Stupid kids flounder when logic is involved, and it's not easy to get into these situations, but when you do, you can do serious damage to their self esteem. Besides, a good speaker is way more dangerous than a good fighter. A good fighter can fight alone, but a good speaker can get everyone to fight with them.
 
If you're getting verbally bullied and no one is doing anything about it, my advice is to be smarter than the bullies. If you can learn sarcasm and wit, you can make the bullies look stupid.

FUN FACT: this will sometimes earn you a broken nose depending on how scary your bully is. I'm gonna make a bullet list.

1. Big scary, physically agressive bully thats bigger than you. Ignore and report.
2. Similar size, physically aggressive. Ignore and report, then maybe go banzai and smack the poop out of them. If your feeling up to it.
3. Not very brave, but emotionally and psychologically cruel bully, make them look dumb if your smart enough, if not then report, then maybe beat the snot out of them.
4. Someone being a poop, saying ignorant dumb stuff. Ignore. Maybe make them look dumb.
 
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FUN FACT: this will sometimes earn you a broken nose depending on how scary your bully is. I'm gonna make a bullet list.

1. Big scary, physically agressive bully thats bigger than you. Ignore and report.
2. Similar size, physically aggressive. Ignore and report, then maybe go banzai and smack the poop out of them. If your feeling up to it.
3. Not very brave, but emotionally and psychologically cruel bully, make them look dumb if your smart enough, if not then report, then maybe beat the snot out of them.
4. Someone being a poop, saying ignorant dumb stuff. Ignore. Maybe make them look dumb.
Contradict this?:

punch them in the face then pin them down and spit on their eyeball and then be like "oh sorry dude now you have *** body-fluid in your system and it'll probs go straight to your brain because its so close the eye-ball sorry man you caught the gay too i feel u man"

But n'aw though seriously now, why even care what some spitefull bigot butt-face thinks. I recommend punching them because lets be real that is the only way people learn. As someone who was tormented for years, trust me, when someone walks over you bite their foot off. Then the'll never walk over you again. Maybe hobble or limp. I dont really know where im going with this.

You aren't being very consistent.
 
You aren't being very consistent.

what you never seen a hypocrite before? but yeah pretty much. im like the worst advice giver ever with a bad case of verbal diahrrea double-take everything i say then take it again with a grain of salt.
 
I'm sorry but I need to vent a bit...I just called gay again today and I know it's not supposed to be a hurtful term, but when someone uses it in a hurtful way it gets to me...I have to problem with LGBT at all, and I know I'm not supposed to let this stuff get to me, but it just does....I'm sorta in need of consolation right now...sorry if I sound needy or anything....

I hope you are feeling better!

I am not entitled to say any of this but it's just my opinion. You absolutely have every right to be hurt by it and there's nothing wrong with letting it get to you. I'm not going to tell you to take it to a teacher or ignore them because I know how hard that is; but I think that someone so insignificant in your life is not worth listening to.

=)
 
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