LGBTQA - Discussion and support.

[Bambi]

I'm sorry but I need to vent a bit...I just called gay again today and I know it's not supposed to be a hurtful term, but when someone uses it in a hurtful way it gets to me...I have to problem with LGBT at all, and I know I'm not supposed to let this stuff get to me, but it just does....I'm sorta in need of consolation right now...sorry if I sound needy or anything....

I find words lose their power if they don't get a reaction. Or if they create the OPPOSITE effect of what the bully is going for. I was bullied a lot in school and girls like to yell at me when I walked through the halls "S***!" So I would hold my head up high and yell back "SURE AM!" I dunno, got me through highschool just not giving two ***** what people said.

 

[Ashtot]

At my school, anybody that fights on school property gets a $300 fine. So basically, if a guy wants to beat you up, and you don't want to get in trouble, you have to let him beat the crap out of you. Our schools gone through a few rough times due to our principal telling a bullying victim to "suck it up" which got into the news here. There were students protesting outside for a few days. He retired at the end of last year.

 

[Bacon Boy]

I'm all for being diplomatic about it and turning the other cheek. When prople are verbally abusing you, then yeah, no reason to fight. However, you should never let yourself become a punching bag because you're afraid of getting into trouble or you're against fighting back. The first time I fought back, I got in trouble and sent to ISS for it back in grade school. However, if I had not fought back, the kid would have succeeded in suffocating me, so there's that. There's a time and place for everything.

 

[Jinglefruit]

Today I realised I really haven't ventured far from the New Leaf forums and found this thread for the first time. I identify somewhere around pansexual and bisexual, not too sure where I stand exactly.

On the current bullying topic, I don't believe violence should ever be the answer. But I was fortunate enough that I was only ever really verbally bullied. The 2 occasions it was more than that I managed to escape in such an attention drawing way that the bullies got caught and it was clear I was entirely a victim, so I didn't get into any trouble.

Verbal bullying I always found teachers done absolutely nothing useful to stop it, and I recieved a lot of verbal abuse due to having a rather embarassing homosexual surname. So I took to just coming back with quick witty retorts and generally silencing them until they learned there was nothing they could say I hadn't already heard and planned a response for. And for the really persistant bullies I spread rumours that they were gay (If you're out, the quickest way to do this is to make people think that you are dating them ;P) and they quickly became victims to their own bullying methods, which got them off my back and is something I would tell any future children of mine to do.

Whether something like that would work for you guys I don't know. But after I started doing stuff like that no one bullied me a second time, and I had a few years of peace.

 

[oath2order]

And for the really persistant bullies I spread rumours that they were gay (If you're out, the quickest way to do this is to make people think that you are dating them ;P) and they quickly became victims to their own bullying methods, which got them off my back and is something I would tell any future children of mine to do.

You're perpetuating the idea that there's something wrong with being gay by spreading rumors to allow them to be bullied.

This is worse than violence.

 

[Jinglefruit]

You're perpetuating the idea that there's something wrong with being gay by spreading rumors to allow them to be bullied.

This is worse than violence.

:I That is rather a dramatic response. In theory, and hindsight, I'd probably agree with you. But in practise, that is not how it went down at all. It worked more as a taste of their own medicine, a few weeks later and the rumours over them were gone and most people who were bullied by them were left alone.

In a more closed-minded place I imagine it could propagate more, where I live everything is pretty lax.

 

[gorgonara]

You're perpetuating the idea that there's something wrong with being gay by spreading rumors to allow them to be bullied.

This is worse than violence.

*snorts and chuckles so milkshake comes out of my nose*

rly tho hun

rly tho

 

[Bambi]

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[oath2order]

*snorts and chuckles so milkshake comes out of my nose*

rly tho hun

rly tho

Oh no, I'm sorry, apparently violence is okay, rather than continuing the idea that being gay is bad.

Thanks for explaining how it went down though, Jinglefruit.

 

[Jinglefruit]

Oh no, I'm sorry, apparently violence is okay, rather than continuing the idea that being gay is bad.

Thanks for explaining how it went down though, Jinglefruit.

Funnily enough I was going to elaborate more when I first posted, but decided not to make my post to long. ^^;

I hope the violence is okay bit isn't in relation to my story though, seeing as that's the opposite of what I was going for.

 

[Hazy]

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Just watched and shared this, so shocking and sad

 

[Bambi]

Just watched and shared this, so shocking and sad

I know I watched it last night before bed and it was a BAD idea. I was bawling my eyes out and then couldn't sleep after thinking about every little injustice in the world. Not a good way to get to sleep lol.

 

[Hazy]

I know I watched it last night before bed and it was a BAD idea. I was bawling my eyes out and then couldn't sleep after thinking about every little injustice in the world. Not a good way to get to sleep lol.

There must be so many stories like this already out there. I've heard a few similar ones, but this was the most heartbreaking.
Gosh, I welled up too... I was thinking about it in context of where I live, when 2 or 3 weeks ago a bill which would have allowed for equal marriage rights was rejected. After seeing that video, I'm even more upset and angry

(A really OT comment here, but I LOVE Bambi I nicknamed my friend Bambi because she has brown doe eyes haha )

 

[Peachk33n]

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I seen this a while ago and it is very sad.

Im glad in Canada LGBTQ have the same rights as anyone else. I dont see why it just cant happen in the states. I mean its been fine over here for a long time. the world isnt going to explode

anyways, glad I could share my opinion.

 

[oath2order]

Funnily enough I was going to elaborate more when I first posted, but decided not to make my post to long. ^^;

I hope the violence is okay bit isn't in relation to my story though, seeing as that's the opposite of what I was going for.

Nah, that was a sarcastic response to gorgonara.

Also, ya'll, it's almost June. The Supreme Courts' two cases will have a decision then.

 

[Smoke]

I've gotta say, the fact that people are so unwilling to accept that people are allowed to be who they want is truly outrageous. This is exactly why I plan on majoring in Psychology. I've got questions about why people's minds function the way they do and I want answers. No matter how long it takes. In any case, I fully support equality for all. It's not harming anyone, and just because you think it's not okay doesn't make it not okay. Be who you are, do what you will. Getting mad at someone for being gay, bi, lesbian, or trans because it's against what you believe in is like getting mad at someone for eating a donut because you're on a diet. To those of you here who are any of the four, keep doing what you do.

And that is all I really have to say here.

 

[Hazy]

I've gotta say, the fact that people are so unwilling to accept that people are allowed to be who they want is truly outrageous. This is exactly why I plan on majoring in Psychology. I've got questions about why people's minds function the way they do and I want answers. No matter how long it takes. In any case, I fully support equality for all. It's not harming anyone, and just because you think it's not okay doesn't make it not okay. Be who you are, do what you will. Getting mad at someone for being gay, bi, lesbian, or trans because it's against what you believe in is like getting mad at someone for eating a donut because you're on a diet. To those of you here who are any of the four, keep doing what you do.

And that is all I really have to say here.

Agreed. I like the donut analogy I study the social sciences and sociology and there are many theories about this, but certainly no easy answers as to why people and societies are prejudice.

 

[Bambi]

(A really OT comment here, but I LOVE Bambi I nicknamed my friend Bambi because she has brown doe eyes haha )

Me too! Bambi is adorable

That is the sad thing about the video. He is speaking for thousands of people who have similar experiences. Equality for everyone should, in my opinion, not even be debatable.

 

[Usagi_Pip]

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As sad as the video is, what's worse is knowing that there are tonnes more stories similar to this...(there are also a few heart-warming success stories around as well! )

I get the feeling that although there are stories such as this, the world is slowly becoming more forward-thinking and open-minded as a whole, but it needs to be happening at a bigger scale.

I identify myself as asexual at this point in time (other times I doubt myself, since asexuality has it's own kind of scale of sorts, and isn't too widely recognised yet). I've tried to gauge my parents reaction to it, which was "naah, such a thing doesn't exist, you're just not trying" sooo i've stopped seeking advice from them XD. Since my partner is male I'm not questioned much about it, and since it's not commonly brought up, it only comes up if I decide I need to talk about it. I'm unsure about my romantic/emotional attraction preferences, but since I'm in a loving committed relationship, I find there's little point pondering o exploring it since I'm happy with how things are. But I know for a fact that romantic and sexual attraction can be two different things, and in my opinion it's wrong to judge someone based on just one of those, because of that I find myself being pretty open-minded. Some discussions make me feel uncomfortable if they're heavily detailed, but all in all I believe it's just natural for everyone to have their own sexual and romantic preferences and gender identity. No single person is the same as another, and I think the variety of views and preferences everyone has should be embraced rather than shunned as it still is today. We are just human after all.

 

[Pudge]

Just thought I'd step in and say I'm part of the G in LGBTQA, and duh I support it.