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Mafia Love Letter TBT MicroMafia (5 players)- DAY 1
- Thread starter Biancasbotique
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Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
Yes, its right there in the OP and I gave more concrete instructions in your pm as well Antonio. Thanks Dad
Also, anyone choosing to use their day cards must pm me before end of day.
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Also remember , this is a mountainous set up (its only mafia vs. town- no blue roles)
any night or day actions will be determined by the cards
plus the usual lynch and nightkills.
Also, anyone choosing to use their day cards must pm me before end of day.
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Also remember , this is a mountainous set up (its only mafia vs. town- no blue roles)
any night or day actions will be determined by the cards
plus the usual lynch and nightkills.
Philemon120
Senior Member
I said that out of habit because I usually start with a smaller post and go over things then make a bigger one, but then I realized there wasn't anything yet lol
Philemon120
Senior Member
Oh that was @Dad btw, if it wasn't clear
Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
Chele!! <3
Philemon120
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I realized it, waited a while to see if anything showed up, and when nothing did, I left and didn't check it again for a few hours.
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I have to sleep soon and then go to work this evening so I won't really be around for much of the rest of the day, this has been a really sad D1 but I got this much from it: I don't think Antonio is mafia because I was just partners with him and his play there was much more invested and opportunistic than it is here, given I could see where there's opportunity to jump on Phil for the stuff I questioned him on.
My questions towards Phil were more attacks/accusations than questions so the not overdefensive answers here satisfy me and at this point in time I don't see them as the type of player to underplay their responses to me.
So I'm stuck between Unravel and Dolby tbh. Dolby did some figuring out of the cards in the beginning and made a suggestion of what to do with the guard card to whoever has it and one of the tings I notice about Dolby as town is that he puts a lot of attention on what the setup could be, and in this, it's about what cards are on the table. This is not a townread yet but this is his town meta. That being said, not a ton of AI content from him.
Which leaves unravel, who just made a one-liner and did nothing else. And scummy unravel tends to stir chaos and coast around that chaos (could still be wounded from RHOM here). The one line she has posted seems like one of those things thrown out there to make people guess about the cards? I hate having to vote somebody who has only posted one line but she is where I am at the moment.
##VOTE: unravel
My questions towards Phil were more attacks/accusations than questions so the not overdefensive answers here satisfy me and at this point in time I don't see them as the type of player to underplay their responses to me.
So I'm stuck between Unravel and Dolby tbh. Dolby did some figuring out of the cards in the beginning and made a suggestion of what to do with the guard card to whoever has it and one of the tings I notice about Dolby as town is that he puts a lot of attention on what the setup could be, and in this, it's about what cards are on the table. This is not a townread yet but this is his town meta. That being said, not a ton of AI content from him.
Which leaves unravel, who just made a one-liner and did nothing else. And scummy unravel tends to stir chaos and coast around that chaos (could still be wounded from RHOM here). The one line she has posted seems like one of those things thrown out there to make people guess about the cards? I hate having to vote somebody who has only posted one line but she is where I am at the moment.
##VOTE: unravel
Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
Voting Update:
unravel (1)- Dad
Not Voted Yet:
Dolby
Antonio
Philemon120
unravel
Day ends in 9 hours and 40 minutes. Please pm me any day actions at least one hour before EOD.
unravel (1)- Dad
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Dolby
Antonio
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unravel
Day ends in 9 hours and 40 minutes. Please pm me any day actions at least one hour before EOD.
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Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
Hi Vanessa!! Why are you not playing?? I emailed you!!
Philemon120
Senior Member
I can't find any reason at all to sus anyone so guess I'll just die 
Not voting ;-;
Not voting ;-;
Dolby
I drive the bus
Feel that Dad is town because right now he's slotting himself into an endgame fight with me should Unravel be lynched and flip town. As scum he could certainly abandon his position, but he would certainly lose face doing so (especially with me because I've read his scumchats and he knows that I like strength with only slight openness), but after last game I feel that he would intentionally leave more options open (since he thought he was going into a winnable 2v1, but that was not winnable for him in the slightest unless he abandoned prior positions).
Also gonna say that Antonio definetely feels less invested than last time. Though he does feel less spammy than prior games I think that represents more of a shift in how he plays overall (for example, 20 (of his) posts into Hunger Games he pretty much responded to a request for reads with two nulls), though I do want to see definitive reads from him first because I did notice something about his play that I'm gonna save for a bit later that he hasn't displayed yet
Phil and Unravel are both nulls. Also, gonna say that I get what Dad's saying about Unravel having the least valuable contributions, but at the start of games as town, she honestly acts like this to
Also: Cardplay
Do not use the Guard guess that a player has a Countess or Handmaid under any circumstances. Those cards being in play have only benefits for town being in play. Don't guess that somebody has a princess unless it's 4 players alive D2, in which case, you're assumed to be town I guess and someone had a Handmaid and claimed. Thus, in your eyes there would be two unconfirmed, and in the Handmaid's eyes three, and would increase town win rate from 33% to 66%.
I guess I'm fine if someone guesses with Guard that someone has most other things because I could see scum using them to their advantage.
I would appriciate it if people with Handmaid and Countess cards keep them in their hand for as long as possible. Both have the potential to create confirmed town (maf obviously aren't gonna target themselves for night kill)
Prince use your card solely on scummy people
I would really recommend that Baron's not use their card, or simply discard it for a new one. If we lynch today and you use it, you have to hit scum or we lose, and even if you hit scum there's a 50% chance that we still lose because you used it
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10/10 contribution
Anyone you feel is distinctly more or less sus than others?
Also gonna say that Antonio definetely feels less invested than last time. Though he does feel less spammy than prior games I think that represents more of a shift in how he plays overall (for example, 20 (of his) posts into Hunger Games he pretty much responded to a request for reads with two nulls), though I do want to see definitive reads from him first because I did notice something about his play that I'm gonna save for a bit later that he hasn't displayed yet
Phil and Unravel are both nulls. Also, gonna say that I get what Dad's saying about Unravel having the least valuable contributions, but at the start of games as town, she honestly acts like this to
Also: Cardplay
Do not use the Guard guess that a player has a Countess or Handmaid under any circumstances. Those cards being in play have only benefits for town being in play. Don't guess that somebody has a princess unless it's 4 players alive D2, in which case, you're assumed to be town I guess and someone had a Handmaid and claimed. Thus, in your eyes there would be two unconfirmed, and in the Handmaid's eyes three, and would increase town win rate from 33% to 66%.
I guess I'm fine if someone guesses with Guard that someone has most other things because I could see scum using them to their advantage.
I would appriciate it if people with Handmaid and Countess cards keep them in their hand for as long as possible. Both have the potential to create confirmed town (maf obviously aren't gonna target themselves for night kill)
Prince use your card solely on scummy people
I would really recommend that Baron's not use their card, or simply discard it for a new one. If we lynch today and you use it, you have to hit scum or we lose, and even if you hit scum there's a 50% chance that we still lose because you used it
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I can't find any reason at all to sus anyone so guess I'll just die
10/10 contribution
Anyone you feel is distinctly more or less sus than others?
Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
Card Update:
One card has been played so far. There are fifteen cards left.
Just keep in mind that card play results will be posted after lynching and/or nightkills to the recipients. In short, "mafia" play takes predecence over card play.
For example, and let me use Vanessa lol
Vanessa (either maf or town) has a killing card and she targets Gavin for some reason. However, Gavin got nightkilled by mafia. Since Gavin already got NKed, Vanessa will get to keep her old card and use it another time.
I hope this clears the order of play.
One card has been played so far. There are fifteen cards left.
Just keep in mind that card play results will be posted after lynching and/or nightkills to the recipients. In short, "mafia" play takes predecence over card play.
For example, and let me use Vanessa lol
Vanessa (either maf or town) has a killing card and she targets Gavin for some reason. However, Gavin got nightkilled by mafia. Since Gavin already got NKed, Vanessa will get to keep her old card and use it another time.
I hope this clears the order of play.
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Dolby
I drive the bus
Well we know that either a priest or guard has been played so far
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Taking a look at Waffles profile she hasn't been online since effectively the day this game started. Could easily have been modkilled if she hadn't posted. Honestly I don't expect her to be here, and in my eyes she remains a valid contender for the lynch
I kinda suspect Phil though. Acknowledging that there is far less to make reads off of in comparison to when he replaced into Hunger Games mafia, he was been far less useful. He entered, replacing into a 400 post game and was able to provide solid reads and strategize on when to post them so that mafia couldn't use their knowledge of their actions. I would expect him as town to have 1. Commented on my suggestions for card play or come up with stuff on his own relating to that, as he did when I argued that vig shouldn't shoot in Hunger Games mafia (he was pretty much the only one to agree with me (also, vig shouldn't have shot ftr. I was maf but my viewpoint was legit)). I also would expect him to at least provide a read on Dad and the fact that he is focusing solely on susses gives me reason to think that he isn't looking at things from the same angle. Again, recognizing that Hunger Games was a different situation, He provided full reads on Hunger Games upon replacement, which he should at least have acknowledged Dad in some way just now. In addition his wording in #54, where he focuses solely on susses shows how he's thinking. He isn't even attempting to provide townreads, which shows that he's solely focused on lynch prospects. It reminds me of how I used to play as scum, and if you want a good example of such thinking just look at Antonio last game. First mention of reads were susses on Calamity and Kate, and in my opinion there's a dearth of townreads from him in that game
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Oh good he's here. Just gonna point out how similar this quote is in effect to Phile's last scum game in that he's passing the buck on providing reads. Gonna give him an opportunity to defend himself before voting
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Taking a look at Waffles profile she hasn't been online since effectively the day this game started. Could easily have been modkilled if she hadn't posted. Honestly I don't expect her to be here, and in my eyes she remains a valid contender for the lynch
I kinda suspect Phil though. Acknowledging that there is far less to make reads off of in comparison to when he replaced into Hunger Games mafia, he was been far less useful. He entered, replacing into a 400 post game and was able to provide solid reads and strategize on when to post them so that mafia couldn't use their knowledge of their actions. I would expect him as town to have 1. Commented on my suggestions for card play or come up with stuff on his own relating to that, as he did when I argued that vig shouldn't shoot in Hunger Games mafia (he was pretty much the only one to agree with me (also, vig shouldn't have shot ftr. I was maf but my viewpoint was legit)). I also would expect him to at least provide a read on Dad and the fact that he is focusing solely on susses gives me reason to think that he isn't looking at things from the same angle. Again, recognizing that Hunger Games was a different situation, He provided full reads on Hunger Games upon replacement, which he should at least have acknowledged Dad in some way just now. In addition his wording in #54, where he focuses solely on susses shows how he's thinking. He isn't even attempting to provide townreads, which shows that he's solely focused on lynch prospects. It reminds me of how I used to play as scum, and if you want a good example of such thinking just look at Antonio last game. First mention of reads were susses on Calamity and Kate, and in my opinion there's a dearth of townreads from him in that game
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I can't find any reason at all to sus anyone so guess I'll just die
Oh good he's here. Just gonna point out how similar this quote is in effect to Phile's last scum game in that he's passing the buck on providing reads. Gonna give him an opportunity to defend himself before voting
Philemon120
Senior Member
@Dolby: Nobody's done anything telling, so there's no reason to sus anyone.
@Card use: I don't think there's much to say here. I hope it was worth it @whoever used it.
All your reads right now seem to be based almost entirely on meta, Dolby. Have any other reasoning behind them?
@Card use: I don't think there's much to say here. I hope it was worth it @whoever used it.
All your reads right now seem to be based almost entirely on meta, Dolby. Have any other reasoning behind them?
Dolby
I drive the bus
I'd argue in the case of Dad that his read is based upon the fact that he's actually providing content is town indicative and not meta. Also would argue that him putting himself into a 1v1 fight if he's scum is town indicative
Willingly acknowledged that Antonio is 100% meta, but it's still valid
Yeah, you're gonna end up deflecting onto Unravel's general uselessness so far aren't you
