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@Toad someone being confirmed and you thinking/feeling they are town is two different things.

Look at Inkling's meta! so emotional, new player. Why on earth would be have lashed out so quickly if they were on the same scum team? and I highly doubt he was capable of trying to make us not suspect Qwerty. I absolutely believe this and it makes more sense than trying to work out the semantics of their posts, because its based on things that actually happened rather than "how I feel about somebody's posts" and things like that speak way more volumes than your opinions about the intentions behind someone's posts
 
Well I'm pretty sure Alexi is town, and were wasting our lynch on someone that actually contributes versus someone that's been inactive for most of this time and contributed basically nothing (Mothers, Ayaya, others as well)

Didn't realize about Qwerty being modkilled tho otherwise I would have chosen someone else.

@M3ow the Mother lynch i could understand, but Ayaya just entered the game by replacing Kevinn and she's trying to catch up through all the s*** posting, and the 150+ pages so far, so i would like to give her a chance cause i know they will contribute once they can, on the other hand where the heck have you been, you usually aren't this mia and you usually come in with strong post and good guidance for us, but seems like you haven't been keeping up with the game and now you are recommending some really random lynch candidates, care to explain ?
 
I have Mother of all Llamas as town as well for the same reasons as Qwerty

Inkling tried to bring attention to them too... I would not lynch either of them unless it got down to the nitty gritty
 
Well I'm pretty sure Alexi is town, and were wasting our lynch on someone that actually contributes versus someone that's been inactive for most of this time and contributed basically nothing (Mothers, Ayaya, others as well)

Didn't realize about Qwerty being modkilled tho otherwise I would have chosen someone else.
alexi is scum though. It's not wasting a lynch and imo activity shouldn't decide a lynch.
 
Look at Inkling's meta! so emotional, new player. Why on earth would be have lashed out so quickly if they were on the same scum team? and I highly doubt he was capable of trying to make us not suspect Qwerty. I absolutely believe this and it makes more sense than trying to work out the semantics of their posts, because its based on things that actually happened rather than "how I feel about somebody's posts" and things like that speak way more volumes than your opinions about the intentions behind someone's posts

@Toad calm down i didn't say you were wrong i just said there is a big difference between someone being confirmed and being strongly town read.
 
@Toad calm down i didn't say you were wrong i just said there is a big difference between someone being confirmed and being strongly town read.

well yeah, nothing is confirmed in this game unless it is dead and told to me, but I am just saying... they are some of my strongest town reads, hence why I don't care about their annoying inactivity. We were lucky they were active at the time they were

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alexi is scum though. It's not wasting a lynch and imo activity shouldn't decide a lynch.

you still seem so positive and give no reasoning (I personally would love to hear it, even a brief synopsis), you call me for standing up for Qwerty, but at least I'm then willing to explain why I highly believe they are town.... I guess were not good enough to hear your opinions or know why you think that, ok. You will say some bs excuse about not having time or something, but you are literally always here, so I don't understand why you just wouldn't give details
 
well yeah, nothing is confirmed in this game unless it is dead and told to me, but I am just saying... they are some of my strongest town reads, hence why I don't care about their annoying inactivity. We were lucky they were active at the time they were

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you still seem so positive and give no reasoning (I personally would love to hear it, even a brief synopsis), you call me for standing up for Qwerty, but at least I'm then willing to explain why I highly believe they are town.... I guess were not good enough to hear your opinions or know why you think that, ok. You will say some bs excuse about not having time or something, but you are literally always here, so I don't understand why you just wouldn't give details
i wasn't calling you out, i just wanted to know what made qwerty absolutely town to you.

Anyway, Alexi isn't playing likes she usually does. It's seems like it, but in reality it's a really close imitation. I'm a student with work to do so I don't have time to go dissect and look at others meta. But since you asked I'll try to have something by tonight.
 
i wasn't calling you out, i just wanted to know what made qwerty absolutely town to you.

Anyway, Alexi isn't playing likes she usually does. It's seems like it, but in reality it's a really close imitation. I'm a student with work to do so I don't have time to go dissect and look at others meta. But since you asked I'll try to have something by tonight.

wow, I was really expecting a snarky one liner back... I know you weren't calling me out, but I don't want us even starting to think about lynching people for inactivity especially when they even have a good reason to stay. and even despite all this, I still think you are not scum at all
 
I have Mother of all Llamas as town as well for the same reasons as Qwerty

Inkling tried to bring attention to them too... I would not lynch either of them unless it got down to the nitty gritty

Qwerty will probs be modkilled now that I saw the voting thread, but you shouldn't townread people for weak reasons like that. In fact it'd be smart of inkling if she called out other people on her team, because then town would assume what you are assuming too quickly.

Xine realized Inkling was scum based on their activity and posts when they were active. so you should be careful if that's really your only reasoning for townreading Qwerty and Llamas lol

@Panda it's really not random, and I'm not basing the Ayaya lynch off Kevin entirely but also because she said she would post reads sometime soon and even Lucanosa came and posted their general thoughts and typically Lucanosa is mostly afk so if he can do it then why can't Ayaya? Anyway I've been scum with Ayaya and she tends to not post reads when she's not town. Her town meta is quite strong and she acts a lot more passive as scum from what I've noticed. So the fact that she's not posting now is a bit off. Not to mention Kevin barely posting at all makes me think he was noobscum not knowing how to seem town so he just gave up.

As for my inactivity I've been busy blah blah I really dislike how you all are deciding on a lynch so early into D1, Mondays and Wednesday's are my busiest day of the week as I don't get home until 10pm PST. so ye I'm typing this in class. I don't have time to make a real case. My activity correlates with how busy I am, not my alignment, BoI & GoT for example. I believe in quality over quantity :^)

I wish you guys would allow me to make a case for why we shouldn't lynch a contributing player like Alexi today. It's not even that my opinion of Alexi is really strong, I'm not 100% convinced she's town but I just don't think she's scum based on her reaction to my case and her being one of Daniels top suspicions- after inklings lynch I just don't think he'd make a case on his partner like that. I'd rather lynch someone that hasn't been contributing and has been coasting through the game.
 
@m3ow I just started replacing yesterday and I was too occupied then to really analyze the thread. As Panda said, I'm gonna need more time to go through all these ****posts because it's kind of hard finding posts that really matters between all the replies and bantering :/
 
Lol at the Daniel part. Only one of their teammates died at that point he could have bussed not knowing he'd die at night. As scum I'd be bussing all day long. But it's this asumming that's killing town. asumptions from past games, assuming what mafia would do. So when you say something like you don't believe alexi is scum after what Daniel said, than its assuming scum and honestly mafia could do anything, like going bat **** crazy. But yeah this train of thought is detrimental to town.
 
Qwerty will probs be modkilled now that I saw the voting thread, but you shouldn't townread people for weak reasons like that. In fact it'd be smart of inkling if she called out other people on her team, because then town would assume what you are assuming too quickly.

Xine realized Inkling was scum based on their activity and posts when they were active. so you should be careful if that's really your only reasoning for townreading Qwerty and Llamas lol

@Panda it's really not random, and I'm not basing the Ayaya lynch off Kevin entirely but also because she said she would post reads sometime soon and even Lucanosa came and posted their general thoughts and typically Lucanosa is mostly afk so if he can do it then why can't Ayaya? Anyway I've been scum with Ayaya and she tends to not post reads when she's not town. Her town meta is quite strong and she acts a lot more passive as scum from what I've noticed. So the fact that she's not posting now is a bit off. Not to mention Kevin barely posting at all makes me think he was noobscum not knowing how to seem town so he just gave up.

As for my inactivity I've been busy blah blah I really dislike how you all are deciding on a lynch so early into D1, Mondays and Wednesday's are my busiest day of the week as I don't get home until 10pm PST. so ye I'm typing this in class. I don't have time to make a real case. My activity correlates with how busy I am, not my alignment, BoI & GoT for example. I believe in quality over quantity :^)

I wish you guys would allow me to make a case for why we shouldn't lynch a contributing player like Alexi today. It's not even that my opinion of Alexi is really strong, I'm not 100% convinced she's town but I just don't think she's scum based on her reaction to my case and her being one of Daniels top suspicions- after inklings lynch I just don't think he'd make a case on his partner like that. I'd rather lynch someone that hasn't been contributing and has been coasting through the game.

I don't think Inkling would've called out those people if he was on the same team and Inkling called out a ton of people which makes me seem during that time he was really grasping at straws... did you read the post I made right after D1 pointing out all of Inkling's posts and talking about the possibility of him actually bussing. As well as my argument is strengthened knowing now that Daniel was never targeted in Inkling's posts. So you want to criticize me for my "weak" reasonings that are actually every thoroughly researched based on logic and fact ok... but your case based on meta and inactivity is so solid.

i also think its funny you are essentially calling out Ayaya for not posting reads and maybe just being busy, when then you yourself go on to say not to judge your affiliation based on how often you post.

I'm not discrediting your actual argument, but just saying don't discredit others when yours has just as many flaws

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Lol at the Daniel part. Only one of their teammates died at that point he could have bussed not knowing he'd die at night. As scum I'd be bussing all day long. But it's this asumming that's killing town. asumptions from past games, assuming what mafia would do. So when you say something like you don't believe alexi is scum after what Daniel said, than its assuming scum and honestly mafia could do anything, like going bat **** crazy. But yeah this train of thought is detrimental to town.

Daniel did Bus Inkling somewhat when he started going off the deep end, although did not vote him which was obvi weird
 
i wasn't calling you out, i just wanted to know what made qwerty absolutely town to you.

Anyway, Alexi isn't playing likes she usually does. It's seems like it, but in reality it's a really close imitation. I'm a student with work to do so I don't have time to go dissect and look at others meta. But since you asked I'll try to have something by tonight.

Looking forward to this.

Seems like I have a few votes but I'm seeing 0 reasoning/cases, which really baffles me.
 
A few questions as I've now caught back up. First of all, what does a Jack Of Al Trades do exactly? Like what role do they play in the game?
Second, I'm going to assume what you guys are calling "Cop" is the same thing as Jailor in TOS? Basically what a jailor does is question someone each night and they can choose to execute them if they deem it necessary. If not could someone explain cop to me?
Lastly, someone may have asked this but I forgot the answer if so, what is OMGUS?
 
A few questions as I've now caught back up. First of all, what does a Jack Of Al Trades do exactly? Like what role do they play in the game?
Second, I'm going to assume what you guys are calling "Cop" is the same thing as Jailor in TOS? Basically what a jailor does is question someone each night and they can choose to execute them if they deem it necessary. If not could someone explain cop to me?
Lastly, someone may have asked this but I forgot the answer if so, what is OMGUS?

Google is your friend. There's a mafia wiki that answers all your questions about terms and how a mafia game works http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Main_Page
 
A few questions as I've now caught back up. First of all, what does a Jack Of Al Trades do exactly? Like what role do they play in the game?
Second, I'm going to assume what you guys are calling "Cop" is the same thing as Jailor in TOS? Basically what a jailor does is question someone each night and they can choose to execute them if they deem it necessary. If not could someone explain cop to me?
Lastly, someone may have asked this but I forgot the answer if so, what is OMGUS?

Jack of All Trades- Has a range of abilities, usually inspection, doc save, shoot and/or roleblock
Cop AKA Detective, receive a report of someones allignment
OMGUS is Oh My God You Suck, when you call someone out for scum because they did first.
 
As you've probably noticed, I've been repeatedly saying that there can't be 2 Doctors in this game, and it was mostly because of how weird Aron is acting when he claimed. In particular in this post:

or you could protect me since there's a 100% chance maf's gonna kill me

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on the bright side, I doubt the Mafia's gonna kill anybody this round. We all know they'll kill me and whoever the doctor is will protect me (or should because who else is the Maf gonna gun down?)

This post was made before Kat claimed as Doc, and it implied that he knows there's probably another doc. Why would he think there'd be another doc if he IS the doc? I was waiting for him to step up and play seriously, but he barely contributed seriously and posted this:

Honestly guys, I have no idea what's going on. The reason I haven't posted reads is because I've fallen way behind on reading the posts and at this point there's practically no way I'm going to be able to make any in-depth analysis.

Here's all I ask: Leave me alive for 2 more days. by day 4 if I'm not dead than consider me confirmed scum and lynch my @ss. All I ask is that you let me try to play doc right until then.

I know how hard it is to catch up, but I'm a replacement who wasn't in the game before D2, and you're a player who participated from the start. Catching up should be easier for you, yet you're not even trying?

As a doctor, you should be helping town scunhunting, because ultimately, it'll be your job to decide who is saved and who aren't.

And that paragraph is really weird. Ypu specifically want us to keep you alive until day 4? And your wording, "let you try to play doc"?

I hate people who aren't scum who fakeclaim and I hate town who don't even try.
 
Oh my f WE ARE NOT LYNCHING INACTIVES FOR THE SAKE OF BEING INACTIVE.

I'm reading up on phone so its kinda spotty but jesus. Also has NO ONE looked at my case on Heyden. Uuuggh.

Heyden, why would you out that I was JOAT? Like what good does it at this point when we're already not lynching Aron today?
 
I don't think Inkling would've called out those people if he was on the same team and Inkling called out a ton of people which makes me seem during that time he was really grasping at straws... did you read the post I made right after D1 pointing out all of Inkling's posts and talking about the possibility of him actually bussing. As well as my argument is strengthened knowing now that Daniel was never targeted in Inkling's posts. So you want to criticize me for my "weak" reasonings that are actually every thoroughly researched based on logic and fact ok... but your case based on meta and inactivity is so solid.

i also think its funny you are essentially calling out Ayaya for not posting reads and maybe just being busy, when then you yourself go on to say not to judge your affiliation based on how often you post.

I'm not discrediting your actual argument, but just saying don't discredit others when yours has just as many flaws

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Daniel did Bus Inkling somewhat when he started going off the deep end, although did not vote him which was obvi weird


ayy I love your townier-than-thou vibe you've got going on here but you are being just as hypocritical. inkling called out several people. llamas, qwerty, and I from what I recall. so do you townread me for the same reasons?

it's not impossible that there's scum in one of them. in fact I think it's likely. inkling probably wanted to confuse town the way that you're being confused.

Daniel is a stronger player. he would be more careful what his reads are. he would likely include at least one read that was right. both inkling and Daniel mentioned llamas and I as scum. which makes me think they did it to confuse everyone, because I'm town. but there's nothing that llamas has said or done that makes me townread her.

meta + inactivity + a player making weak reads are the basis for how scum was lynched d1, in case you weren't aware.

Im not contradicting myself when I suspect Ayaya for her lack of reads, I'm willing to give her time but it's not entirely Ayaya that makes me want to lynch her, it's Kevin as well.

my meta speaks for itself. I'm about quality posts not quantity. In games as town I have had around 20-35 posts all game and I've pushed town to lynch scum in nearly every game I've played. in BoI I was extremely active and I was 3rd party. so as for "m3ow you're normally so active etc etc" I don't even want to even hear it, I'm not ALWAYS active. I'm active when I have the time to be. I've seen Ayaya as town and she's usually one of the most active, I've been scum with her and she wasn't nearly as active. I don't think an active player is a good lynch here. because then the thread will fall silent and it'll be easier for scum to lead town. two scum are dead, the most optimal lynch here is a player that would be worth losing even if they are town. and Alexi doesn't fall into that description.

you can vote for Alexi. I started that push so I can see why, except then I reevaluated her. but sorry I'm not sheeping you, because I disagree. and if Alexi flips town you should reevaluate all your reads and try not to be so blindly confident. I mean it's great to be confident but not when you're ignoring other factors.

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Oh my f WE ARE NOT LYNCHING INACTIVES FOR THE SAKE OF BEING INACTIVE.

I'm reading up on phone so its kinda spotty but jesus. Also has NO ONE looked at my case on Heyden. Uuuggh.

Heyden, why would you out that I was JOAT? Like what good does it at this point when we're already not lynching Aron today?

And why not? You really think losing a contributing player that will be easier to read in the longrun would be better? because I genuinely don't and if you have reasoning to explain this I'd like to hear why.
 
Oh my f WE ARE NOT LYNCHING INACTIVES FOR THE SAKE OF BEING INACTIVE.

I'm reading up on phone so its kinda spotty but jesus. Also has NO ONE looked at my case on Heyden. Uuuggh.

Heyden, why would you out that I was JOAT? Like what good does it at this point when we're already not lynching Aron today?

@Sarasakat i did look into Heyden did you not read my post? It took me forever to read back there all his bs so i hope you did. and don't even get me started on the 'claim game' that got started today. :mad:
 
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