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[Arstotzkan]

Definitely. Our goal here is to get people who are scum. If we lynch someone inactive, everyone sheeps and there's no reads to be gained from it. In lynching a more suspicious player, you can tell who is scum and who is town by their differing opinions. Inactive lynching is just as bad as random lynching.

Also, for the record, this echos back to an old game of mine where the town leaders wanted to focus in on inactives. They were scum. So needless to say, you advocating this has me concerned.

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@Sarasakat i did look into Heyden did you not read my post? It took me forever to read back there all his bs so i hope you did. and don't even get me started on the 'claim game' that got started today.

I've jumped around quite a bit in my readback - sorry about that. It's just frustrating when someone is acting so scummy and people townread them.

I liked the panda-destroying-the-office gif though

 

[glow]

Definitely. Our goal here is to get people who are scum. If we lynch someone inactive, everyone sheeps and there's no reads to be gained from it. In lynching a more suspicious player, you can tell who is scum and who is town by their differing opinions. Inactive lynching is just as bad as random lynching.

Also, for the record, this echos back to an old game of mine where the town leaders wanted to focus in on inactives. They were scum. So needless to say, you advocating this has me concerned.

Okay so how long did you want to let them coast through the game before you'll hear me out?

And by this logic do you think that Alexi and I are both scum? because that makes no sense, considering I tried to lead a lynch on her D1 then backed down. or what's your stance on Alexi? Daniel made a post saying that he believes there's scum in me or Alexi. Honestly that one post made me think that we're both town.

@everyone I'm frustrated right now and it's not even about this game so soz if my salt comes thru

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I wouldn't be advocating lynching an inactive if two scum weren't dead on D2, by the way.

and Alexi you aren't even helping yourself here. Why aren't you recommending others for lynch??

 

[Chrystina]

Okay so how long did you want to let them coast through the game before you'll hear me out?

And by this logic do you think that Alexi and I are both scum? because that makes no sense, considering I tried to lead a lynch on her D1 then backed down. or what's your stance on Alexi? Daniel made a post saying that he believes there's scum in me or Alexi. Honestly that one post made me think that we're both town.

@everyone I'm frustrated right now and it's not even about this game so soz if my salt comes thru

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I wouldn't be advocating lynching an inactive if two scum weren't dead on D2, by the way.

and Alexi you aren't even helping yourself here. Why aren't you recommending others for lynch??

I did earlier today.
here and here. Not gonna quote them since one was pretty big, but basically I had heyden at slight sus and it jumped to high sus after ISOing his posts.

 

[Ayaya]

@m3ow so you'd rather lynch me, a player who's experienced and whose meta you're familiar with, who was inactive and thus wouldn't have enough posts to work with after their lynch, rather than a "contributing player", who are mostly new and hasn't helped much beside flooding the thread, even though their lynch would actually help determine people's alignment?

Knowing my meta, wouldn't you want to keep me around and determine if I'm town or not from my reads? This would make sense if this was posted on D3 and I haven't posted reads, but you're kinda reaching at this point.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Okay so how long did you want to let them coast through the game before you'll hear me out?

And by this logic do you think that Alexi and I are both scum? because that makes no sense, considering I tried to lead a lynch on her D1 then backed down. or what's your stance on Alexi? Daniel made a post saying that he believes there's scum in me or Alexi. Honestly that one post made me think that we're both town.

@everyone I'm frustrated right now and it's not even about this game so soz if my salt comes thru

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I wouldn't be advocating lynching an inactive if two scum weren't dead on D2, by the way.

and Alexi you aren't even helping yourself here. Why aren't you recommending others for lynch??

Someone completely inactive would get modkilled. Otherwise, you can still read people based on their posts. If someone is townie, but inactive, they shouldn't be getting lynched. Inactivity is a supplumental reason, at most.

Lol and you jump from me being concerned about a post to thinking you are scum? But to answer you question, probably not. I don't think you'd be making a case on your scumbuddy D1 with so few leads like that. I still don't like Alexi's wishy-washiness and it's felt like she points fingers more than she ever townreads people, yet the only person she's offered up for lynch is Heyden. So I'd probably go with you town over her, but :/. I'd still be more in favor of a Heyden lynch.

Also, why does there being two dead mafians change the situation so that you'd be pushing on inactives?

 

[Cadbberry]

@m3ow so you'd rather lynch me, a player who's experienced and whose meta you're familiar with, who was inactive and thus wouldn't have enough posts to work with after their lynch, rather than a "contributing player", who are mostly new and hasn't helped much beside flooding the thread, even though their lynch would actually help determine people's alignment?

Knowing my meta, wouldn't you want to keep me around and determine if I'm town or not from my reads? This would make sense if this was posted on D3 and I haven't posted reads, but you're kinda reaching at this point.

I would say you are safe from a lynch today since you are catching up and got put in today but players like mother of all llamas and Qwerty are not contributing very much to the conversation nor are they responding to accusations against them, they are real innactives.

 

[toadsworthy]

@meow I am not even voting for Alexi right now, so quit making me sound like I am... my vote is on Tardis and I plan on keeping it there and I explained why a while ago. Are you reading the thread at all? it doesn't seem that way

All I am saying is that Inkling played transparently each time and those two especially were picked first in Inkling's attacks, so my assumptions for Qwerty and MoAL as Town is pretty warranted. I do often think that if scum is outted and previously denounced a player saying they are scum then that leads me to think the person they criticized is actually a townie.... however, I'm not a complete noob, idiot, gullible person like you seem to think, I obviously know that theres gonna be some things put in there to be misleading and I addressed bussing possibilities in the Inkling post and after Daniel got killed too.

Yeah I give slight town lean to you, because inkling said he thought you and Aron were working together (i'm pretty sure or something or like that at least, I need to review everything he said)... and if you had read my reads or my inkling post you would've known that. Do you plan on working together with other people, reviewing other people's ideas and reads?
Or you just wanna brood about how stupid everyone is and make them feel dumb for thinking how they do? and are you gonna figure all this out yourself, town lead us on the fantastic idea that Ayaya is scummy because of inactivity/ meta and that we should lynch all her inactive henchmen? No

However for the time being, my train of thought has been spot on... I had Cory and Shiida down as town leans due to their interaction with Inkling, so I'm sticking with it and being more vocal because it worked and I am trying to help us out. At least try to understand my train of thought before you ultimately shoot it down

 

[PandaDarling]

i'm still waiting to hear back from Xine they said they had some really interesting reads coming like Ness possible SK, personally i think Heyden might be SK cause why else would he be so blatantly trying to gather PR's and outing Sarasakat's possible PR in the thread? i asked him about it and he said something along the lines of "if i was mafia i wouldn't post it in here i would go back to the mafia QT with the info" so then that made me think... what if he was SK trying to out all these PR's and make them so obvious in the thread so that Mafia notices them and helps him kill PR's at night ?

 

[glow]

@meow I am not even voting for Alexi right now, so quit making me sound like I am... my vote is on Tardis and I plan on keeping it there and I explained why a while ago. Are you reading the thread at all? it doesn't seem that way

All I am saying is that Inkling played transparently each time and those two especially were picked first in Inkling's attacks, so my assumptions for Qwerty and MoAL as Town is pretty warranted. I do often think that if scum is outted and previously denounced a player saying they are scum then that leads me to think the person they criticized is actually a townie.... however, I'm not a complete noob, idiot, gullible person like you seem to think, I obviously know that theres gonna be some things put in there to be misleading and I addressed bussing possibilities in the Inkling post and after Daniel got killed too.

Yeah I give slight town lean to you, because inkling said he thought you and Aron were working together (i'm pretty sure or something or like that at least, I need to review everything he said)... and if you had read my reads or my inkling post you would've known that. Do you plan on working together with other people, reviewing other people's ideas and reads?
Or you just wanna brood about how stupid everyone is and make them feel dumb for thinking how they do? and are you gonna figure all this out yourself, town lead us on the fantastic idea that Ayaya is scummy because of inactivity/ meta and that we should lynch all her inactive henchmen? No

However for the time being, my train of thought has been spot on... I had Cory and Shiida down as town leans due to their interaction with Inkling, so I'm sticking with it and being more vocal because it worked and I am trying to help us out. At least try to understand my train of thought before you ultimately shoot it down

yeah I didn't notice that. I got you mixed up with Crys who said Alexi was def maf then you said llamas was confirmed town and I just hate absolutes like that

I never personally offended you, not sure where you got that from but I'm sorry if you took it that way. I just don't agree with your reads

it's still weird how you think llamas is confirmed town but I am "slight townlean" considering you tr her just because inkling & Daniel said she was scum, when inkling & Daniel said the same thing about me

anyway I'm going to drop this considering it's midnight and I'd rather post my thoughts on someone who I actually want to lynch

 

[Chrystina]

If we're on the discussion of lynching inactives - I'd say it makes a huge difference in whether they're scum or town based on their overall activity within the forum.

Qwerty, Tardis and Tae have all been posting everywhere else within the forum - but not posting any reads, or contributing anything in this thread.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Ness understood I was PR N1.

If he were mafia or SK, I'd be dead right now.

 

[PandaDarling]

Ness understood I was PR N1.

If he were mafia or SK, I'd be dead right now.

@Sarasakat im so confused.

 

[toadsworthy]

yeah I didn't notice that. I got you mixed up with Crys who said Alexi was def maf then you said llamas was confirmed town and I just hate absolutes like that

I never personally offended you, not sure where you got that from but I'm sorry if you took it that way. I just don't agree with your reads

it's still weird how you think llamas is confirmed town but I am "slight townlean" considering you tr her just because inkling & Daniel said she was scum, when inkling & Daniel said the same thing about me

anyway I'm going to drop this considering it's midnight and I'd rather post my thoughts on someone who I actually want to lynch

the difference is because Qwerty and MoAL were the FIRST two he picked out, so I don't think he had a lot of time to think about what he was doing calling them out. it was just his gut reaction to try to put attention on them hence why I very highly doubt he would've started bussing them for team mafia that quickly. his accusations seemed genuinely scummy, not like they had an ulterior motive...

he just said one short offhand comment about you working with Aron. so because of those two different degrees is why I have them as strong town reads and you as a slight one.

 

[Arstotzkan]

@Sarasakat im so confused.

Night 1, when I told him to lay off and that I can't explain, he understood that I was PR. He confirmed this today, and he didn't push me at all after that.

 

[Heyden]

Night 1, when I told him to lay off and that I can't explain, he understood that I was PR. He confirmed this today, and he didn't push me at all after that.

So you think Ness is leaning town?
thank god

 

[PandaDarling]

Night 1, when I told him to lay off and that I can't explain, he understood that I was PR. He confirmed this today, and he didn't push me at all after that.

@Sarasakat but how does that not make him mafia/sk ? that just makes him lucky smart enough to realize you were PR and back off. ha im not saying he is mafia/sk... im just saying i don't follow your logic.

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So you think Ness is leaning town?
thank god

@Hayden what do you think about my SK read on you ?

 

[Arstotzkan]

@Sarasakat but how does that not make him mafia/sk ? that just makes him lucky smart enough to realize you were PR and back off. ha im not saying he is mafia/sk... im just saying i don't follow your logic.

Because I'm not dead. As someone who can shoot, I think he'd realize that I wasn't going to be protected, and getting rid of PRs = good news for baddies.

@Heyden Definitely. He's one of my strongest town reads, actually.

 

[Heyden]

i'm still waiting to hear back from Xine they said they had some really interesting reads coming like Ness possible SK, personally i think Heyden might be SK cause why else would he be so blatantly trying to gather PR's and outing Sarasakat's possible PR in the thread? i asked him about it and he said something along the lines of "if i was mafia i wouldn't post it in here i would go back to the mafia QT with the info" so then that made me think... what if he was SK trying to out all these PR's and make them so obvious in the thread so that Mafia notices them and helps him kill PR's at night ?[/s]

I can confirm I'm not serial killer. That's all I'll say.

 

[glow]

the difference is because Qwerty and MoAL were the FIRST two he picked out, so I don't think he had a lot of time to think about what he was doing calling them out. it was just his gut reaction to try to put attention on them hence why I very highly doubt he would've started bussing them for team mafia that quickly. his accusations seemed genuinely scummy, not like they had an ulterior motive...

he just said one short offhand comment about you working with Aron. so because of those two different degrees is why I have them as strong town reads and you as a slight one.

I forgot who but someone asked inkling who was maf and she said Cad and I

 

[Heyden]

I forgot who but someone asked inkling who was maf and she said Cad and I

It was me *wink wink*