Mafia Make Mafia Grate Again! Game Over! Town wins!

[PandaDarling]

i thought since 14 players left so 8 to hammer.

16 players left ! Are you forgetting you and yor scum mate ?

 

[N e s s]

16 players left ! Are you forgetting you and yor scum mate ?

yea this makes me want to hammer

 

[toadsworthy]

16 players left ! Are you forgetting you and yor scum mate ?

Crys is no scum.... I understand what has been happening today

 

[f11]

16 players left ! Are you forgetting you and yor scum mate ?

no the player list shows 14 left. I counted it.

 

[Arstotzkan]

16 players left ! Are you forgetting you and yor scum mate ?

This ATE isn't you play, panda. I'm calling Bs on it rn.

If you wanna help, reply to Curry's replies or make a reads list.

 

[toadsworthy]

23- 7 = 16 people

 

[N e s s]

I want to hammer panda but i at the very least want a defense from her before she does.

 

[toadsworthy]

9 for majority on 16...

 

[PandaDarling]

This ATE isn't you play, panda. I'm calling Bs on it rn.

If you wanna help, reply to Curry's replies or make a reads list.

i agree which i have replied to their case and i am making my own case on my sus reads.

@Crys there is 16 players left from my count.

 

[Arstotzkan]

no the player list shows 14 left. I counted it.

It was at 17 by my count. I think I remembered counting 16 earlier though but either way its 9.

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i agree which i have replied to their case and i am making my own case on my sus reads.

@Crys there is 16 players left from my count.

But Curry replied to your reply. I want a reply to that.

 

[PandaDarling]

@Sarasakat - i will i can't do it all at once, haha i wish i could.

 

[f11]

Panda if cop inspected you what would your response be to them, if you have time.

 

[PandaDarling]

A publication on why Mother of all the Llamas in the world is possible scum.
by yours truly Dr. Panda_monium

ok well i was going to make this nice written out paper as to why i think mainly Mother and possibly Qwerty are scum...
but today has been derailed by Clam and Crys so now I've spent half the time explaining myself to them... and in effect you guys get a short verse, sorry.

so basically, i wanted to point out the way Daniel started bussing Alexi along side Mother also it stricken me weird that he put Qwerty up in the greens but didnt remember to color her for some reason like he didn't really know what to do with her?

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Xine- Pretty certain they’re town. Or at least anti mafia. I highly doubt a mafian would make a case and lead a lynch for their teammate on Day 1. Really makes no sense for a mafian to do that and just let town go for another lynch.
Aron- I think they’re town. It really makes no sense for mafia to have freaked out and posted like he did. I think any scum team would silence Aron from getting defensive and emotional like he did. Not only that, but general reaction to everyone pressing him for claiming doc and Cory getting in a fight with him seems pretty genuine to me. Like town actually feeling bad or screwing up so badly. I don’t think scum could fake emotions like that or would do that in the first place. The whole thing with the “or I could just be messing with you” is the only thing that throws me off. I don’t think scum would say that, but a jester would. Toying with town’s minds is pretty Anti town and would probably be considered going against your WinCon. Other than that post, I think they’re actually telling the truth. Not to sure on the Ronald Reagan
Qwerty- Not really sure what to think of them. The only post that is actually important to look at is their reads. And even then, the reads are really short and are more like summaries than actual reads. Pretty quiet so I can’t say much on them.
Toadsworthy- Seems pretty protown to me. I’m a fan of the reads he makes with facts, so I’m a fan of his attempt to help town. Seems like a pretty sincere attempt to put town in the right direction. I read the reads to, and i can see where you're coming from. Keep it up with those posts.
Panda- Stepped up her game this time. Not sure what the reason would be for this change, but it’s helping town a lot more. Your posts have substance and a purpose, and it seems you put a lot of thought and analyzing to make them. She hasn’t been too aggressive and tunneling like she usually is, so I’m thinking it could possibly be scum panda trying to act more helpful. Regardless, she’s not one of my top scum reads and I’m leaning more town to her.
Tardis- Town leaning here. Their questions have a purpose and it seems that he’s genuinely trying to help town. While the whole case on the alt makes no sense(I don’t even think we can lynch someone who was modkilled), at least he’s trying to make a case to help town. When he was scum in tarot, he didn’t try helping town or make cases but instead just tried to look like he was contributing by making small comments and claiming really quickly for reason. It was just a pretty obvious attempt to try to be town in that game, and I don’t see that here. Town reading to the effort he’s putting in. Also is this a soft claim?

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I saw the case on Alexi, and since you were pretty keen on an Alexi lynch, I’m pretty sure one is scum while the other is town. So depending on which one of you flips if you died, I’ll see what to think next. Scum leaning.
Mother of Llamas- Honestly not too sure what to think of her. She does the same old “inactive but randomly pops in” thing she does like every game. The only two important posts are her reads and her reason for voting. The reads are pretty weak and are more summaries of what they’ve done so far instead of actual opinions on their play.


Your activity is pretty off too, why is Inkling’s weird? Also how is their posts being less aggressive scummy? The reason for voting is pretty vague here. Leaning towards scum for her.
Alexi- Scum leaning here. She has an odd tone to her posts at seem really forced and all she really has done is defend herself and agreeing with other people. Also just accepting her suspicions when people state them saying “Yeah I see why you said this” instead of confidently justifying herself. The post that really throws me off is this:

Pretty odd thing to say. So just because they townread you means you should town read them? That really makes no sense here, any scum also town reads people you know. Possible scum.

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i think with a weak scum team (given the random kills) Daniel thought his best bet was to start bussing the heck out of his mates and leave them high and dry to get to the end (unknowingly being shot be Vig, good job Toad.) so i think its safe to assume that Mother would be our best D3 lynch candidate, especially after she came in the thread and mentioned she wanted a replacement, she's never wanted one before so why now? she doesn't even do anything what does she need a replacement for ? its because im assuming she has some kinda role that actually needs time and effort put towards it which she is also unwilling to do. It makes me frustrated that people like her get to play and not participate and then when we start looking in their direction and when she's most likely up for lynch she gets to go "no don't lynch me im gonna get a replacement." but have we heard about any replacement yet? i think it was just to buy her time tbm.

- sorry its short, ended up being rushed cause now im sus and Llama is gonna get away with all there inactivity like every game.

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Panda if cop inspected you what would your response be to them, if you have time.

#Crys if i was cop inspected ? i dunno, why wouldn't i come back as town aligned... insane cop ? unaware miller ? you all know Dolby likes to though those things in so that he can sit back and laugh at us.

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i only have a short amount of time before i start getting ready for work but i will try to address Clam's reply to my reply before then.

 

[PandaDarling]

I'm leaving this up top since it doesn't have much relevance to the case, but it's the answer to my formatting. Well since first you asked about formatting, I put everyone dead at the top in whatever color they were alligned with. They're not in the game anymore, so why put them in this list with a bunch of detailed posts? Sorry I didn't bold them or put them in order of most-least, I just didn't do it.

As for a response:

my response was pointing out that it was really weird that you went and made a color coded scum read thingy majigger and you didnt even much me in it to begin with let alone put me down as a sus read.


Like I said in my post, I checked every most recent list that each person who had died or been pushed for lynch had made. All of them weren't sold on either you or Alexi, and they're all dead. This is excluding scum, who all town read you. As I said, prior to today, the only except to this was Tina, who posted their list during twilight of N/D3, which I also said. Since mafia KP is likely at 1 at this point anyway, you wouldn't have been able to kill her too anyway. I'm not talking about the dead scum that you made cases on, because for one, they all read you as town. "I don't think anyone has sus me up to this point," yes actually, they were never sold on you, as they say in their reads. You've not had a case made against you until now, but that doesn't mean you weren't sus to people. Ayaya I'll cover a different time, Tina I explained.

i still don't know what this means, everyone who's been lynched ? has been scum... and as far as the NK none of them were sus of me, in fact I've heard nothing but "framing" ideas going around from someone so how does that logic make any sense ? actually its the opposite if i had to go back and read the only people that even mentioned me are still alive! you are straight up lying here.

Ness I forgot about, there I admit I was wrong with no argument back. One of the people you brought up for lynch, Qwerty, wasn't lynched but thought you were sus. Every person that is dead sus'd you or Alexi. Cory fought you and you had more than 1 KP. Cory is a skilled player and was not likely to be healed N1. Take him out early, makes sense.

omg sarasakat this is why i didnt respond to this its just a bit contradiction, Clam you bering up examples and then you say they don't work. and as far as Cory goes... Cory wasn't fight me i would say i was fighting cory, you think i would be as dumb to kill someone that would make me look sus, all the mafia have been ding all game is trying to frame people. hence thats why Aron is probably still alive.

I don't know, tbh. I'm new here, I don't know how AtE works on a single person in this game except Cad and Kat. So no, I don't know how she reacts, hence why sus comes out of that statement. So if they overreact, fine, let them AtE in my opinion. It still sounds scummy and my point stands.

how am i supposed to reply to this Clam you are basically taking back what you said...

This was one of the things I've covered since the post was made when answering toad, but I'll reiterate it again so that it's all in one post. Just because you say that doesn't make you not look scummy. That can easily be seen scummy and I'm amazed people don't see how it could come across that way. Sure, at first glance, seems very pro town, but look at it again. You're warning people to not get suspicious or they could be your kill. Just because you said that in public chat doesn't mean that if you or one of your scum mates at the time saw something you didn't like, you could just talk about it in the mafia QT. As for the helping noobs, that's exactly what one of my points. While I know the advice is appreciated and you want the game t be fair so no one just outs their role and you're like "easy win guys," you're also looking to blend in with town. Which I also covered in my originall post.

i never once warned people not to act scummy.... my warning was to make sure the noobs knew that what they say at night can effect the game, so to be careful i don't know why that is hard to understand.

So you're claiming you overreacted? So be it. I still think that what I said is the most likely case. Either there's no roleblocker at all for some reason, they are you, or it's someone who's not sending in actions, which perfectly fits MoAL. You might be pushing for her lynch, but I can bet it's to blend in with the town. Sure a replacement would be nice, but no one suspecting you and being able to coast through the game is better. If she's mafia and we lynch her tonight, awesome, I'm glad. If we do and she's town, then I want if I die tonight it will show people I'm not lying.

yes i overreacted for reasons i stated in my case agains Mother.

That wasn't why I made my reads at all actually, I made them for two reasons. 1. I wanted to contribute more and people keep saying I don't, so I made reads. and 2. I said since the D3 post went up that it gave me a ton of information I needed and to expect something big from me today. So no, it wasn't because I was on your sus list, it was because I was ready to make strong cases. "Oh my god you suck." How creative of an argument to come back with when someone is making a case against you.
Also I promised reads, I made my reads genuine. Just because you were one pushing me to do them doesn't mean I'm gonna go "okay she's town." That's exactly the kind of thinking I addressed in my original post where I said a bunch of the new players probably don't sus you since you've been so helpful and friendly.
As for contradicting myself, no I didn't. If you read it correctly I very clearly explained how there is a difference between my first paragraph and the one you are referring to. While I understand it can be a bit unclear, that may be on me and I'll explain it better. In the beginning paragraph, I listed off the people who sus'd you and then how they ended up dead. In the concluding one, I said how everyone who had previous sus'd you and now Tina, Crys, and I do as of today.

again i already said this so you made a read/case on me just cause we've been pushing you to and so that you don't look sus anymore? and again i don't understand you, who was sus of me and is now dead ? please can you pull a quote of these people and show me cause i don't believe you.

Like I said earlier, if I really have to hard claim, I'll do it. I was hoping people would catch on by now but apparently not, so if I have to actually do it then I will.

i hate responding inside the quotes but i think it might work best here cause its so long, might make it easier so everyone to read. so sorry if it bothers you.

SARASAKAT i can't believe i just went back and replied to that, haha it was basically the same stuff i already addressed and now i feel like im repeating myself as well.

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omg a wagon gets thrown on me, i explain myself and now they all scatter ? this is madness. brb im still here just getting ready for work.

 

[Curry]

SARASAKAT i can't believe i just went back and replied to that, haha it was basically the same stuff i already addressed and now i feel like im repeating myself as well.

That's how I felt. If I gotta make another long explanation, fine, but it may just be easier for me to claim and get this over with.

 

[PandaDarling]

That's how I felt. If I gotta make another long explanation, fine, but it may just be easier for me to claim and get this over with.

@Clam so why did you push me to reply when you know i already replied and you replied with basically the same stuff ha, its a waste of time.

 

[f11]

That's how I felt. If I gotta make another long explanation, fine, but it may just be easier for me to claim and get this over with.

pls don't. She won't get maj yet but I don't think there will be any unvotes.

Can we get Thor in here please.

 

[PandaDarling]

pls don't. She won't get maj yet but I don't think there will be any unvotes.

Can we get Thor in here please.

@Crys Seriously ? haha at first i was like who's Thor does she mean Aron ? haha but i get it you want a hammer.

-also i don't think you have to claim in pretty sure we all know what you are now, i dont know why Crys is backing you so hard though, but Clam do you know what an unaware miller is ? or an insane cop ?

Dolby if there is a insane cop, do they know if they are insane ?

 

[Curry]

@Clam so why did you push me to reply when you know i already replied and you replied with basically the same stuff ha, its a waste of time.

No, because you didn't understand my points the first time, so I thought the second time with me making them clearer would help. Apparently though, you still didn't understand them that time. When I have more time, I'll try and explain myself better again, but apparently everyone else see's my points so I don't see how you don't?

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@Crys Seriously ? haha at first i was like who's Thor does she mean Aron ? haha but i get it you want a hammer.

-also i don't think you have to claim in pretty sure we all know what you are now, i dont know why Crys is backing you so hard though, but Clam do you know what an unaware miller is ? or an insane cop ?

Dolby if there is a insane cop, do they know if they are insane ?

Yes about insane cop and miller.

 

[Dolby]

@Crys Seriously ? haha at first i was like who's Thor does she mean Aron ? haha but i get it you want a hammer.

-also i don't think you have to claim in pretty sure we all know what you are now, i dont know why Crys is backing you so hard though, but Clam do you know what an unaware miller is ? or an insane cop ?

Dolby if there is a insane cop, do they know if they are insane ?

No