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@Aron I see.

Ok, this is the main thing getting me rn. Aron, emotional and put under severe pressure (in his POV), claimed, and said sorry for screwing up the game. Now, he's posting as if someone else is Doc and he's covering for Doc, and those two modes are fine on their own, they make no sense in a sequence of events.
 
@Aron I see.

Ok, this is the main thing getting me rn. Aron, emotional and put under severe pressure (in his POV), claimed, and said sorry for screwing up the game. Now, he's posting as if someone else is Doc and he's covering for Doc, and those two modes are fine on their own, they make no sense in a sequence of events.

Alright, Hopefully I can clear the rest of this discussion up.

I'm not covering for doctor, and I still claim that I am the doctor. However, I said that IN THE EVENT that I was lying (Because some people think I am) The real doctor would still protect me since it's the obvious thing to do. I am sorry for screwing up the game, and I'm not trying to cover for a doctor that doesn't exist.
 
Alright, Hopefully I can clear the rest of this discussion up.

I'm not covering for doctor, and I still claim that I am the doctor. However, I said that IN THE EVENT that I was lying (Because some people think I am) The real doctor would still protect me since it's the obvious thing to do. I am sorry for screwing up the game, and I'm not trying to cover for a doctor that doesn't exist.
If you were lying, why would legit doc protect you? If anything they'd want you lynched right now, right?
 
If you were lying, why would legit doc protect you? If anything they'd want you lynched right now, right?

Not if I was trying to cover for him to keep him alive. If I were the doctor in that scenario I would protect him for one round and if Maf didn't kill him I would do it myself because he's obviously mafia.
 
Not if I was trying to cover for him to keep him alive. If I were the doctor in that scenario I would protect him for one round and if Maf didn't kill him I would do it myself because he's obviously mafia.

So you stopd claiming as doctor or are you the secont doctor?
 
Not if I was trying to cover for him to keep him alive. If I were the doctor in that scenario I would protect him for one round and if Maf didn't kill him I would do it myself because he's obviously mafia.
How can we know your intentions for sure? And like we went over a little bit ago, there's actually a pretty strong possibility mafia wouldn't target Doc, especially if it'd guarentee their lynch the next day.
 
ok, I feel like changing the subject from Aron a little bit, so I'm gonna bring up a different person whose posts have been rubbing me the wrong way since the start as well I want to know what other people make of this stuff

sarasakat said:
Alexi's reply the the third question read odd to me - " So far I'm always town ): so I can't say which one I'd prefer."

It reads insincere.

so you started early on Alexi with the tone of her posts which seemed really petty, I know you said we don't have much to go off of so early anyway so making the most of it and stuff. But I thought it was a weird choice of person, as you've said before that Alexi can be a strong townie and so I think picking her quick was a good way to kinda stop her from building a good following or shake her up before anything gets started like she's done in past games. Honestly this is just a very loose opinion of mine, but looking back now can be seen as a little shady, since other people did put similar answers to Alexi like other people pointed out to you.

sarasakat said:
Half half

It wouldn't be something I would jump over insanely normally, so there's the reaction test half. The other half is semantics. Panda and Alexi may have said the same thing denotative, but it didn't hold the same connotation. You follow?

I just feel like you jumped to a big questioning start and really made some big jabs at people, but made sure to mention other times that this was just off the questionnaires and isn't that big of deal... but you went in[/in] on Alexi early and called out so many other people. Ness and Daniel's were fighting about town hunting when being a scum and it just kinda seems like you have been doing that a lot too. Calling out lurkers, switching the convo to Ness and Meow's suspicions. I feel like you are trying to gauge reactions to find out about people to either make claims later or use info to find out about blue roles and stuff

sarasakat said:
Nice we have two outed mafia already though. I'd say we lynch Honey for the hell of it today. Or if we have a dayvig by chance <3

Clam, I see you lurking. Any thoughts so far?

So then the big honeydew event happened... which I don't think any of us know what to make of it honestly. If you believe them, or honeydew did her research. but you were very quick to start saying lets lynch honeydew or kill them now. Which from a mafia standpoint, knowing that honeydew isn't in the mafia you would love because you can get them out and get a kill for you guys right after.

and at the same point continuing to call out inactive lurking people for more reaction testing it seems like

sarasakat said:
He's reading me off of meta, which is patterns of how I play based off of previous games.

Do you have any other suspicions? Or do you have any other reasons to scumread him and me?

you just seemed very eager to defend yourself and find out what other reasons he might've had to scum read you

sarasakat said:
Games like these have a lot more time allocated per day, and with that, there's more analysis.

Anyone else have a flavour role of someone who's dead? Just making sure Reagan was possbile

this is by far my biggest red flag on you and made me go back and relook over things. yeah you were "just checking" to see if it is possible but your last statement sounds like you threw it in there to make yourself sound right. But to me this sounds more like a scum trying to goad out more blue roles into showing up s you know who to go for next.

sarasakat said:
But:

A. Couldn't you protect yourself
B. You realize the mafia would have to be moronic to shoot someone that's 99% chance protected, right? Why would they shoot you?

now (or since I started writing this post like 15 minutes or so ago) you seem really intent on questioning Aron now that he is trying to give these shotty cover stories. It kinda sounds like you really want to know or press him to give up more, so you know whether to kill him or not/ whether or not he is the actual doctor or not. Lord knows I'm having issues believing him now too


I will be away from my computer and on mobile later today and tomorrow because I'm going out of town. might be back into town before day ends tomorrow though, but Sarasa has been plenty sus to me so far, so I wanted to bring this up with plenty of time to discuss
 
ok, I feel like changing the subject from Aron a little bit, so I'm gonna bring up a different person whose posts have been rubbing me the wrong way since the start as well I want to know what other people make of this stuff

sarasakat said:
Alexi's reply the the third question read odd to me - " So far I'm always town ): so I can't say which one I'd prefer."

It reads insincere.

so you started early on Alexi with the tone of her posts which seemed really petty, I know you said we don't have much to go off of so early anyway so making the most of it and stuff. But I thought it was a weird choice of person, as you've said before that Alexi can be a strong townie and so I think picking her quick was a good way to kinda stop her from building a good following or shake her up before anything gets started like she's done in past games. Honestly this is just a very loose opinion of mine, but looking back now can be seen as a little shady, since other people did put similar answers to Alexi like other people pointed out to you.

sarasakat said:
Half half

It wouldn't be something I would jump over insanely normally, so there's the reaction test half. The other half is semantics. Panda and Alexi may have said the same thing denotative, but it didn't hold the same connotation. You follow?

I just feel like you jumped to a big questioning start and really made some big jabs at people, but made sure to mention other times that this was just off the questionnaires and isn't that big of deal... but you went in[/in] on Alexi early and called out so many other people. Ness and Daniel's were fighting about town hunting when being a scum and it just kinda seems like you have been doing that a lot too. Calling out lurkers, switching the convo to Ness and Meow's suspicions. I feel like you are trying to gauge reactions to find out about people to either make claims later or use info to find out about blue roles and stuff

sarasakat said:
Nice we have two outed mafia already though. I'd say we lynch Honey for the hell of it today. Or if we have a dayvig by chance <3

Clam, I see you lurking. Any thoughts so far?

So then the big honeydew event happened... which I don't think any of us know what to make of it honestly. If you believe them, or honeydew did her research. but you were very quick to start saying lets lynch honeydew or kill them now. Which from a mafia standpoint, knowing that honeydew isn't in the mafia you would love because you can get them out and get a kill for you guys right after.

and at the same point continuing to call out inactive lurking people for more reaction testing it seems like

sarasakat said:
He's reading me off of meta, which is patterns of how I play based off of previous games.

Do you have any other suspicions? Or do you have any other reasons to scumread him and me?

you just seemed very eager to defend yourself and find out what other reasons he might've had to scum read you

sarasakat said:
Games like these have a lot more time allocated per day, and with that, there's more analysis.

Anyone else have a flavour role of someone who's dead? Just making sure Reagan was possbile

this is by far my biggest red flag on you and made me go back and relook over things. yeah you were "just checking" to see if it is possible but your last statement sounds like you threw it in there to make yourself sound right. But to me this sounds more like a scum trying to goad out more blue roles into showing up s you know who to go for next.

sarasakat said:
But:

A. Couldn't you protect yourself
B. You realize the mafia would have to be moronic to shoot someone that's 99% chance protected, right? Why would they shoot you?

now (or since I started writing this post like 15 minutes or so ago) you seem really intent on questioning Aron now that he is trying to give these shotty cover stories. It kinda sounds like you really want to know or press him to give up more, so you know whether to kill him or not/ whether or not he is the actual doctor or not. Lord knows I'm having issues believing him now too


I will be away from my computer and on mobile later today and tomorrow because I'm going out of town. might be back into town before day ends tomorrow though, but Sarasa has been plenty sus to me so far, so I wanted to bring this up with plenty of time to discuss

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oh god double post so long, I'm sorry, idk what happened

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can I edit this to delete it since its a double post
 
Yeah, after reading through the past couple pages (40 posts per page so it's not a lot), it really *SEEMS* like he's townie who THOUGHT claiming doctor would be a good idea.
Then when we all freaked out about him claiming, he realized it was the worst thing he could've done. So, I'm reading him as like 60% town 20% actual doctor 20% scum, for now.
 
I mean I appreciate your initiative Toads but jesus... Your reasons seem a little half baked there tbh

Before I respond, all of your case on me is assuming I'm mafia, and saying why I'm doing X or Y given I'm mafia. So there's some pretty big leaps in logic you're making. You have to consider town motivations, as well.
 

that in response to me? ok.... glitches

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I mean I appreciate your initiative Toads but jesus... Your reasons seem a little half baked there tbh

Before I respond, all of your case on me is assuming I'm mafia, and saying why I'm doing X or Y given I'm mafia. So there's some pretty big leaps in logic you're making. You have to consider town motivations, as well.

yeah I know, but how else should I really be thinking to try to figure out who is and who is not. Mafia is mafia whether its today, tomorrow, or day 10 and you are gonna have reasons for doing the things you are doing at all times. Day 1 Mafia isn't gonna try to be overtly pushy anyway, so yeah I'm gonna jump to conclusions... have I voted on you yet though, absolutely not. I just wanted to know what other people would have to think about these posts, as no one really said anything yet, and the asking other people to semi- role claim was a pretty big red flag
 
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