Mafia Monster Mash Mafia Game Thread (Town Win!)

[tessa grace]

i did one other game here and was town that time, actually

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This meant to be read pretty neutral, but, It feels unfair if your only reasoning is that I’m new and I’m genuinely not sure what else I can say to convince. I started posting more when told i wasn’t posting enough, too, even though i feel like I’m still not adding much

Okay so my read on you is not because you're new. My opinions on your reads had nothing to do with that I just thought that it was strange you were unsure of everyting you said. Not because you're new, but because that can be the energy of mafia sometimes regardless of how long they've played.

yeah, as i said earlier, that’s where I am and why i wasn’t posting much. I don’t feel i have anything substantial to go on (not that i know what i’m looking for anyhow) but was told anything > nothing so you get…something

And I understand this, d1 can be super confusing and dry. Thats why people like shawo and betsy stir the pot a little to get things moving. I truly don't understand your thoughts on maf:betsy because the vote she took was purely for a reaction?

 

[shawo]

tbh instinct says Sidney is town even though I don't like their reads. I'm going to give an overview of what I thought before getting into it.

So far out of the people I've read in this game, the posts I've liked the most have come from Betsy/Sheep.
Starlit not really applicable, same with Random_YT

I'm not entirely sure if Betsy is town!lean because of one post I like, but tbh activity + actual effort means I don't really have it in me to push them d1 anyways.

Trent/Sidney both have posts that look like content but don't really feel like content. I actually think Trent might be my hardest sr after sleeping on it, but I'm gonna need to ISO through it.

Tae might be town? Despite their attitude on killing me? It's a hard sell but I'm just struggling to see why Tae!Maf would do that.

And Tessa needs to be read more tbh, because while I liked their posts I read like, three.

I'm gonna go back and ISO to back up some of my thoughts, but these are my opening thoughts just from catching up to the day.

 

[tae]

@tessa grace if you wanna see shawo get absolutely dumpstered read renaissance mafia.

 

[shawo]

Because we have a role check thing as well, and eliminating today only gives us one more elim chance (with a high chance of offing a townie), i think it’s more wise to have someone that’s for sure suspicious/highly suspected to be mafia rather than just random suggestions

like…what if we accidentally killed off our role check person today? I would think that would be more harmful than losing an elim

Just to address this, I'd be shocked if they died. They'd likely claim and we'd flip off of them. It's still a risk worth taking though, you have to trust that the Det is trying their best to towntell.

 

[tessa grace]

Because we have a role check thing as well, and eliminating today only gives us one more elim chance (with a high chance of offing a townie), i think it’s more wise to have someone that’s for sure suspicious/highly suspected to be mafia rather than just random suggestions

like…what if we accidentally killed off our role check person today? I would think that would be more harmful than losing an elim

We're technically more likely to vote a mafia (2/9) than the role check (1/9)

 

[BetsySundrop]

A lot to catch up with. On mobile which takes forever, ugh.

Tessa- f3 droqen

So I had my reads all in my head, ready to type it in, and after catching up was just confused- so went thru and read the entire thread again. Now gonna organize my thoughts and type it in but takes time on mobile, so be a few minutes.

 

[Sidney]

Okay so my read on you is not because you're new. My opinions on your reads had nothing to do with that I just thought that it was strange you were unsure of everyting you said. Not because you're new, but because that can be the energy of mafia sometimes regardless of how long they've played.

And I understand this, d1 can be super confusing and dry. Thats why people like shawo and betsy stir the pot a little to get things moving. I truly don't understand your thoughts on maf:betsy because the vote she took was purely for a reaction?

sure, yeah

I’m mostly just spitballing. Even though it WAS a reaction, is it not entirely possible it was a manufactured conversation?

I’m not even sure shawo is really maf, he was confusing to me last game too. But if shawo IS maf, betsy is my current pick for maf 2. Not just betsy alone, like, with shawo as a prereq

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Just to address this, I'd be shocked if they died. They'd likely claim and we'd flip off of them. It's still a risk worth taking though, you have to trust that the Det is trying their best to towntell.

It’s mainly my worry with the inactives, since they may not be here to claim

 

[tessa grace]

A lot to catch up with. On mobile which takes forever, ugh.

Tessa- f3 droqen

STOP LAUGHING AT MY TRAUMA IT STILL HURTS
also i too am on mobile, so i feel your pain.

 

[shawo]

I mean it's mostly been you, me, Tae and Betsy so it's not like there's anything/anyone else to offer up. TBH I'm surprised that none of you three even asked me if I had to vote for a person, who would it be?

TBH this +

Still if you're both town, would it not be in your best interests to fish that information out of me? Can tell ya now, Sidney wasn't going to be my vote. Perhaps Betsy or Sheep or even Shawo since those would net is something more to use.

this reads maf to me.

The first post isn't inherently maf, because it reads kinda like "why are you interacting with Betsy but not me." But... when offering their own reads... it just seemed lackluster?

It just feels like an attempt to post something relevant without... any reason. I'm struggling to word this now that I'm describing it, but I feel like town!trent gives reads in a more natural way. This just seems like a self directed play.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

sure yeah

it’s mostly just a gut feeling/sus for now

if i read everything correctly, they were the first two to throw out suggestions for people to be eliminated

First shawo goes for me, an anxious newbie + low hanging fruit + i know my own alignment

Then shawo and betsy engage in a conversation and betsy throws out the next suggestions, two inactives, more low hanging fruit

I can’t townread this because I’m too suspicious of people and just think this would’ve been an easy way for mafia to manufacture a conversation that pushes us towards 3 different elims while not suspecting both of them + easy cover up when it turns up those people are town (if they are)

I'd hope so.

If they were the first two to throw out suggestions for Elim, does that really make them scum? What else should e doing D1?

 

[Sidney]

We're technically more likely to vote a mafia (2/9) than the role check (1/9)

while statistically true, i think mafia would do everything to make sure it’s not them and is any one of the 7/9 town
If our role check is one of the less active and isn’t here to defend themselves….I know it’s a probability thing, but it still worries me and feels too easy for that early to be mafia trying to look helpful to town

 

[tessa grace]

while statistically true, i think mafia would do everything to make sure it’s not them and is any one of the 7/9 town
If our role check is one of the less active and isn’t here to defend themselves….I know it’s a probability thing, but it still worries me and feels too easy for that early to be mafia trying to look helpful to town

Thats why we don't vote less active people? I said that earlier.

 

[Sidney]

I'd hope so.

If they were the first two to throw out suggestions for Elim, does that really make them scum? What else should e doing D1?

Honestly, not sure. I asked what we should be doing d1 and no one really responded besides asking random questions (my one question went unanswered as well)

I just found it odd since we hadn’t even gotten a response from everyone yet
it’s just my biggest gut towards “these two may be working together as maf” though i don’t have anything that scream maf on either. I’m curious to see why shawo stopped gunning for me; that may clear up more

 

[shawo]

sure, yeah

I’m mostly just spitballing. Even though it WAS a reaction, is it not entirely possible it was a manufactured conversation?

I’m not even sure shawo is really maf, he was confusing to me last game too. But if shawo IS maf, betsy is my current pick for maf 2. Not just betsy alone, like, with shawo as a prereq

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It’s mainly my worry with the inactives, since they may not be here to claim

Don't vote the inactives they'll get replaced. Random will, Starlit probs won't.

Anyways, does your read on me have any more substance than two active plays I've made in the game? + If you think my agenda was to get you killed, why didn't I try harder to do so. Your reads follow a super direct Cause -> Mafia. But if anything, I find that people who are more wishy-washy rather than less early on are mafia. Why make an enemy when you can just jump on someone else's read.

And, do you think Betsy!maf is only true if I'm maf? Like, Betsy is towntelling, but a specific engagement with Shawo looks like both could be maf? Or are you just mostly undecided on Betsy.

 

[Sidney]

Thats why we don't vote less active people? I said that earlier.

I think I’m confused as to what you’re saying

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Don't vote the inactives they'll get replaced. Random will, Starlit probs won't.

Anyways, does your read on me have any more substance than two active plays I've made in the game? + If you think my agenda was to get you killed, why didn't I try harder to do so. Your reads follow a super direct Cause -> Mafia. But if anything, I find that people who are more wishy-washy rather than less early on are mafia. Why make an enemy when you can just jump on someone else's read.

And, do you think Betsy!maf is only true if I'm maf? Like, Betsy is towntelling, but a specific engagement with Shawo looks like both could be maf? Or are you just mostly undecided on Betsy.

No, it doesn’t have much of a base this far, esp since recanting your sus on me, though I’m curious as to why and think that may help me get a better read. I addressed that in the post after this plus did put that you did make two good plays so far.

I’d rather not jump on anyone else’s reads because i want to learn to make them for myself + none were presented that i agreed with yet. I think trent may be the one I agree with most outside of what I listed, i just feel like he’d be best at being hiding mafia. But I don’t feel I know enough for a true sus yet

it’s the first on betsy, betsy seems town to me but that specific engagement makes me think potentially both could be maf. but otherwise i think betsy looks town so far or at least haven’t seen anything that suggests otherwise

 

[shawo]

So I was curious. But out of 28 posts (give or take, I didn't expand them all.)
Trent has essentially given reads twice. Once about starlit/sidney, and the quote I gave earlier.

I think that's my biggest gripe reading through Trent's content. It doesn't feel like they're posting to do... anything. It feels like they're posting to post.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. But a lot of posts are just talking about other people's reads - but you haven't done much to share your own.

 

[Sidney]

So I was curious. But out of 28 posts (give or take, I didn't expand them all.)
Trent has essentially given reads twice. Once about starlit/sidney, and the quote I gave earlier.

I think that's my biggest gripe reading through Trent's content. It doesn't feel like they're posting to do... anything. It feels like they're posting to post.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. But a lot of posts are just talking about other people's reads - but you haven't done much to share your own.

Sheep villager’s are similar, I think. I’ll have to reread to make sure of some things before stating for sure. Where is sheep now?

 

[shawo]

Since you're curious,

I’m honestly just not sure what all to say on day one (well, that, and having to recheck tbt every so often for posts)

I feel like we’ll know more regardless of what happens after the first vote (we’ll have more to go on, at least, i think)


Should we try one of those five questions things? I’m not sure that will give us much info, but I’m still on the newer side too, so, willing if others want ofc

I’d have to look back to see what kind of questions have been asked in previous games

I’m generally not super great at ice breakers

I think we already mostly got pronouns out of the way too

I guess my big question for now is how everyone wants to go about the rest of day one?

Here and here you repeat yourself with the idea that "I'm not good at day one."

Sure. But that looks like a setup to excuse yourself from any scumtells you might make when called on it.

IE: yeah, I said I was bad at d1, that's why I'm playing like this.

So, I was going to push you to see a reaction... but by the time you came back... it was really late for me.
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I actually only think you are town because I understand the way you've gotten your reads. Which is also why I was defending myself to you. While direct, I don't think the process you used to get reads looked like you were pushing an agenda. -> Especially since you seemed fairly committal about them. I'm not willing to commit to a town!Sidney because you still do make posts that I tend to dislike, but I think your reads have been more telling about your alignment than anything else.

 

[Sheep Villager]

Sheep villager’s are similar, I think. I’ll have to reread to make sure of some things before stating for sure. Where is sheep now?

I'm here just working on throwing together my thoughts on everyone. You can ask me questions if you'd like.

 

[BetsySundrop]

All right, probably not much help but this is what i see:

Shawo- I'm reading shawo as town lean ish. I realize how it looks with the push for shawo/betsy team (town team, sure), but I think shawo is following the same pushing techniques as in the other game we were in. I'm confused with why sidney reads the sidney maf/discuss as anything other than a tactic to generate activity at that time. Also confused as to why sidney keeps referring to it as a betsy/shawo convo when it was several people asking/answering if we HAD to vote questions. (I understand tunneling, but maybe go back to take a look at that entire conversation). Dunno....seems shawo isn't tunneling, but more throwing stuff out.

Sidney- gotta be honest, not a fan of the edited posts (three of them), but just gonna assume it was accidental, as I'm limited to mobile, and it's easy to make mistakes. I read sidney town lean at first, mostly for activity, and I think the shawo push might be just a bit of omgus, maybe? I don't think I see any sus teamwork, and I truly understand the questioning of what/how much to post as everything is seen as sus. I wouldn't vote sidney today.

Starlit- I've played with starlit before, and the hesitancy to vote elim d1 is not unusual in town!starlit. I do wish there would have been more opinions given on actual thread content, but also didn't see anything I can point to as wolfy except as said before- low substance/inactivity. Seems just nothing to go on.

Tessa- late activity, but glad you made it, and it's substantial activity/reads, more than some who were here at game start presented, so seems more town!tessa at this time.

More to come...