right, sorry about my lack of activity, i spent today hung over due to bad life choices, i'm posting my reads that i made last night that i am now updating because of last nights circumstances, rip seroja ily. i'm not great at reads so please feel free to question me on anything
heyden: i like all the contributions you have made so far, especially picking up on dan and prim's lack of activity earlier in the game, i feel as if they're slipping under the radar by many of us (although now i'm feeling like prim is probably a mod kill). the only thing that makes me a little uneasy is the fact that you didn't vote day one right? it could have been a genuine mistake but it might have been a way to go unnoticed. i feel like all of your reads and thoughts are really genuine and i find your comments on panda and nightmares to be pretty towny.
xcleb: your second post while informative didn't bring anything new up (reiterated what trundle had said, reiterated what dolby said etc) and didn't have any opinion on the stuff happening at that point (f11, heyden and panda). after your period of inactivity we only really have three reads from you, you're obviously a good player, i'd rather you didn't write essays and actually had time to comment on every person in the game rather than just three. i think a lot of what you said about heyden was interesting but i think you're reaching at certain parts (the 'wow' statement and hayden's 'name 4 scum') can't decide if you just minutely analyse everything so much or if you're delibretly picking up on such (what i think) is insignificant details. your read on nightmares is odd, i absolutely think nightmares is improving so much and has showed real good stuff in this game but your comment about her being town leader seemed really odd to say especially when you compare it to your comment about heyden not showing any prominence as town leader. like i feel like it's so irrelevant? she's not shown any leader qualities in this game. i'm kind of scum reading you as of rn but that is likely to shift based on more of your reads if you write them.
nightmares: guuuuurl, i like your reads! i usually find it hard to make a read on you because your attitude is a little off-putting sometimes but i sense a genuinely helpful tone and attitude in this game! the only reason i don't town read you more is your post count is way shorter than usual and while i don't think your posts seem forced they seem a lot more thought out than usual. when you're town you're a bit of a loose cannon, its almost as if someone has reigned you in a little..? i think i'll leave you on null rn but i like your content, post more
zendal (replaced): my head says town but my heart is still unsure lol. your attitude in the beginning of the game was off-putting like i previously mentioned but that claim has made me question my suspicion on you. i think if you were mafia it would just be too bizarre to fake claim when you weren't even in any danger. to me, it seems like you got scared about the heat you were receiving and claimed without really thinking it through. i just can't really get behind a scenario where mafia would do that (especially a relatively new player, my only thought is that maybe someone more experienced advised you to do that but i don't see why they would). in the previous games i had absolutely no hesitation you were town but i just can't get the same feeling from this game. i'd like it if anyone could answer me why a mafia player would bother to fake claim like that since it would attract a lot of attention, i feel like i'm missing something. not to mention the whole role description thing was bizarre in itself but if anything surely a mafia player would have a little more common sense... i'm gonna use my head and town lean you and hope i'm not being majorly fooled by you.
tensu: you remind me so much of when i was mafia in my very first game ever, i was able to confidently push anyone because i didn't have the same sense of uncertainty as a town player would have. you have this really confident attitude because (maybe) you're not truly in the dark like an ordinary town member, that's honestly the feeling i get from you. i'm not one for meta because honestly i don't have time to read games i didn't play in but it'd be interesting to see if you usually play this way, in the game we played where you got lynched day one you certainly didn't come across in the same way at all. the jump from that game to now is just too staggering for me to ignore (and rather than a natural progression of confidence that everyone will feel you seem to be a bit cocky). however content wise i'm agreeing with a lot of what you're saying, i really like that you brought up my similar thoughts on cleb, i'm so glad you thought their interaction were weird too.
damniel: a lot of your posts are filler and jokes but you did say to expect that i guess... we have the same opinion on corrie and zendal though so i appreciate that you also thought the same as me, also you were first to call out zendal on their role pm which i think is a pretty town thing to do. i lean town on you right now but the lack of content is worrying me
jacob: dude i feel as if your comment on me applies to me as well, i'm not good at guessing your alignment at all. you always come across as a bit scummy to me. i can't decide how i feel regarding your last post, how can you town lean panda based on her interactions with seroja, i don't see how their interactions make that much of an impact on panda's alignment, seroja has since flipped town and thought that panda was mafia, it's like that whole analysis was made from the point of view that seroja's alignment wasn't revealed (did you say you wrote that whole comment before end of night and posted it after?). at the end of the day panda is still alive, she wasn't killed by mafia, there are two obvious scenarios: panda is mafia and that is why she wasn't killed. panda is town and mafia are trying to frame her. yet you didn't bring that as an argument up, just a bunch of stuff about their conversation. i'm sure you have an explanation and i'm being dumb but right now i'm just a bit eh. also your 'reads' so far have been pretty suspicious, one is probably gonna get modkilled (prim), one is town (seroja) and one (me) you admitted you can't trust because you never read me right. poor show! seems kinda bold to be mafia and be the only one scum reading seroja and then kill her though but eh, sometimes that is the best disguise.. also i keep going back to your corrie lynch, i understand why you think it was 'logical' but it would be far easier for mafia to argue it was 'logical' so they can't take as much heat for just being plain scummy (cause i think it was fairly obvious she was town)
f11: i think i pretty much town lean you, you're putting a lot of effort into your reads and i agree with your thoughts on jacob and nightmares (not heyden though so much). usually in games i find myself automatically trusting people without really thinking about it consciously and you're that person for me in this game. i just think all of what you say is genuine and straight forward and i don't sense any sort of sneakiness from you. although i don't know why you're giving tensu a hard time since i think he was right in his points especially since you scum read him a bit (weird interaction between you two??). also meta isn't my strong point because i'm lazy but aren't you usually a little haphazard as town (why i find trouble reading you in games) your seriousness makes me question things a little bit
amanda1983: null right now, i didn't really gain any particular town or mafia leanings from your reads, i'm looking forward to seeing your updated reads and your post regarding trundle!
apple2013: ok so every game i have played with you i have town read you (you've always been town), like i usually trust you so much so the fact that i don't feel that way at all this game is a red flag for me. you're too good at mafia to know that corrie would have been a mislynch, i can understand jacob and his 'logic' and i can understand new players finding her scummy but anyone who has played enough games of mafia should have known corrie was typical town, it's not as if you weren't mafia leaning panda, it would have been better to keep our numbers up by keeping corrie. also a lot of what you say seems so forced 'i'm actually probably the worst mafia player in existence'. also it'd be better if you expanded on your reads before day ends, you haven't really posted much about anyone in your night reads and it's not overly helpful. to me you lead that corrie lynch and i can't ignore it, sorrrry. i think it's one of those cases we see a lot on day 1 where maf justify themselves by blaming the person lynched (i.e that comment about corrie being banned from mafia)
pandadarling: my brain hurts from trying to figure out where you are. i'm sensing there's more information to come so i'm not gonna write a long read that i'll have to disregard later but right now i'm more leaning on the side that you may be town and you're being framed HOWEVER why on earth would mafia not kill you if you're soft claiming a blue role (if you indeed are), wouldn't that be way too risky? unless they think you're a third party or something? which could be true, possibly but then again it's way too risky if you're not? i feel like i need other peoples insights on this.. i thought for sure if panda doesn't die then she must logically be mafia... so therefore i feel like i kind of need to vote you again but i don't want to make you have to claim if this is all true and it negatively effects town... I'M REALLY CONFUSED
primarina: haven't really posted anything
so basically keeping an eye on trundle, jacob, panda and less so cleb and tensu
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jesus christ i had no idea i had written so much, sorry, seems smaller when you're just typing
