Politics General Discussion Thread - "USA Presidential Election 2016" Editon

[Arlo]

A gay man was violently attacked in the US today.

POC have had their homes vandalized.

Trans people are killing themselves.

Women are being sexually harassed.

It's gonna spread more hate into the UK too, and as a gay, transgender man, who's partner is an immigrant, and my dad is Arabic, I'm ****ing terrified. It's great if you're not, you're probably a white, straight man, lucky you.

 

[seliph]

I get it you guys are upset that Trump won the presidency, but nothing would be different had Hillary won. A lot of people, my family included - I'm not ashamed of that, view Hillary Clinton equally if not more horrible as/than Trump.
If Hillary won, there would still be riots, hate and destruction.
Trump's policies will effect a lot of families more positively than Hillary's and it's disgusting that you guys are making those voters feel bad about it.

No one actually wants Trump, most people just hate Hillary. Just as much as you hate Trump.
It's not like all this would just be a-ok if Hillary did win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Voting Trump does not automatically make anyone racist, sexist, homophobic or whatever the media is telling you to believe, so stop pretending it's true. It just makes them a republican.

It happened already so the faster we can all get over it, the less negativity will be spread around.

If Hillary winning caused the same destruction as I listed above, they would be against the President. Everything I mentioned is in the name of the President. That discrimination is done in support of the man running the freaking country. That is a million times more terrifying.

Trump's policies are already making people scared to be out as LGBT, making people scared to wear hijabs or any non-christian religious garments, making people scared to leave the house because of the colour of their skin. The damn KKK was seen celebrating on a bridge. Trump had already negatively impacted families not even a day after he was elected.

 

[Bowie]

I'm confident he won't survive. Never before has there been a president over 50% of people actually hate with a passion.

Trump supporters are talking about how there were no riots when Obama got elected. Know why? Because he wasn't a convicted rapist, he'd never tried to have sex with a married woman, and he never said anything racist. Obama is the most human president America has had in recent years.

 

[seliph]

A gay man was violently attacked in the US today.

POC have had their homes vandalized.

Trans people are killing themselves.

Women are being sexually harassed.

It's gonna spread more hate into the UK too, and as a gay, transgender man, who's partner is an immigrant, and my dad is Arabic, I'm ****ing terrified. It's great if you're not, you're probably a white, straight man, lucky you.

Speaking of overseas, not too long ago Poland wanted to criminalize abortion but was thankfully shut down by the huge Czarny Protest. Now they are using Trump being president, who thinks women should be punished for abortions, to bring back those anti-abortion laws they wanted and to push people into believing that it's the right way to think since "America agrees."

- - - Post Merge - - -

I'm confident he won't survive. Never before has there been a president over 50% of people actually hate with a passion.

Trump supporters are talking about how there were no riots when Obama got elected. Know why? Because he wasn't a convicted rapist, he'd never tried to have sex with a married woman, and he never said anything racist. Obama is the most human president America has had in recent years.

There were riots. There were racist riots against him because people didn't want a black man as president no matter what he believed in.

Very different from the Trump riots but still riots.

 

[EpicGamer12]

If Hillary winning caused the same destruction as I listed above, they would be against the President. Everything I mentioned is in the name of the President. That discrimination is done in support of the man running the freaking country. That is a million times more terrifying.

Trump's policies are already making people scared to be out as LGBT, making people scared to wear hijabs or any non-christian religious garments, making people scared to leave the house because of the colour of their skin. The damn KKK was seen celebrating on a bridge. Trump had already negatively impacted families not even a day after he was elected.

Trump has made no policies yet. He has made talk. So does every candidate before election. I believe there is severe overreaction when it comes the fear that exists right now. People have a reason to fear other people (there are large groups of people that are intentionally spreading hate and violence, which ironically stems from fear itself). Fear is the cause of these issues and the only way to fix them is through education, calm discussion, and at most, peaceful protest. If Trump does create policies that inflict oppression on groups of people, there will be reasonable backlash.

 

[Bowie]

There were riots. There were racist riots against him because people didn't want a black man as president no matter what he believed in.

Very different from the Trump riots but still riots.

I think they're referring to riots on as big a scale as that, yes.

It's so dumb to me, though. Having Trump is such a downgrade to what we already have. When you elect someone as your president, surely you need someone better. He's not anywhere near Obama's level. Doesn't even deserve to shake hands with him. I can only imagine what he was feeling this morning, having to negotiate with a man who intends to reverse almost everything he has spent his time as president doing.

 

[EpicGamer12]

I think they're referring to riots on as big a scale as that, yes.

It's so dumb to me, though. Having Trump is such a downgrade to what we already have. When you elect someone as your president, surely you need someone better. He's not anywhere near Obama's level. Doesn't even deserve to shake hands with him. I can only imagine what he was feeling this morning, having to negotiate with a man who intends to reverse almost everything he has spent his time as president doing.

I see where you're coming from but presidents can't simply get better every single time a new one is elected. It also hasn't happened through history, and likely never will. In the end you have to remember that politics is politics. Creation and removal of policies is a key part of the reason democracy is how it is.

 

[moonford]

Hillarys concession was beautiful, even if she is horrible I still feel sympathetic because she lost to Trump. Trump a person with zero political experience up until now.

 

[Arlo]

He hasn't made policies yet, but he's made people think it's fine to say the sort of stuff he's said. Just today I saw a woman's car on facebook that had "TRUMP RULES BLACK B****" and Swastikas with "TRUMP 2016" under them.

 

[EpicGamer12]

He hasn't made policies yet, but he's made people think it's fine to say the sort of stuff he's said. Just today I saw a woman's car on facebook that had "TRUMP RULES BLACK B****" and Swastikas with "TRUMP 2016" under them.

There are extremists in all circumstances. Please try to be understanding of that and you will have a more pragmatic view of politics.

 

[moonford]

I think they're referring to riots on as big a scale as that, yes.

It's so dumb to me, though. Having Trump is such a downgrade to what we already have. When you elect someone as your president, surely you need someone better. He's not anywhere near Obama's level. Doesn't even deserve to shake hands with him. I can only imagine what he was feeling this morning, having to negotiate with a man who intends to reverse almost everything he has spent his time as president doing.

Misread.

 

[Arlo]

There are extremists in all circumstances. Please try to be understanding of that and you will have a more pragmatic view of politics.

Donald Trump supports this kind of behaviour. He personally demonstrated this kind of behaviour during his candidacy.

 

[Soda Fox]

A gay man was violently attacked in the US today.

POC have had their homes vandalized.

Trans people are killing themselves.

Women are being sexually harassed.

It's gonna spread more hate into the UK too, and as a gay, transgender man, who's partner is an immigrant, and my dad is Arabic, I'm ****ing terrified. It's great if you're not, you're probably a white, straight man, lucky you.

Ive seen more reports of gays, poc, women being attacked and harassed by Hillary supporters because said gays, poc, women voted for Trump. I'd like to see your sources otherwise.

As for people killing themselves, i mean they did it to themselves so I don't really get that point.

 

[chibibunnyx]

I get it you guys are upset that Trump won the presidency, but nothing would be different had Hillary won. A lot of people, my family included - I'm not ashamed of that, view Hillary Clinton equally if not more horrible as/than Trump.
If Hillary won, there would still be riots, hate and destruction.
Trump's policies will effect a lot of families more positively than Hillary's and it's disgusting that you guys are making those voters feel bad about it.

No one actually wants Trump, most people just hate Hillary. Just as much as you hate Trump.
It's not like all this would just be a-ok if Hillary did win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Voting Trump does not automatically make anyone racist, sexist, homophobic or whatever the media is telling you to believe, so stop pretending it's true. It just makes them a republican.

It happened already so the faster we can all get over it, the less negativity will be spread around.

of course it doesn't make the racist, sexists, etc... it just means they promoted a racist, sexist, etc to run our country. In my eyes, it's the same deal, but to separate the two, there you go, smh.

 

[Arlo]

Ive seen more reports of gays, poc, women being attacked and harassed by Hillary supporters because said gays, poc, women voted for Trump. I'd like to see your sources otherwise.

As for people killing themselves, i mean they did it to themselves so I don't really get that point.

It's literally all over the internet. I've not seen anyone being attacked by Hillary supporters.

Suicide isn't a choice, it's a solution to when you can't cope anymore.

Here's some sources:
http://qz.com/833607/us-election-a-...en-out-in-the-us-after-donald-trumps-victory/

https://thinkprogress.org/islamophobia-two-days-since-election-c4e20bc4c18c#.eggdl3e5r

vhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html

 

[chibibunnyx]

the comments in this thread are just completely full of it. W O W.

 

[seliph]

Ive seen more reports of gays, poc, women being attacked and harassed by Hillary supporters because said gays, poc, women voted for Trump. I'd like to see your sources otherwise.

As for people killing themselves, i mean they did it to themselves so I don't really get that point.

Where are all these reports? I'll admit to hearing about the homeless woman who was beaten up but where are all the others?

These suicide victims' suicides were driven. Their deaths are not their own faults.

 

[-Apples-]

It's actually sad to see people commiting suicide just because of an election result. I never seen people take an election that seriously.

 

[KermitTea]

Just a reminder that many of the "violent Trump protestors" were paid for by Hillary's campaign

- - - Post Merge - - -

Last week: "Guys, remember it's important to accept the outcome of the election"
This week: protests, burns flags, "Not my president"

LIT

 

[Bowie]

Just a reminder that many of the "violent Trump protestors" were paid for by Hillary's campaign

- - - Post Merge - - -

Last week: "Guys, remember it's important to accept the outcome of the election"
This week: protests, burns flags, "Not my president"

LIT

She wouldn't have to pay me a dime to get on those streets with signs.