Pro-life or Pro-choice
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kiwi-strawberry
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kinda a weird topic for this site but i'll bite
100% FIRMLY pro-choice. not willing to budge
100% FIRMLY pro-choice. not willing to budge
Even though I'm spiritually against abortion as a Christian since I believe a human life with a soul comes to be right at conception, I do however see different politically since I'm a Libertarian for the most part when it comes individual freedoms (as long as the inalienable rights of others are not violated in the process). I do realize this seems hypocritical since people can debate all day whether someone's life (an inalienable right) is being violated through abortion, but I try to keep it in the perspective of the general populous who may not have the same viewpoints or convictions like I do due to my religion. In my opinion, because the United States (my viewpoint is based upon being a American) in particular is a melting pot of many different cultures and beliefs, I think abortion should be legal since it protects women from illegal establishments (which were all over the place prior to Roe vs. Wade) that could potentially compromise their health due to malpractice. I also think women have a right to choose how they live in their own skin within the confines of the established law of the land.
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xSuperMario64x
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I'm mostly pro-choice, but I do think it's morally wrong to abort a baby if it's in the third trimester or if the mother is perfectly capable of having and raising the child.
oh boy, repost time!
show me someone that's pro-life and not just pro-fetus **** everything else
and to add to that, all "pro-life" anti-abortion arguments are just about controlling women and nothing else
show me someone that's pro-life and not just pro-fetus **** everything else
and to add to that, all "pro-life" anti-abortion arguments are just about controlling women and nothing else
nintendofan85
Good grief.
Pro-choice. I don't feel like it's the government's responsibility to decide what a woman does with her body.
just because you're capable of having and raising a child doesn't mean you should bring a child into the world if you're incapable of loving them because you didn't actually want a child, it's a woman's choice whether she wants to raise a child whether she has the means to or not. i'm pro choice, it's your body and the government has no right to regulate that
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i agree about the third trimester part. i almost find it terrible if one was to abort a perfectly healthy baby that is able to already independently survive outside the uterus, despite what the mothers reasons are (assuming she is healthy as well). im glad late abortions like that are very very low percentage wise.
otherwise im prochoice...i feel i could never see myself getting an abortion if the sex was consensual.
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I'm pro choice and I'm even religious. There are many cases where a woman gets pregnant from rape or unprotected sex so I guess it's fair to let her choose what she wants to do. There are also times when the mother or the baby is in risk of dying in which abortion is going to want to be an option.
Although sometimes I feel it's kinda immoral to give up a baby just because you don't want to love one when you are capable to do it. Worse if the father of the baby actually did want to raise and love it. Some women wish they could have their own babies but then the ones who actually can do it just abort.
However even if it does seem immoral to me, there really isn't anything we can or should do about it since a woman owns their body.
Although sometimes I feel it's kinda immoral to give up a baby just because you don't want to love one when you are capable to do it. Worse if the father of the baby actually did want to raise and love it. Some women wish they could have their own babies but then the ones who actually can do it just abort.
However even if it does seem immoral to me, there really isn't anything we can or should do about it since a woman owns their body.
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calling it pro-life and pro-choice is just a wedge tactic and something to make people feel better for putting spiritual hokey above women's rights. you can't talk about irresponsible pregnancies on one hand and cut out a responsible solution on the other. the thing isn't sapient; there is no more awareness in a fetus than a roach, and it sure doesn't upset anyone to scrape their flesh off the floor. and i don't want to govern based on magical thinking any more than we americans already do. you tried voodoo economics, now try your voodoo, rags to riches success story baby today! when a conservative, create your own talking points by contributing to the exact situation you complain about out the other side of your backside!
i think we should rename the "debate" future serfs incorporated vs. basic empathy and humanitarian philosophy 101
but, maybe as someone with a terminal illness born to a 19 year old mother who sacrificed so much and lost so much to keep me alive, i have a different perspective of the agonizing guilt and uncertainty people are asking mothers to take on in a country who brands strife with a scarlet letter, who likes to preach, but doesn't like to practice. and it's a real shame they drown out the people who can balance their spiritual beliefs and demonstrate a real concern for life. but, sadly, the progressive minds that exist in religions have been hijacked by theocratic oligarchs and nobody can hear them.
even though i'm not keen on spiritual stuff, i respect those that try their best to reconcile their beliefs with the needs of the many.
yeah i'm "pro-choice"
i think we should rename the "debate" future serfs incorporated vs. basic empathy and humanitarian philosophy 101
but, maybe as someone with a terminal illness born to a 19 year old mother who sacrificed so much and lost so much to keep me alive, i have a different perspective of the agonizing guilt and uncertainty people are asking mothers to take on in a country who brands strife with a scarlet letter, who likes to preach, but doesn't like to practice. and it's a real shame they drown out the people who can balance their spiritual beliefs and demonstrate a real concern for life. but, sadly, the progressive minds that exist in religions have been hijacked by theocratic oligarchs and nobody can hear them.
even though i'm not keen on spiritual stuff, i respect those that try their best to reconcile their beliefs with the needs of the many.
yeah i'm "pro-choice"
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It is not black and white honestly.
I am pro choice, though I have seen others question what is too far once we get into dilemmas such as
-aborting a baby once you find out it will have something you dont like
- being able to recognize that abortion was highly encouraged for marginalized communities in the US as an attempt of sterilization, out of the thought of "the less of them, better"
im not talking about planned parenthoods original founder either. it is no secret that abortion was encouraged more often in poor communities.
in this day and age, the right to abortion is very important. however, it is interesting to note that abortion was hindered from white women in some areas, yet encouraged for black/brown women. abortion and history needs to be looked not only on the middle class perspective.
I am pro choice, though I have seen others question what is too far once we get into dilemmas such as
-aborting a baby once you find out it will have something you dont like
- being able to recognize that abortion was highly encouraged for marginalized communities in the US as an attempt of sterilization, out of the thought of "the less of them, better"
im not talking about planned parenthoods original founder either. it is no secret that abortion was encouraged more often in poor communities.
in this day and age, the right to abortion is very important. however, it is interesting to note that abortion was hindered from white women in some areas, yet encouraged for black/brown women. abortion and history needs to be looked not only on the middle class perspective.
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How people can be pro-life when illegal abortions and really strict laws are still in use in this time is beyond my brain, but yeah let's see how long this thread will last.
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Wish my parents thought of that, lol. Or rather they were not capable of raising nor taking care of me good so sometimes I wonder. And sometime you wish one would need a license to become a parent, or at least go through a psychiatric examination for it. It's sad to see what fine people have come at just because parents had no ****ing idea.
lowaltitude
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As someone who was born to their parents when they were only 21 years old, the feeling of guilt for having essentially ruined their lives is not something I would wish upon anybody else. To me it doesn't matter what reason you have for wanting/needing an abortion. If having a kid would ruin their or your own life, then it's 100% okay in my book. Other people's opinions shouldn't matter.
We live in pretty advanced times. Not everybody needs to have kids anymore in order for the human race to survive. I'm glad we have the freedom of choice in this regard, and I wouldn't want any government making that decision for anybody. Morality has nothing to do with it.
We live in pretty advanced times. Not everybody needs to have kids anymore in order for the human race to survive. I'm glad we have the freedom of choice in this regard, and I wouldn't want any government making that decision for anybody. Morality has nothing to do with it.
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I'm pro choice too.
Like Tina said, I'm not ready for a child and I don't really think I want a child. Many people say stuff like "once you get pregnant/see the baby's face you'll change your mind!" but I think it is one horrible idea. Some just lack this inate instinct to be a parent, and both the child and the parent are miserable. Even as a kid I could see that some of my friends' parents had absolutely no business being a mom or dad.
I'm pro choice too.
Like Tina said, I'm not ready for a child and I don't really think I want a child. Many people say stuff like "once you get pregnant/see the baby's face you'll change your mind!" but I think it is one horrible idea. Some just lack this inate instinct to be a parent, and both the child and the parent are miserable. Even as a kid I could see that some of my friends' parents had absolutely no business being a mom or dad.
Soot Sprite
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Pro choice all the way. I've noticed most pro life people don't really care about a baby after it's born, just that is is born. In my opinion what someone does really isn't my business in the first place, and whether I believe something is right or wrong or not my opinion shouldn't impact someone else. I believe it's very irresponsible to bring a child into this world knowing you can't take care of it.
Yeah, considering it's too easy to become pregnant even if use you use all kinds of protection if you're unlucky... yeah. Yeah, I don't want kids either since I'm definitely not someone who likes performing those tasks and my own parents shouldn't really have had a kid either if you get the drill. And yeah "omg just wait til you maybe have one" arguments or whatnot just please shut up.
To add further I wouldn't want a miniature copy of myself with high risks of getting Asperger either.
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