Remember in the last game we were in together, when you were mafia? I literally told you that you had to explain yourself up front otherwise people would assume that you're reasons for your behavior isn't
legit.
You not explaining yourself up front allows people to assume that "Hey, they are just stalling to find a reason to actually back up your claim" or "Hey, they could've had a different reason for their behavior but came up with this excuse after x amount of time". You need to explain your thoughts ahead of time.
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Regarding volt, their inactivity is suspicious but looking back, their discussion also feels fillerish. I do agree with Betsy though that the outburst didn't felt force, like at all.
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Volt is a null but I'll do an ISO and reads tomorrow
guys ik i promised that i'd be more active but i'm feeling really stressed with school and sick so hopefully i can get better read but for now i'm just going to draw and hopefully calm some nerves down and get some rest. i'm sorry for the low activity
lol i completely forgot about volt. hmm...
this disappearance feels like day 1 where i was sus of them for the lack of posting. i was thinking maybe volt was busy with life but with the really quick "get off geoni" comment clearly shows volt was lurking. so when volt shows up they put in pretty town seeming content, and i don't know how i feel about this non presence again...
now that you mention it...
ok, did a quick search, yeah it was kinda like filler->content->filler (chronologically)
i will entertain the idea that volt could be mafia, but honestly i'm just waiting to see if they'll show up and post content stuff again lol, as this could be a pattern
guys ik i promised that i'd be more active but i'm feeling really stressed with school and sick so hopefully i can get better read but for now i'm just going to draw and hopefully calm some nerves down and get some rest. i'm sorry for the low activity
Hello Tessa! A fellow Baby Parker
sorry to be on you right from the start but last game I played with you, you used the same excuses (school + stress + sick) for not being around and you were mafia! it was all true but STILL!
hope you feel better, i've got my eye on you
also please let us know your thoughts when you do catch up
Ok sooooooo
Good reads: volt, volt is acting really townie but might be mafia if so is a very good faker and if should be played with again I will re read this game. B100ming for sure our friendly neighbor for sending a message to Betsy.
Shell bell gives reasonable info and seems nice towards others and does amazing when taking notes about people.
Mixed reads: Antonio seems kinda mafia and has been really hostile towards others but then again that could just be them.
Tessa according to shell bell is using the same excuses as last time (so I have my eye on you Tessa). Betsy seems fine does normal town stuff such as : takes notes, points suspicion, the usual .
That’s it I forgot if we have more people
Ok sooooooo
Good reads: volt, volt is acting really townie but might be mafia if so is a very good faker and if should be played with again I will re read this game. B100ming for sure our friendly neighbor for sending a message to Betsy.
Shell bell gives reasonable info and seems nice towards others and does amazing when taking notes about people.
Mixed reads: Antonio seems kinda mafia and has been really hostile towards others but then again that could just be them.
Tessa according to shell bell is using the same excuses as last time (so I have my eye on you Tessa). Betsy seems fine does normal town stuff such as : takes notes, points suspicion, the usual .
That’s it I forgot if we have more people
Ok sooooooo
Good reads: volt, volt is acting really townie but might be mafia if so is a very good faker and if should be played with again I will re read this game. B100ming for sure our friendly neighbor for sending a message to Betsy.
Shell bell gives reasonable info and seems nice towards others and does amazing when taking notes about people.
Mixed reads: Antonio seems kinda mafia and has been really hostile towards others but then again that could just be them.
Tessa according to shell bell is using the same excuses as last time (so I have my eye on you Tessa). Betsy seems fine does normal town stuff such as : takes notes, points suspicion, the usual .
That’s it I forgot if we have more people
Volt- at eod d1 I really had volt on my sus list (explained in previous post, the light sus/unanswered questions, then sudden long absence, then back in game for last part of d1). I thought geoni/volt could be a possible team (see previous on why geoni was sus), and voted geoni. However- after I saw geoni had claimed jailkeeper (and I switched my vote off of him)...I noticed volts CAPITAL LETTERS of GET YOUR VOTE OFF GEONI to either b100ming or myself. That has cleared volt for me. It appeared to be town completely frustrated with people voting a claimed pr. I think it was genuine frustration, in a situation where mafia would just keep quiet and let it happen, so volt is town.
I haven't noticed anything else that stood out that didn't fit with what seems usual.
I’m not sure if im convinced about that being the primary reason to townread them. sure, if could be a genuine reaction to the geoni. but like, what did it do? geoni had claimed PR— was anyone going to keep their vote on him? if he had said this before geoni claimed (or if geoni wasn’t a PR at all), it would be different. But I think that claim would’ve saved him from elimination regardless, so it could just have been faked tbh. he’s been very silent today and for half of D1 and i’m not sure that his EoD reaction makes up for that
lol i completely forgot about volt. hmm...
this disappearance feels like day 1 where i was sus of them for the lack of posting. i was thinking maybe volt was busy with life but with the really quick "get off geoni" comment clearly shows volt was lurking. so when volt shows up they put in pretty town seeming content, and i don't know how i feel about this non presence again...
well, volt was there a few minutes before EoD posting a little bit so i don’t think he was lurking lurking. but like i said before, i find it really odd how he didn’t know that EoD was happening when he was in the game since day start
is day phase 24 hours? or did we have a whole 24 hour of no content
anyway, upon reading dan he kinda seems wolfy? Just a weak meta read tho. I would like to see if the slot evolves
I kinda want to get potter rn tbh no activity and sub only with 2 days of no post
if comes off to me as he wanted to look present at EoD but not do anything that would draw attention
And when he was here EoD, what did he do? He just wants to go on potter and says to get off geoni after the claim. he was definitely playing very passive
i’ll also note that he mentioned i was wolfy but literally never brought it up again
overall, i’m not seeing much conviction for solve and it kinda just feels like he’s doing what he can to avoid any attention by not giving any thorough reads for a while
Remember in the last game we were in together, when you were mafia? I literally told you that you had to explain yourself up front otherwise people would assume that you're reasons for your behavior isn't
legit.
You not explaining yourself up front allows people to assume that "Hey, they are just stalling to find a reason to actually back up your claim" or "Hey, they could've had a different reason for their behavior but came up with this excuse after x amount of time". You need to explain your thoughts ahead of time.
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Regarding volt, their inactivity is suspicious but looking back, their discussion also feels fillerish. I do agree with Betsy though that the outburst didn't felt force, like at all.
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Volt is a null but I'll do an ISO and reads tomorrow
I believe I have explained things, and while I did not have anything pre-typed, and it did take me time to answer things/ type in everything, I did do exactly that. You continue to claim that I did not, which is false.
I have been very upfront with everything I've done, all of the reads I have, all of my reasons, and I have given detailed reads. I stated in that first post that I was posting my town/sus list, answering shells questions, then doing reads/reasoning. I did not try to sidestep an explanation. At. All. So I feel you are not being very honest about that. Nothing personal. I just think you have an agenda.
This d2 has only cemented you as wolf in my mind. First, there was the overly strong reaction to my vote on you. I notice when I get a vote (like d1), it doesn't bother me like that. When volt voted me, he didn't post an explanation, and I didn't get upset about it. I know I'm flipping town. If a wagon is pushed on me, and I get voted off, it can help town with gathering more information. I did ask volt for an explanation, btw, and he eventually gave it. No big deal. No reason to be upset.
I read your responses to some if my susses, noticed the ones you did not respond to, and none of that changed my mind.
I also notice something else. You are consistently saying things like "remember when you were mafia" as if you want to link "betsy" and "mafia" together as much as possible, when in fact I played very differently when I was maf. You also link these things with my actions, for example- because I did not have everything pretyped and took time with that, I must be mafia. That is a dumb reason. Shellbell having things pretyped is actually the first time I've seen that done.
I believe I've proven myself town. I was the first to speak up when b100ming suggested roleclaim. I switched my vote off geoni as soon as he roleclaimed. I've given detailed reads, and while I have a bad track record (abysmal, really) at sussing, I think I'm better at spotting reasons for people to be town. And when I decided to do that when looking over d1, try to find town instead of try to find wolf, it helped a lot. Could I be wrong? Psh, of course! Nobody is perfect.
Antonio, your reaction to my vote was to basically claim shellbell and I were a possible team (ridiculous, as shell had questions for geoni in her typed statement, so she obviously didn't know he was nk), to start a campaign of well, betsy must be mafia because she didnt explain fast enough, and to be quite, well, upset. (And oddly, I didn't think shell was pushing you, I thought she had questions for everybody, including me, and I didn't feel upset about her questions). All of those things bother me. If you were town, and received a d2 vote, with the person saying they planned on listing everything that night, it feels like you would be like, ok, I'll respond to that when they're listed. If you just had a strong omgus reaction, that's not helpful. But I could see a maf being really upset.
What I believe is happening - a push to remove a strong, active town d2. Then nk will probably be another strong town. Then tomorrow railroading an easy target, and maf wins the game d3. I have ghost in my poe simply because of the process of eliminating, but this morning ghost put up a good read! I'm glad he did this, because if he is town, he will need to defend himself d3, as I get the feeling he will be the target.
So that's my thoughts this morning. I'll be off this morning, back on later afternoon, as usual.
Ok sooooooo
Good reads: volt, volt is acting really townie but might be mafia if so is a very good faker and if should be played with again I will re read this game. B100ming for sure our friendly neighbor for sending a message to Betsy.
Shell bell gives reasonable info and seems nice towards others and does amazing when taking notes about people.
Mixed reads: Antonio seems kinda mafia and has been really hostile towards others but then again that could just be them
Tessa according to shell bell is using the same excuses as last time (so I have my eye on you Tessa). Betsy seems fine does normal town stuff such as : takes notes, points suspicion, the usual .
That’s it I forgot if we have more people
while this is a step up in terms of content. i’m finding all these reads really vague. he doesn’t bring up any specific examples/moments where these players did something to warrant the read, so it’s kinda meh. like everyone is a townread except tessa antonio and me. i’m also not sure where the tessa/me theory he had went given he had such strong conviction on it earlier
i would really like some elaboration on how he arrived to these conclusions
I’m not sure if im convinced about that being the primary reason to townread them. sure, if could be a genuine reaction to the geoni. but like, what did it do? geoni had claimed PR— was anyone going to keep their vote on him? if he had said this before geoni claimed (or if geoni wasn’t a PR at all), it would be different. But I think that claim would’ve saved him from elimination regardless, so it could just have been faked tbh. he’s been very silent today and for half of D1 and i’m not sure that his EoD reaction makes up for that
The weird thing with volt, is that he seems to normally have long absences, then a lot of activity the latter part of the day (as in -the 48 hour day). I did go back and skim a game he was town in (i think it was the ace/sheep game, i dunno, I've looked at several, lol), and a long absence wasn't atypical. But it isn't helpful, and is so hard to read for.
Ok sooooooo
Good reads: volt, volt is acting really townie but might be mafia if so is a very good faker and if should be played with again I will re read this game. B100ming for sure our friendly neighbor for sending a message to Betsy.
Shell bell gives reasonable info and seems nice towards others and does amazing when taking notes about people.
Mixed reads: Antonio seems kinda mafia and has been really hostile towards others but then again that could just be them.
Tessa according to shell bell is using the same excuses as last time (so I have my eye on you Tessa). Betsy seems fine does normal town stuff such as : takes notes, points suspicion, the usual .
That’s it I forgot if we have more people
The weird thing with volt, is that he seems to normally have long absences, then a lot of activity the latter part of the day (as in -the 48 hour day). I did go back and skim a game he was town in (i think it was the ace/sheep game, i dunno, I've looked at several, lol), and a long absence wasn't atypical. But it isn't helpful, and is so hard to read for.
i noticed that they’ve been playing multiple games lately which is why i think they’re normally not as active, but even then volt usually has a stronger impact/reads. this whole game has kinda felt like a huge coast. they need to be here for me to start thinking otherwise
oh whoops. idk, it feels a bit tinfoily. i dont know how much more likely it would be for partners to coincidently post the same thought than it would be for t/t or t/w to do the same
It's not just about the similar thought though, it's more that both of the same thought happened so closely together. If it was a bit spread out, I wouldn't even be thinking this though.
I do agree that her behavior does allow her to jump between different ideas. I also feel her first post at the beginning of day 2 where she posted her reads but didn't explain them right then in there allowed her time to come up with an
I think it’s really funny how Antonio and Damniel are so quick to agree with each other, and then call Betsy and Shellbell for agreeing with each other.
