Mafia Squeaky Clean Mafia - Day 3 - Ends Monday May 25 at 7pm EST

[epona]

At that point Antonio said I was scum, and I believe he is, what I meant by that is that mafia do actions during the night cycle, so they are awake and get to know how is on their team.

what do you mean by this

 

[Geoni]

It's not. When I say painful, I mean I wish I had an opinion. I feel like I should. But I don't. Also, yall aren't getting the full picture behind my Teddy pressure. It wasn't just trying to get info from the slot; hell, I don't know where I stand with him right now even. I was trying to get him involved in the game. He was active in other parts of the forum, and he seemed very receptionist cheery at the start of thread, so I wanted to break him in.

I realize this isn't my usual form. Yall are right in that I should focus on other people more, but I just don't know what to ask right now, or how to pressure it. And if I end up being the lynch for that, honestly? Fair. There isn't much better to go off of and I can see how that'd be seen as sus, esp when I'm not really bringing anything else to the table right now. I'll see if I can think of something but rn I'm still coming blank

Yeah I would think you should have an opinion or try to weigh their towny and scummy moments in the least. Goes back to you not solving enough. And Teddy seemed involved enough in the game lol, just not making actual reads on people. This is mildly defeatist in terms of emotion but enough people seem to not want to lynch you. Feels more like you're frozen for some reason. Maybe it'll pick up by EoD.

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Kat > Bianca > volt > epona

When it comes to who I prioritize for a lynch. Bianca doesn't really give us much of anything but a red flip probably. But from what little I've seen of her she hasn't been towning. Volt over epona feels like an effort read at the end of the day. I've found epona's decisions and stances largely murky but they at least have what appears as solving efforts.

I'll try to get on for a few minutes in my first hour of work (which is like the last hour before EoD RIP me) but right now I really need sleep because I've worked for 15 hours in the past day. With not enough oxygen reaching my brain. Someone pressure Bianca to actually make a read for heck's sake. She's had some lackluster D1s before but this takes the cake.

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what do you mean by this

smh if any of you actually take the time to just...read Teddy over two or three times you'll figure out he meant to use a different word. How = who. This gets old.

 

[Ace Marvel]

what do you mean by this

This is me talking werewolves language, sorry for the confusion, I don't what you call the actions of the mafia, but in werewolves when they kill someone, it's phrased as "the werewolves were awake last night and killed someone" me believing Antonio is scum, said that since they said I was mafia, so if they really believe I'm on their team, they will find out during the night cycle, because we will be "awake".

 

[EpicGamer12]

I still want to hear more from bell account, voltairenism, and bianca before I decide on a vote for today. We have like 7-8 hours I think.

 

[epona]

smh if any of you actually take the time to just...read Teddy over two or three times you'll figure out he meant to use a different word. How = who. This gets old.

why are you so on my back? that's not what it meant. sounds by the post that teddy is implying that the scumteam don't currently know who each other is, and that they'll only find out during the night. just trying to get him to elaborate on it

 

[DinoTown]

I'm at the same pool if you replace DinoTown with Bianca. I'm just not sold on Dinotown being scum yet because she's more or less elaborating on the points brought up against her now that some of the overdefending has blown over but I would like to know where they stand in terms of their suspect pool since my time for the phase is about over. The other three I've explained. I've looked ahead and epona posted so I'm dedicating some energy to that.

My pool currently includes Volt and Bianca as those I am happy to lynch.
I am also wary of Trundle but not to the point of I think I want to lynch today.
I am also wary of Kat and Teddy but since I believe that only one and not the other is maf, and am unsure of the direction of that swing, I don't want to deal with that just yet.
I think if all of that fails, I would want to look into Bell and Epona a bit more but that's a lot further down the line.

 

[epona]

This is me talking werewolves language, sorry for the confusion, I don't what you call the actions of the mafia, but in werewolves when they kill someone, it's phrased as "the werewolves were awake last night and killed someone" me believing Antonio is scum, said that since they said I was mafia, so if they really believe I'm on their team, they will find out during the night cycle, because we will be "awake".

i'm just writing this off as a townslip for now lmao

 

[Ace Marvel]

i'm just writing this off as a townslip for now lmao

I was trying to be smart with my wording, it is stated in the rules that they know from the start, but their real action is at night, that's what I was going for, and not everyone know everybody's roles. What I should have said was something more like "Then we will kill later tonight" since I believe you are scum and you believe I'm scum. So yes I used the wrong words there, but if that puts me on the towns list I'll take it.

I will try to be more clear and simple with my wording, since English is not my native language, I sometimes do literal translations, which might lose the original meaning. This is not me justifying myself, but I want all the players to have a better understanding of me in those regards.

 

[epona]

I was trying to be smart with my wording, it is stated in the rules that they know from the start, but their real action is at night, that's what I was going for, and not everyone know everybody's roles. What I should have said was something more like "Then we will kill later tonight" since I believe you are scum and you believe I'm scum. So yes I used the wrong words there, but if that puts me on the towns list I'll take it.

I will try to be more clear and simple with my wording, since English is not my native language, I sometimes do literal translations, which might lose the original meaning. This is not me justifying myself, but I want all the players to have a better understanding of me in those regards.

that's ok dw, i work in a non-native language so i understand things getting lost in translation. thanks for clarifying

 

[Seroja]

This post is confusion. The first sentence, and especially the bolded phrase doesn't make sense to me. Can you please paraphrase it to clarify what you meant? After peon said I was not helping I posted my report on what I think of everyone, and some start believing I was mafia, that's what I was trying to say.

Am I the only one who thinks this comment is... off? 'Cause it makes me feel off. I'm not sure what being awake has to do with anything (but I could just be being stupid), more importantly, the whole "wait and see" thing has just... basically given mafia a good reason to leave Teddy alive to cast more suspicion over 'em. At that point Antonio said I was scum, and I believe he is, what I meant by that is that mafia do actions during the night cycle, so they are awake and get to know how is on their team. So I think Antonio is mafia, so that's why I say that, when they decided on their night action, if I am mafia as they think I am, they will find out during this cycle. In werewolves you awake at night when you are one, that's where my phrase comes from.

thanks for clarifying, I'm more comfortable with putting you in my townleans now.

@Geoni it was a tinfoil hat kind of theory, which I'm scrapping now after seeing Teddy's latest posts.

 

[Ace Marvel]

At that point Antonio said I was scum, and I believe he is, what I meant by that is that mafia do actions during the night cycle, so they are awake and get to know how is on their team. So I think Antonio is mafia, so that's why I say that, when they decided on their night action, if I am mafia as they think I am, they will find out during this cycle. In werewolves you awake at night when you are one, that's where my phrase comes from.

And by this I meant" knowing their team" in a way that you may know roles, but not the others play style until you have gone through the first day.
this comes from a phrases in Spanish "Luz de candil, obscuridad de la casa" literal translation: streetlight's light, home's darkness, which means you might think you know someone on the outside (streetlight) but not on the inside (home), you might see clear thanks to the streetlight, but once you go inside the house you really get to know how people really are.

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Hope that helps explain a little more my wording in all this.

 

[voltairenism]

cant wait for me to flip town and yall realize that I'm just dumb

Is the biased the way the roles are given? I would say in the good spirit of the game, I hope anyone could have any role
Kat (sorry her username is too complicated) feels to me that she was just lost. I generally think bell is bringing good things to the table and talking about Kat and Teddy interaction is a good throwback for something that seemed normal at the time, but they were teasing each other to keep the ball rolling, as you can see that Teddy keeps asking her questions back, thus so many replies from her. The reasoning why she's null to me is not trying to be helpful in any way, and I know, if you try too hard you are bangwagoning or nitpicking in this economy, but there wasn't anything actually actively town from her.
Yes, I am a bit butthurt btw, because I still think no one is talking about mayorleaf and their unreasonable sus about everything and everyone and just making a fuss. Maybe I don't agree with their voting to get reactions, they strat just seem all over the place and not making any concrete arguments. Dinotown defensive stance is weird and I think we are not getting anywhere with questioning Teddy's wording. It's quite the safe bet for an attack, tbh. And I understand Teddy's struggle of not being a native english speaker and having an weird disconnect persona, but I'm hoping I'm not bringing him down with me.

Anyway, this is pretty raw, sorry for typos, but I don't have patience to read my posts a thousand of times.

 

[Ace Marvel]

And all this came from me trying to provoke Antonio to say something, it was figurative speech. I was not trying to imply something directly.

At this moment I still believe Antonio is scum.

 

[epona]

cant wait for me to flip town and yall realize that I'm just dumb

Is the biased the way the roles are given? I would say in the good spirit of the game, I hope anyone could have any role
Kat (sorry her username is too complicated) feels to me that she was just lost. I generally think bell is bringing good things to the table and talking about Kat and Teddy interaction is a good throwback for something that seemed normal at the time, but they were teasing each other to keep the ball rolling, as you can see that Teddy keeps asking her questions back, thus so many replies from her. The reasoning why she's null to me is not trying to be helpful in any way, and I know, if you try too hard you are bangwagoning or nitpicking in this economy, but there wasn't anything actually actively town from her.
Yes, I am a bit butthurt btw, because I still think no one is talking about mayorleaf and their unreasonable sus about everything and everyone and just making a fuss. Maybe I don't agree with their voting to get reactions, they strat just seem all over the place and not making any concrete arguments. Dinotown defensive stance is weird and I think we are not getting anywhere with questioning Teddy's wording. It's quite the safe bet for an attack, tbh. And I understand Teddy's struggle of not being a native english speaker and having an weird disconnect persona, but I'm hoping I'm not bringing him down with me.

Anyway, this is pretty raw, sorry for typos, but I don't have patience to read my posts a thousand of times.

so who would you advocate for lynching?

 

[Ace Marvel]

I will be absent for a while, but I'll leave my report here, I will give more in-depth comments when I have a little more time

1. Trundle - town
2. epona - scum (least one)
3. dinotown - town
4. bell accont - null
5. mayor leaf -null
6. seroja - null
7. biancasbotique - town
8. voltairenism - town
9. geoni - town
10. Antonio - scum
11. Teddy345 (me) the weird one
12. Arstotzkhan - scum

 

[Biancasbotique]

ok im trying to give you my impression. you know i am so bad at day 1 reads!

1. Trundle- i am always null on trundle- him scumreading someone on first day is not really indicative of anything but this is trundle. The last time I played with him, he was really passionate as town. I wanna see it somehow even to the point of sussing me always. Scum? only time will tell
2. epona- makes good reads- seems very townish-I do admit though that long wall posts- I get distracted so i don't really read them but scum can make long reads as well. she and dinotown are on the same wavelength
3. dinotown- we had a little bit conversation and she knows why I voted for her and she seems cool. The point about her early posts being very overtly confident as town seems towny but scummy at the same time. I cannot fully explain as there is something off about her
4. bell accont- hmmm..I've seen them makes posts but it didn't leave impression on me. Could be scum
5. mayor leaf- she reminds me of me when she voted early on. she seems townish but scum could be lurking underneath
6. seroja- Seroja will always appear towny to me unless- something happens that will make me suss of her. nothing yet so far but I am putting her as null because that's just me- paranoid
7. voltairenism- his posts seems random and just all over the place.
8. geoni- I am always scared of mafia Geoni! because he is unpredictable. He is usually helpful as town and he seems to be helping town but i dont know. His long wall posts are truly what scares me.
9. Antonio- I am always null on Antonio- he is squeaky clean this time around and he seems to be helping town but then I worked with Antonio before and he could be towny and no one would even suspect
10. Teddy345- first of all I am biased about Teddy- I can never see anything wrong with him- and his impression seems like pure-actually if i think about it-he and dinotown are on the same wavelength with their approach at things to say - but scum could be hiding behind all that
11. Arstotzkhan- Kat is very good at scumhunting-she's the mom, but she is also good scum- her initial take on Teddy- I thought that was just a town /town exchange and didnt really think of it but she could be fishing for information or setting up Teddy

 

[toadsworthy]

Stepping in to say good job on keeping it clean so far ya'll!

and also its about 7.5 hours before end of day - so make sure to get your votes in

 

[Seroja]

cant wait for me to flip town and yall realize that I'm just dumb

Is the biased the way the roles are given? I would say in the good spirit of the game, I hope anyone could have any role
Kat (sorry her username is too complicated) feels to me that she was just lost. I generally think bell is bringing good things to the table and talking about Kat and Teddy interaction is a good throwback for something that seemed normal at the time, but they were teasing each other to keep the ball rolling, as you can see that Teddy keeps asking her questions back, thus so many replies from her. The reasoning why she's null to me is not trying to be helpful in any way, and I know, if you try too hard you are bangwagoning or nitpicking in this economy, but there wasn't anything actually actively town from her.
Yes, I am a bit butthurt btw, because I still think no one is talking about mayorleaf and their unreasonable sus about everything and everyone and just making a fuss. Maybe I don't agree with their voting to get reactions, they strat just seem all over the place and not making any concrete arguments. Dinotown defensive stance is weird and I think we are not getting anywhere with questioning Teddy's wording. It's quite the safe bet for an attack, tbh. And I understand Teddy's struggle of not being a native english speaker and having an weird disconnect persona, but I'm hoping I'm not bringing him down with me.

Anyway, this is pretty raw, sorry for typos, but I don't have patience to read my posts a thousand of times.

I lowkey like this post despite the slight ATE being used. You brought up some very good points, I could be biased with my read on Mayor Leaf because I agree with her reads for the most part. But you're right that being sus about everything and everyone (without solid reasoning) isn't exactly a good look cos it plays like a mafia who wants to have as many (mis)lynch options as possible.

Also English as Second Language users unite!

 

[voltairenism]

so who would you advocate for lynching?

Mayorleaf or Antonio.
I am going to ignore the meta reading of trundle and geoni because it's just too sparse. They could be lying, they could be wrong and Antonio is just putting up a persona. I think with his experience he could put a helpful read list but overall it seems that he is trying to not make town work together by picking things that seem to be useful, but as we go in further into the line is a dead end.
Mayorleaf, I already stated why. They arent in the same mindset as me and I can't understand why someone have this facade when they are town. Like, I understand putting on a poker face when you are scum but why being like that when you are town?

 

[epona]

Mayorleaf or Antonio.
I am going to ignore the meta reading of trundle and geoni because it's just too sparse. They could be lying, they could be wrong and Antonio is just putting up a persona. I think with his experience he could put a helpful read list but overall it seems that he is trying to not make town work together by picking things that seem to be useful, but as we go in further into the line is a dead end.
Mayorleaf, I already stated why. They arent in the same mindset as me and I can't understand why someone have this facade when they are town. Like, I understand putting on a poker face when you are scum but why being like that when you are town?

i'm still sussing antonio but want to wait for them to catch up/post before i make any decisions either way

i haven't cleared mayor leaf at all and i'm fairly null on her currently, like i said i think she's flying under the radar and is lacking consistency but at the moment i don't think she's a good choice for a lynch purely because a) i don't have enough to go off and b) if she flips town, her death isn't going to give us much insight into anybody else because she hasn't been discussed much