Mafia Squeaky Clean Mafia - Day 3 - Ends Monday May 25 at 7pm EST

[Damniel]

Don't try and dumbtell about your own role Mr Clean!

I'm looking at this page and seeing moments I question that being said, namely your response to Mayor and what you are saying to bell here

i don't really know what you mean here

what are the odds that the action can be made during the day phase? how plausible is that?

its not impossible but at what point could that day action be used? first half of the day, or anytime in the day? a day janitor who can target near the EoD feels like a really broken role to me

 

[Geoni]

that's convenient

i'm Ideonella Sakaiensis, a bacteria that breaks down/degrades plastic

does that make anything any clearer? no
this roleclaiming is not helping us at all and is literally just distracting us from choosing who to lynch, which we need to do in the next two hours.

i'm actually inclined to believe claiming was a distraction tactic by arstotzkhan because i really doubt she wouldn't have read toads' disclaimer in the OP dissuading us from trying to determine alignments from role names

Why are -you- claiming though?

 

[Seroja]

i don't really know what you mean here



its not impossible but at what point could that day action be used? first half of the day, or anytime in the day? a day janitor who can target near the EoD feels like a really broken role to me

I- did you draw that?

also yeah that would indeed be super broken. I guess I'll wait for more info about it before making guesses.

 

[Geoni]

Dan on a tonal level you responded to Mayor with a 'you're not wrong to suspect me and I don't think it's wrong to' sincerity vibe that I think is best to do in your situation subbing into that slot and I disagree bell account completely forgetting about the game being sus and expect higher level thoughts from you.

While I am still looking at this page what are your impressions from reading the thread so far?

 

[bell account]

I disagree bell account completely forgetting about the game

i didnt forget about the game

 

[Geoni]

Also Dan your tone seems disappointed/unhappy and I know you don't like randing scum from what I noticed but I'll let you do your thing. Could be that nobody wants to replace into that slot.

 

[bell account]

which slot is daniel

 

[Geoni]

i didnt forget about the game

You seemed to forget when EoD was. Ngl I was kinda excited to see how you were at EoD knowing you are from MU.

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which slot is daniel

Volt

 

[Damniel]

I- did you draw that?

also yeah that would indeed be super broken. I guess I'll wait for more info about it before making guesses.

no lol found on google

i mean if the janitor is a one shot than its possible. but there's a lot of possibilities so i think a passive role is most likely

I disagree bell account completely forgetting about the game being sus and expect higher level thoughts from you.

While I am still looking at this page what are your impressions from reading the thread so far?

i didn't say bell was sus i meant more that they didn't seem motivated/a reasonable player by not wanting to read the rules or game

the whole day seems off as it was pretty much universally agreed upon that Kat would be lynched, which i haven't seen in a long time. I was expecting a blitz to have come, but the fact that there wasn't one and those who wanted to lynch someone else didn't really push for it/defend kat makes me believe that there was some knowledge that Kat wouldn't flip so it would be an even easier wagon to jump on (i.e. kat was either aware maf with the power or maf targeted her)

i also do not like that like 6 people already claimed for no real reason. kat was the only one with a real reason to, then dino and antonio really tried to push that there could be connection between role and name which led to a lot of new players to subsequently claim. even though these two players have had experience to know not to try to fish claims and should've read the OP saying not to read based on names

Also Dan your tone seems disappointed/unhappy and I know you don't like randing scum from what I noticed but I'll let you do your thing. Could be that nobody wants to replace into that slot.

i want to play and i think i was the only one to sign up to replace. im unhappy with how the day went but not that im here

 

[bell account]

You seemed to forget when EoD was. Ngl I was kinda excited to see how you were at EoD knowing you are from MU.

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Volt

i was just in salt lake all day without internet, i would have been here for eod otherwise not really like theres much else for me to do hahahahaaa

okay now thats really interesting cause the slot seemed pretty pure to me why does it now seem to be consensus scum

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we should just have the janitor claim that way we know what happened to the lynch

 

[Damniel]

we should just have the janitor claim that way we know what happened to the lynch

a janitor would def not be town aligned. not having a flip is harmful to town

 

[Geoni]

ok im trying to give you my impression. you know i am so bad at day 1 reads!

1. Trundle- i am always null on trundle- him scumreading someone on first day is not really indicative of anything but this is trundle. The last time I played with him, he was really passionate as town. I wanna see it somehow even to the point of sussing me always. Scum? only time will tell
2. epona- makes good reads- seems very townish-I do admit though that long wall posts- I get distracted so i don't really read them but scum can make long reads as well. she and dinotown are on the same wavelength
3. dinotown- we had a little bit conversation and she knows why I voted for her and she seems cool. The point about her early posts being very overtly confident as town seems towny but scummy at the same time. I cannot fully explain as there is something off about her
4. bell accont- hmmm..I've seen them makes posts but it didn't leave impression on me. Could be scum
5. mayor leaf- she reminds me of me when she voted early on. she seems townish but scum could be lurking underneath
6. seroja- Seroja will always appear towny to me unless- something happens that will make me suss of her. nothing yet so far but I am putting her as null because that's just me- paranoid
7. voltairenism- his posts seems random and just all over the place.
8. geoni- I am always scared of mafia Geoni! because he is unpredictable. He is usually helpful as town and he seems to be helping town but i dont know. His long wall posts are truly what scares me.
9. Antonio- I am always null on Antonio- he is squeaky clean this time around and he seems to be helping town but then I worked with Antonio before and he could be towny and no one would even suspect
10. Teddy345- first of all I am biased about Teddy- I can never see anything wrong with him- and his impression seems like pure-actually if i think about it-he and dinotown are on the same wavelength with their approach at things to say - but scum could be hiding behind all that
11. Arstotzkhan- Kat is very good at scumhunting-she's the mom, but she is also good scum- her initial take on Teddy- I thought that was just a town /town exchange and didnt really think of it but she could be fishing for information or setting up Teddy

This is terrible I want to like...not let this be ignored, I only see one read in the entire list that isn't punctuated with 'but' - you don't come across as making any decision on someone after all in these reads and I still hate that moment where you brought up human balancing. Struggling to take stances that come from a solvey standpoint is wildly apparent Bianca

 

[Seroja]

i was just in salt lake all day without internet, i would have been here for eod otherwise not really like theres much else for me to do hahahahaaa

okay now thats really interesting cause the slot seemed pretty pure to me why does it now seem to be consensus scum

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we should just have the janitor claim that way we know what happened to the lynch

I think the mayorleaf/volt episode made volt appear scummy which I'm not seeing at all. not sure why Geoni would slot it as rand wolf or whatever that means.

honestly, what does RAND even means? I haven't read a mafia game in years so there are couple of terms I'm not familiar with. also is wolf a term used to call mafia now?

 

[Geoni]

I'm going to bed and will be here before EoD (which is 7am my time).



Correct me if I'm wrong but you're not town-leaning or scum-leaning anyone at all in your reads list. Everyone reads as "seems town but could be scum" or vice versa for you. I'm sorry but this seems very scummy to me. I think you should have formed a solid opinion on at least one or two players by this point.

@Seroja here's a perfect example of a mindmeld

 

[Damniel]

one thing ill give bianca is that she claimed her name but not her role. she's been a weak presence so far and her two posts of note are the "potential scum pool" which is just the experienced players (which is half the list) and her not wanting to lynch kat but not trying to convince anyone to vote off her. her lack of pushing a wagon actually doesn't come off as scummy to me. currently my theory is that maf was aware that kat wouldn't flip at all. i think if Bianca was scum and knew this, she would've tried harder to lead a counterwagon. this is because she knew a counterwagon would fall, and she could've tried to get town cred by showing she put effort while not being blamed for not voting kat since there was no reveal so i think with my theory scum would've either jumped on the Kat wagon or try hard to lead another wagon since they wouldn't get blamed for joining a mislynch/not joining a scum lynch. in either case i don't think it mattered if Kat was scum or not actually

 

[Geoni]

I still want to hear more from bell account, voltairenism, and bianca before I decide on a vote for today. We have like 7-8 hours I think.

Placed a vote on Kat since I am not a fan of her posts this game and I don't think her current behaviour is helpful to the town.

Trundle this is NAGL, I'll read the rest of you but it was a bit simple in reasoning as a justification for joining the wagon and you had said you were waiting to decide on a vote.

 

[Damniel]

so tdlr i don't think biancas weak vote is alignment indicative but she hasn't done much to help town

 

[Seroja]

one thing ill give bianca is that she claimed her name but not her role. she's been a weak presence so far and her two posts of note are the "potential scum pool" which is just the experienced players (which is half the list) and her not wanting to lynch kat but not trying to convince anyone to vote off her. her lack of pushing a wagon actually doesn't come off as scummy to me. currently my theory is that maf was aware that kat wouldn't flip at all. i think if Bianca was scum and knew this, she would've tried harder to lead a counterwagon. this is because she knew a counterwagon would fall, and she could've tried to get town cred by showing she put effort while not being blamed for not voting kat since there was no reveal so i think with my theory scum would've either jumped on the Kat wagon or try hard to lead another wagon since they wouldn't get blamed for joining a mislynch/not joining a scum lynch. in either case i don't think it mattered if Kat was scum or not actually

sooo from what I understand

1. Scum!Bianca would have pushed for another wagon because she knew it would fail anyway
2. As a result she would get towncred because Kat didn't flip anyway?

but it didn't matter anyway... so does that mean it's more likely for Bianca to be scum or not considering what she did (or didn't do)?

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whoops ninja'd

 

[g u a v a]

you shouldn't yet i haven't done anything to earn a universal town read. but lmk what you think of my thoughts so far (mainly on why Kat hasn't flipped and the amount of people claiming townie for no reason)

i think i feel comfortable claiming kat as town because she didnt really give enough of a reason to think otherwise.

i was just in salt lake all day without internet, i would have been here for eod otherwise not really like theres much else for me to do hahahahaaa

okay now thats really interesting cause the slot seemed pretty pure to me why does it now seem to be consensus scum

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we should just have the janitor claim that way we know what happened to the lynch

here's my reasoning for why volt/dan is maf.

i have a suspicion that bianca gives me scummy vibes because she jumped on board with volt against me when i started voicing my sus on volt. it's also weird how she tried to derail my argument to try to make it look like volt was being framed here. felt like a big reach.

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also scratch out the i have a suspicion, changed sentence structure and forgot to delete lol.

 

[Damniel]

but it didn't matter anyway... so does that mean it's more likely for Bianca to be scum or not considering what she did (or didn't do)?

i think if maf knew kat wouldn't flip. there's no real reason why they wouldn't jump on her wagon as its an easy one to hide in since there was no other valid counter wagon to choose between. the only way I could see maf from benefiting from voting for someone else is to try to get town crew for being "original" and not voting a universal wagon. volt, bianca, and mayorleaf were the only ones not to vote for kat but neither of them were really hard on trying to lead a counter wagon. i don't think these 3 had a real reason to deviate from the common wagon. mayorleaf and bianca COULD be maf and possibly have tried to be "original" anyways, but I don't think this would be proof of their scumminess

here's my reasoning for why volt/dan is maf.

i have a suspicion that bianca gives me scummy vibes because she jumped on board with volt against me when i started voicing my sus on volt. it's also weird how she tried to derail my argument to try to make it look like volt was being framed here. felt like a big reach.

its fair enough to still be sus of me bc of volt, but im not volt so if you're going to continue to sus my slot down the line it should also include what ive done that is scummy. if volt was scum, than that means im just going to further prove it