Mafia Squeaky Clean Mafia - Day 3 - Ends Monday May 25 at 7pm EST

[Antonio]

what you actually think and what early impressions you're actually getting instead of just commentary on thoughts that other people have voiced.

I personally think we should consider everyone a suspect and not have any solid 100% reads unless confirmed in some sort of way. I think there should also be a discussion on everyone as well.

My early impression were Trundle sudden scum read on Dino was suspicious, Dad's behavior regarding it was weird because he is usually on these things and DinoTown was quite confident compared to last game. I also felt @Arstotzkan is the most town motivated compared to the rest. That's my early impressions however Dad later posts feels town motivated and DinoTown confidence wan't reallly alignment indicating. I am still curious on Trundle early scum read but I feel like I don't have any more solid opinions and I'm not 100% sure how to go about it besides stating my thoughts, as i have been doing.

 

[epona]

Honestly, you said that I wasn't giving too much of original input and I agree with you. I am just collecting my thoughts and waiting for geonio and trundle input, since they seem to be hot topics right now.
But I was going to comment on Antonio saying about the dinotown bandwagon, since I was one of them, and it's kind of confusing to know they low-key support me on dinotown when I said it was unnecessary rant, but then telling that mafia jumped on the bandwagon of pushing her, and I seemly was one of them. I mean, the original post seems at little more accusatory, then it turned to "hey, shouldnt we talk about more people?" (I am reading the thread pretty closely so I am keep my impressions of the messages as soon as I read them) but I don't want to be guessing tones again since I feel like I was in the wrong track with dinotown.

what

1) what are your current impressions on dinotown? from this post i get the impression you're still feeling iffy about her but now feel you have to backtrack because antonio pointed out it could be a scum push on dinotown?

2) antonio never said outright that it was a mafia bandwagon on dinotown, just that it could be a potentially advantageous opportunity for mafia to jump on a dinotown lynch wagon, and that it was a big possibility (which is true if she's town)

3) antonio never mentioned you by name at all? what do you mean 'seemingly i was one of them'? nobody was singled out it was just an observation

 

[voltairenism]

Oh I see Antonio talking about the joke. I take too long to type xD

 

[DinoTown]

sure, i voted trundle because votes can be unvoted. to have a single post to go off of and immediately say “that’s maf” doesn’t sit right with me. i’m going with gut.

i understand the “get the ball rolling” aspect of the comment but at this moment i’m just not ~that~ suspicious of dino and way more suspicious of trundle and those who followed suit with no question.

though as i’m writing this dino did throw some suspicion on me so who knows maybe i should be more wary of her.



to answer you directly, i’m not big on asking permission. the votes changeable so i figured it’s not as severe. i stated my suspicions in my previous post. there’s not much else beyond that, i’m really going on gut at the moment.

That's fine then, good for you for being brave enough to put the first real vote of the game in (since Bianca's is mostly a joke). I didn't want to throw suspicion on you, I just genuinely wanted to know if it was weird or not to not mention you were voting if you were the first to vote for a while, since I think I always would mention it. Your reasoning sounds solid though, so no suspicion throwing from me.

 

[Antonio]

I think this is what I was attempting to convey but did a horrible job.

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I keep on referring to Dad as Geoni.

 

[Ace Marvel]

Fair enough Teddy
wym by this?

At the moment the only thing everyone knows is their own roll, so just like CLUE, this is the first turn, so WHO (sorry about that I always mix those word while writing, idk why, but since I was a kid, and didn't proof read that last part) do you think has an ace up their sleeve, that could change the game in the future?

And again I don't know why I always mix those two words, happens all the time.

 

[voltairenism]

what

1) what are your current impressions on dinotown? from this post i get the impression you're still feeling iffy about her but now feel you have to backtrack because antonio pointed out it could be a scum push on dinotown?

2) antonio never said outright that it was a mafia bandwagon on dinotown, just that it could be a potentially advantageous opportunity for mafia to jump on a dinotown lynch wagon, and that it was a big possibility (which is true if she's town)

3) antonio never mentioned you by name at all? what do you mean 'seemingly i was one of them'? nobody was singled out it was just an observation

I still have some suspections. What I mean is that the point I was making was that "Arent you talking too much for someone innocent?", but after reading her messages, she just talks too much normally lol
For me, it seemed that he was telling that the mafia went on a bandwagon rather than just generally getting advantage from the attack on dinotown, and I went on discussion last night with her, making me suspecious. I know he didn't mentioned me, and as he said he was just jokingly, this isn't a 'me' thing, it was an example.

 

[epona]

I'm taking this approach, because everyone else is allowing me to at the moment, but you are right, nothing would get done, and this is the same reason, playing this way of I don't have an argument in case people turn on me, I'm gone, so might not see it, but it's a little high risk, high rewards, being able to be on the second row once you decide to stand out. Until I have built enough data and character on myself, I would rather be in the middle ground and not frontstagen, that's what I meant by not being able to sustain a spotlight.
Be sure that I'm still here the next cycle, I will be saying a lot more.
Now I ask you, how do you think is most likely hiding something?

i don't think this is a very pro-town way of playing and is too individualistic for my liking. if you're town you shouldn't really be that concerned about taking frontstage if it's going to help us find a good lynch candidate

gut feeling says you're townie, but i'd encourage you to actually participate in the discussion and be helpful to town rather than skirting around questions with cryptic strategy outlines

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I still have some suspections. What I mean is that the point I was making was that "Arent you talking too much for someone innocent?", but after reading her messages, she just talks too much normally lol
For me, it seemed that he was telling that the mafia went on a bandwagon rather than just generally getting advantage from the attack on dinotown, and I went on discussion last night with her, making me suspecious. I know he didn't mentioned me, and as he said he was just jokingly, this isn't a 'me' thing, it was an example.

what are the suspicions you still have?

 

[Antonio]

You're also not factoring that you could die tonight. What if mafia votes you off?

@Teddy345

 

[Arstotzkan]

At the moment the only thing everyone knows is their own roll, so just like CLUE, this is the first turn, so WHO (sorry about that I always mix those word while writing, idk why, but since I was a kid, and didn't proof read that last part) do you think has an ace up their sleeve, that could change the game in the future?

And again I don't know why I always mix those two words, happens all the time.

Are you asking me to tell you who I think the town power roles are

 

[voltairenism]

I know he didn't mentioned me, and as he said he was just jokingly, this isn't a 'me' thing, it was an example.

I mean, the example would be just a microcosmo of his condraction.

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i don't think this is a very pro-town way of playing and is too individualistic for my liking. if you're town you shouldn't really be that concerned about taking frontstage if it's going to help us find a good lynch candidate

gut feeling says you're townie, but i'd encourage you to actually participate in the discussion and be helpful to town rather than skirting around questions with cryptic strategy outlines

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what are the suspicions you still have?

I still think the initial reasoning from trundle's scumread are kinda ridiculous, so I don't see a point for her reaction.

 

[epona]

@Seroja where are you

 

[Ace Marvel]

i don't think this is a very pro-town way of playing and is too individualistic for my liking. if you're town you shouldn't really be that concerned about taking frontstage if it's going to help us find a good lynch candidate

gut feeling says you're townie, but i'd encourage you to actually participate in the discussion and be helpful to town rather than skirting around questions with cryptic strategy outlines

You are right I might be taking a solo player approach at the moment, but believe that I'm here to be a team player and once I can share something with facts I will put everything out in the open.

my gut is telling me to wait a little bit longer, before I accuse someone of anything.

@Teddy345

Yes! I might be killed off tonight, but in my mind I'm playing the game to win and have the best outcome for the town. that's why even though I'm not saying much, I believe my game is high stakes, high rewards, because by doing these I have the most to lose, since I might be an easy target for the mafia or untrusty to some during the voting phase. My game style is for the long run, so hopefully I can stay all the way.

Are you asking me to tell you who I think the town power roles are

Not necessarily, but everything said must be taken into account, I don't know the power roles or if there are any, but out of the 171 post maybe someone already spill something we haven't seen yet.

 

[bell account]

Trundle- town lean
epona- town lean
dinotown- town lean
bell accont- town
mayor leaf- null
seroja- null
biancasbotique- null
voltairenism- town lean
geoni-null
Antonio- scum lean
Teddy345- town lean
Arstotzkhan- scum lean

eponas town lean is the weakest, voltaire and teddy are the strongest and my read of those slots are unlikely to change

 

[epona]

Trundle- town lean
epona- town lean
dinotown- town lean
bell accont- town
mayor leaf- null
seroja- null
biancasbotique- null
voltairenism- town lean
geoni-null
Antonio- scum lean
Teddy345- town lean
Arstotzkhan- scum lean

eponas town lean is the weakest, voltaire and teddy are the strongest and my read of those slots are unlikely to change

can you elaborate on your arstotzkhan scum lean

You are right I might be taking a solo player approach at the moment, but believe that I'm here to be a team player and once I can share something with facts I will put everything out in the open.

my gut is telling me to wait a little bit longer, before I accuse someone of anything.


Yes! I might be killed off tonight, but in my mind I'm playing the game to win and have the best outcome for the town. that's why even though I'm not saying much, I believe my game is high stakes, high rewards, because by doing these I have the most to lose, since I might be an easy target for the mafia or untrusty to some during the voting phase. My game style is for the long run, so hopefully I can stay all the way.



Not necessarily, but everything said must be taken into account, I don't know the power roles or if there are any, but out of the 171 post maybe someone already spill something we haven't seen yet.

this is literally so unhelpful? you don't have to outright make accusations but it would be beneficial if you could actually comment on pretty much anything that has been discussed in the past 171 pages instead of just talking in riddles about how you're gonna pull something out of the bag and prove yourself to be town hero late in the game

 

[DinoTown]

Trundle- town lean
epona- town lean
dinotown- town lean
bell accont- town
mayor leaf- null
seroja- null
biancasbotique- null
voltairenism- town lean
geoni-null
Antonio- scum lean
Teddy345- town lean
Arstotzkhan- scum lean

eponas town lean is the weakest, voltaire and teddy are the strongest and my read of those slots are unlikely to change

Oooh our first full reads list.
Can you please explain (or point me to a post that explains) why you scumread Arstotska?

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And Epona beat me to asking that whoops

 

[Antonio]

Yes! I might be killed off tonight, but in my mind I'm playing the game to win and have the best outcome for the town. that's why even though I'm not saying much, I believe my game is high stakes, high rewards, because by doing these I have the most to lose, since I might be an easy target for the mafia or untrusty to some during the voting phase. My game style is for the long run, so hopefully I can stay all the way.

I understand but by pointing out your gameplan is for the long run, you are risking mafia to vote you off during night and putting a target on your back when you can be contributing at the moment.

 

[g u a v a]

I understand but by pointing out your gameplan is for the long run, you are risking mafia to vote you off during night and putting a target on your back when you can be contributing at the moment.

he could also be mafia and just be throwing off the scent. reads that way to me.

 

[Antonio]

he could also be mafia and just be throwing off the scent. reads that way to me.

That's what I am thinking as well. Why state your gameplan publicly and risk mafia voting you off?

 

[Ace Marvel]

I understand but by pointing out your gameplan is for the long run, you are risking mafia to vote you off during night and putting a target on your back when you can be contributing at the moment.

can you elaborate on your arstotzkhan scum lean

this is literally so unhelpful? you don't have to outright make accusations but it would be beneficial if you could actually comment on pretty much anything that has been discussed in the past 171 pages instead of just talking in riddles about how you're gonna pull something out of the bag and prove yourself to be town hero late in the game

I will give my full list analysis really soon on each one. hopefully that helps, and I don't mean in a suspenseful way, I'm leaving work soon, and I can sit down to write everything.