Mafia Squeaky Clean Mafia - Day 3 - Ends Monday May 25 at 7pm EST

[epona]

There's no back tracking in my statement, I just feel there's too many people on DinoTown and we should be putting pressure on everyone during day 1. I just find it weird that all the discussion is about Dinotown.

Scum benefit from the lack of pressure and the lack of discussion of other people. There hasn't been much discussion on other people. Everyone is a suspect and based on last game behavior, I believe no one should be universally town read and everyone should be a suspect no matter what. Shawo went under the radar because everyone there townread him and I don't think that should happen again.

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DinoTown also did really well last game. I feel like mafia may see them as a threat.

i agree that everyone is, and should be, up for discussion, but your train of commentary so far is bothering me. apart from an early FoS on geoni, that you now seem to have sort of abandoned (could just be because geoni hasn't been active since then though which is fair enough) based on trundle's comments about dino, everything else you've said has sort of just been an echo of general sentiment around you which is being passed off as contribution.

Ok, I'm not sure why DinoTown would even mention that they saved town unless they were aiming for brownie points from town

this, like i said before, is basically just a more concise paraphrasing of what i had said directly above about dinotown's over-reliance on mentioning how she's now a legend for 'saving the town' in the last game

Why type alot when you can type a sentence and conveying your point

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just as easily

this was just a re-iteration of voltairenism saying that dinotown's response was 'too much of an essay'

Yeah, it's extremely bizarre everyobe is having solid reads this early in the game.

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I think Dad would have be on Trundle for scum reading someone this early in the game.

I understand having suspicions but having a read on someone that early is just bizarre.

this was just acquiescing with kat that early townreads on trundle were concerning

To be honest, it makes sense that mafia would go after DinoTown. They did amazingly well last game.

and then idk what this is but it on first reafing felt like a weird distancing attempt from the observations you had literally just made about dinotown

and now the self-obsessed thing seems to be a direct follow-up from what bell account had to say about dinotown. i appreciate you said that you didn't know how to phrase it properly before, but i'm wary of conflating active participation with just repeating what other people have said without really offering much new material.

not saying that this is AI at this point but would really like to hear more about what you actually think and what early impressions you're actually getting instead of just commentary on thoughts that other people have voiced.


also feel like @voltairenism is coasting a bit but it's hard to tell with timezones/this early on

 

[Ace Marvel]

you good lul. That said, still disagree. It feels more enthusiastic and verbose to me than self obsessed. If I just did something new and ended up being really good at it (or even just being told I did really well), I would definitely feel a lot stronger and confident going into the next time following. I think they were trying to explain their enthusiasm rather than simply laying it out on their table, and they definitely seem to tend to like to be verbose.
What if everyone adopted this mindset of 'waiting to give input until there is a clearer picture'? Nothing would get done.

Also re: 'I will create a spotlight on me that I won't be able to sustain': Can you elaborate on this?

I'm taking this approach, because everyone else is allowing me to at the moment, but you are right, nothing would get done, and this is the same reason, playing this way of I don't have an argument in case people turn on me, I'm gone, so might not see it, but it's a little high risk, high rewards, being able to be on the second row once you decide to stand out. Until I have built enough data and character on myself, I would rather be in the middle ground and not frontstagen, that's what I meant by not being able to sustain a spotlight.
Be sure that I'm still here the next cycle, I will be saying a lot more.
Now I ask you, how do you think is most likely hiding something?

 

[Antonio]

I get that, but are you not factoring in that my mindset between this game and last is VERY different considering what went down last game?

That's understandable. Can you state what your mindset is this game so I can possibly understand?

 

[Arstotzkan]

Fair enough Teddy

Now I ask you, how do you think is most likely hiding something?

wym by this?

 

[Antonio]

and now the self-obsessed thing seems to be a direct follow-up from what bell account had to say about dinotown. i appreciate you said that you didn't know how to phrase it properly before, but i'm wary of conflating active participation with just repeating what other people have said without really offering much new material.

Sorry, I agree with the self-obsessed thing but my earlier suspicisions were based on DinoTown being on the defensive rather then the offense and I couldn't phrase that properly then, not the self-obsessed thing.

 

[DinoTown]

That's understandable. Can you state what your mindset is this game so I can possibly understand?

At the start of this game, I definitely felt confident (I'm not going to get into the differences between confidence and self-obsession because they are very different terms) and very enthusiastic for the game. My first post was made in a very tired state, pushing myself to stay up until 12 was a bad idea (but now I know).
I currently feel a little annoyed by everything that's going on around me because being the center of attention is bad enough when it's not to point fingers at you for being mafia, but I still want to play the game and want to go back to my state of enthusiasm for playing.
I'm not sure I can get back my confidence after this, though.

 

[Antonio]

i agree that everyone is, and should be, up for discussion, but your train of commentary so far is bothering me. apart from an early FoS on geoni, that you now seem to have sort of abandoned (could just be because geoni hasn't been active since then though which is fair enough) based on trundle's comments about dino, everything else you've said has sort of just been an echo of general sentiment around you which is being passed off as contribution.

I still think Dad is suspicious, I just not 100% sure about it anymore based on his after behavior so it left my mind. He is usually on these things regarding suspicious behavior, I thought he would've called out Trundle for it.

 

[epona]

also i don't necessarily think we should stop talking about dinotown, but i do think we should stop focussing so much on the most recent game. one game isn't really enough to develop a solid enough meta to go off, especially if it was her first forum game, so i don't really know how much gravity the 'different behaviour' argument has.

also conversation about the last game is boring (no offence but who cares what specchat had to say) and it's not getting us anywhere lol

 

[Antonio]

this was just a re-iteration of voltairenism saying that dinotown's response was 'too much of an essay'

That was supposed to be a meme but I did it wrong. I think it was the kevin from the office meme where it's like "Why say so little when few words do".

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It wasn't a repeation of what someone said, it was supposed to be a joke. Sometimes my delivery is terrible.

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Also, who is kat?

 

[Arstotzkan]

Also, who is kat?

ello tis I the frenchiest fry

 

[Antonio]

ello tis I the frenchiest fry

AH OK

Can we please refer to people by username as I get extremely confused.

 

[DinoTown]

AH OK

Can we please refer to people by username as I get extremely confused.

Only if you stop calling Geoni dad for the exact same reason lol

 

[Antonio]

Only if you stop calling Geoni dad for the exact same reason lol

WAIT, HE ISN'T DAD?

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I keep on looking at his avatar and thinking his name is Dad.

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this was just acquiescing with kat that early townreads on trundle were concerning

Yeah, I agreed with kat that everyone read on trundle was suspicious. However, I also stated that Trundle having a solid read that earlier was suspicious aswell so of course I would've agreed with Kat.

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ello tis I the frenchiest fry

Are you duck loving kat or am i thinking of someone else?

 

[epona]

sorry, i'm just going off what other people referred to each other as earlier on in the thread because i'm sure you're all more familiar with each other from previous mafia games but i agree usernames is best practice

@Mayor Leaf can i ask why the vote on trundle so soon?

i'm not leaning town on trundle at all, while i get that it'd be risky for mafia to do that right off the bat, it makes perfect sense. stir up some suspicions, don't really back them up too much and then fade into the background and leave everyone to lynch the wrong person.

i understand this, and while i'm still personally townleaning trundle, i think it's definitely worth fleshing this out more

just seems a bit premature to place a vote for him when we haven't discussed it too much yet. do you want to elaborate on it a bit more?

 

[Arstotzkan]

Are you duck loving kat or am i thinking of someone else?

You're probably thinking someone else. I've mainly only been around in the Cellar. If you're in the TBT Mafia Discord, I'm KatKid in there That said I could have sworn we'd talked before and such, huh.

 

[Antonio]

I'm taking this approach, because everyone else is allowing me to at the moment, but you are right, nothing would get done, and this is the same reason, playing this way of I don't have an argument in case people turn on me, I'm gone, so might not see it, but it's a little high risk, high rewards, being able to be on the second row once you decide to stand out. Until I have built enough data and character on myself, I would rather be in the middle ground and not frontstagen, that's what I meant by not being able to sustain a spotlight.
Be sure that I'm still here the next cycle, I will be saying a lot more.
Now I ask you, how do you think is most likely hiding something?

You're also not factoring that you could die tonight. What if mafia votes you off?

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You're probably thinking someone else. I've mainly only been around in the Cellar. If you're in the TBT Mafia Discord, I'm KatKid in there That said I could have sworn we'd talked before and such, huh.

Did i tag you on twitter for multiple giveaways? If not, it's not you.

 

[voltairenism]

@voltairenism is coasting a bit but it's hard to tell with timezones/this early on

Honestly, you said that I wasn't giving too much of original input and I agree with you. I am just collecting my thoughts and waiting for geonio and trundle input, since they seem to be hot topics right now.
But I was going to comment on Antonio saying about the dinotown bandwagon, since I was one of them, and it's kind of confusing to know they low-key support me on dinotown when I said it was unnecessary rant, but then telling that mafia jumped on the bandwagon of pushing her, and I seemly was one of them. I mean, the original post seems at little more accusatory, then it turned to "hey, shouldnt we talk about more people?" (I am reading the thread pretty closely so I am keep my impressions of the messages as soon as I read them) but I don't want to be guessing tones again since I feel like I was in the wrong track with dinotown.

 

[DinoTown]

I personally think it's a little weird to place a vote on someone in a quiet period without saying at least something in the main thread just before. Is that commonplace and it's just me thinking it's odd to do? Or am I right to think that's a little odd?

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In reference to Mayor Leaf's vote on Trundle-

 

[Arstotzkan]

Did i tag you on twitter for multiple giveaways? If not, it's not you.

lul not me then. Twitter is a lie B)

 

[g u a v a]

@Mayor Leaf can i ask why the vote on trundle so soon?

sure, i voted trundle because votes can be unvoted. to have a single post to go off of and immediately say “that’s maf” doesn’t sit right with me. i’m going with gut.

i understand the “get the ball rolling” aspect of the comment but at this moment i’m just not ~that~ suspicious of dino and way more suspicious of trundle and those who followed suit with no question.

though as i’m writing this dino did throw some suspicion on me so who knows maybe i should be more wary of her.

I personally think it's a little weird to place a vote on someone in a quiet period without saying at least something in the main thread just before. Is that commonplace and it's just me thinking it's odd to do? Or am I right to think that's a little odd?

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In reference to Mayor Leaf's vote on Trundle-

to answer you directly, i’m not big on asking permission. the votes changeable so i figured it’s not as severe. i stated my suspicions in my previous post. there’s not much else beyond that, i’m really going on gut at the moment.