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Mafia Squeaky Clean Mafia - Day 3 - Ends Monday May 25 at 7pm EST

You said "trinity" with such confidence though.
That's because I love glee and there were a group of characters nicknamed the unholy trinity, and I felt it was fitting, sorry if I made it look like I knew that.
 
i'm pushing you to help because i don't think, on d1, that any one player's insights are more valuable than anybody else's. we've all been given the exact same amount of information and all any of us has to work with is what's in the thread so far. 'reserving' your opinions for the next cycle doesn't help us now when we're all trying to form opinions and reads

thanks for actually posting your reads though
 
i'm pushing you to help because i don't think, on d1, that any one player's insights are more valuable than anybody else's. we've all been given the exact same amount of information and all any of us has to work with is what's in the thread so far. 'reserving' your opinions for the next cycle doesn't help us now when we're all trying to form opinions and reads

thanks for actually posting your reads though
And I'm thankful for the push, sorry if I'm misreading you, but those are the vibes I'm getting.
 
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Trundle - slight mafia lean, see post. (yes, i voted on a slight lean)

epona - mafia lean, mostly because of this post and how quickly she wrote off trundle and antonio, both people who i think are mafia as of this moment. hard to know for sure because she continually gives me town mentality but wolf in sheeps clothing and all that, right?

dinotown - 50/50, enough has been said about her and nothing thus far has proven to me that she's town or mafia, but suspicions remain.

bell accont - no comment

seroja - no comment

biancasbotique - i love a messy queen who jumps right in to the lynch dino mob, probably a townie.

voltairenism - townie? maybe??? hard to tell.

geoni - maf lean, but nothing concrete. mostly just curious about his response to trundle scum reading.

Antonio - maf. too much stirring not enough analysis from where i'm sitting.

Teddy345 - mafia lean, too riddler-esque style of gameplay for my liking. the trinity comment helped my suspicious, freudian slip perhaps?

Arstotzkhan - no comment
 
interesting reads mayor leaf but like... is everyone mafia

interesting how you have a townie lean on bianca when she's made like 2 posts, but everyone else (bar volt) is no comment

also, as an aside, those were my inital thoughts when i woke up and read through the thread this morning. my reads are mostly unchanged except for antonio who i'm now null on but slightly sus for the reasons i gave earlier (acquiescing with everybody and echoing opinions around him while not actually giving anything very useful)
 
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Wow! Of all I said the unholy trinity part stood out the most, this is the trinity I was referring to.
 
interesting reads mayor leaf but like... is everyone mafia

nope, definitely don't think everyone is mafia but i guess that's how i'm playing it this game. it's easier for me to start teasing out mafia behavior in folks and then see who leans harder. take my reads as conversation starters where i hope others will dispute or give insights as to why i might be off.

no comments may be interpreted as "i don't know what to say about them at this time"

i fully agree with your suspicions on antonio.
 
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Trundle - slight mafia lean, see post. (yes, i voted on a slight lean)

epona - mafia lean, mostly because of this post and how quickly she wrote off trundle and antonio, both people who i think are mafia as of this moment. hard to know for sure because she continually gives me town mentality but wolf in sheeps clothing and all that, right?

dinotown - 50/50, enough has been said about her and nothing thus far has proven to me that she's town or mafia, but suspicions remain.

bell accont - no comment

seroja - no comment

biancasbotique - i love a messy queen who jumps right in to the lynch dino mob, probably a townie.

voltairenism - townie? maybe??? hard to tell.

geoni - maf lean, but nothing concrete. mostly just curious about his response to trundle scum reading.

Antonio - maf. too much stirring not enough analysis from where i'm sitting.

Teddy345 - mafia lean, too riddler-esque style of gameplay for my liking. the trinity comment helped my suspicious, freudian slip perhaps?

Arstotzkhan - no comment

This doesn't help my case at all, but is the perfect opportunity to use this:
According to you I'm the bad guy.
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nope, definitely don't think everyone is mafia but i guess that's how i'm playing it this game. it's easier for me to start teasing out mafia behavior in folks and then see who leans harder. take my reads as conversation starters where i hope others will dispute or give insights as to why i might be off.

no comments may be interpreted as "i don't know what to say about them at this time"

i fully agree with your suspicions on antonio.

fair enough, i usually adopt an identify fellow townies and then PoE from there so it's just different

i'm not seeing the teddy scumlean because it just seems to be entirely lacking in any strategy whatsoever if he's mafia
 
fair enough, i usually adopt an identify fellow townies and then PoE from there so it's just different

i'm not seeing the teddy scumlean because it just seems to be entirely lacking in any strategy whatsoever if he's mafia
isn't that the best strategy? i don't want to go down the "if i were mafia i would..." road because that's a steep ass slope covered in ice but.... i could see how that's a way to play it. i will say that i'm extremely wary of anyone who isnt being all that straightforward.

~*~*mind games*~*~
 
isn't that the best strategy? i don't want to go down the "if i were mafia i would..." road because that's a steep ass slope covered in ice but.... i could see how that's a way to play it. i will say that i'm extremely wary of anyone who isnt being all that straightforward.

~*~*mind games*~*~
And I will answer that, being straightforward can change the perception all the player have of you, my unholy trinity comment was meant to be a pop culture reference, and now I'm being suspected of being scum. So I'm being calculated, but every time I try to explain myself, I'm being more suspected of being Mafia. So now I have to prove harder , that my goal is saving the town.
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But I will keep fighting to make the town win.
 
My Reads
I am terrible at coming to conclusions so bare with me until day 2/3. Please note that everyone is stll a suspect. However, I have certain leans that I wish to convey. There is no particular order.

Town-Lean
DinoTown - I have had a few suspicious about her but I have stated all my concerns about them and they happily addressed all of them to were my concerns are no longer concerns compared to others. I do wish to see them be more on the offense.
Arstotzkhan - I liked how they questioned Teddy when everyone was focused on DinoTown. Of course that don't mean much but their questioning did eventually lead to teddy posting their opinion.
Epona - I agree with them on a lot of things regarding Teddy and they always stated their mind.
Mayor Leaf - They feel town motivated from my perspective and states her thoughts like Epona. We also share similar thoughts.

Nulls
Bianca - You have barely posted so i can't form an opinion on you.
Seroja - You have barely posted so i can't form an opinion on you.
Bell Account - I like what you have posted but I can't understand your motivation. What was that "lol" regarding?
Voltairenism - I like what you have posted but I'm not 100% sure where you lie so I am leaving you on Null.
Geoni - I wish to see more from you as you do post a lot when you are Town. I felt like you would've been suspicious regarding Trundle's scum reading however your post after that felt townie? You're close to being scum but I am not 100% sure about you. Please do more, we need you if you're town aligned.

Scum-Leans
Trundle - I don't like how you had a scum read as early as you did. You barely had posted which is also suspicious. I have stated my opinions regarding you.
Teddy - You have clarified your trinity case but I still find the hesitant behavior early in the game extremely suspicious. Maybe you were waiting for others to form an opinion so that's why you were so hesitant before? I just don't see why a townie member would even choose to play the long game like you specified.

These are my current thoughts. I'm sorry if i can't post more but I hope this helps. These opinions would mostly changed based on suspicious behavior that happen after this post, so don't call me a hypocrite if someone goes from town to scum.
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But I will keep fighting to make the town win.
the town? Why does this statement feel so distant...
 
reads,,, bear with me

teddy - pretty weird, but town leanie. i think he fumbled on his words and it got out very weird, but I understood the thought behind, even though I dont agree with his strategy. also I believe his reasoning for the unholy trinity, and he immediatly said "(maybe 4)" on his post so I don't think it's a slip.
mayorleaf - seems very opportunistic to call teddy a scum and that worked out for them, so they keep pushing it. maf
antonio - maf. everyone said why, and I don't have nothing new to add.
dinotown - null. she's still fishy to me, but she was very actively talking about her side, and that made me realize her response to acusations was just her usual self instead of the super-defensive mode I thought she was. null
epona - town. she is questioning everything, like she doesn't trust anyone, so town mindset.
trunddle - i don't know what he would gain as a maf by scumreading so early except just pushing the game forward, but not enough insight on his part. null
bell - town. I think he is giving solid insights that don't try to mislead. options are straight to the point and they add instead of messing the discussion.

no comment about geoni, bianca, Arstotzkhan or seroja.
 
My Reads
I am terrible at coming to conclusions so bare with me until day 2/3. Please note that everyone is stll a suspect. However, I have certain leans that I wish to convey. There is no particular order.

Town-Lean
DinoTown - I have had a few suspicious about her but I have stated all my concerns about them and they happily addressed all of them to were my concerns are no longer concerns compared to others. I do wish to see them be more on the offense.
Arstotzkhan - I liked how they questioned Teddy when everyone was focused on DinoTown. Of course that don't mean much but their questioning did eventually lead to teddy posting their opinion.
Epona - I agree with them on a lot of things regarding Teddy and they always stated their mind.
Mayor Leaf - They feel town motivated from my perspective and states her thoughts like Epona. We also share similar thoughts.

Nulls
Bianca - You have barely posted so i can't form an opinion on you.
Seroja - You have barely posted so i can't form an opinion on you.
Bell Account - I like what you have posted but I can't understand your motivation. What was that "lol" regarding?
Voltairenism - I like what you have posted but I'm not 100% sure where you lie so I am leaving you on Null.
Geoni - I wish to see more from you as you do post a lot when you are Town. I felt like you would've been suspicious regarding Trundle's scum reading however your post after that felt townie? You're close to being scum but I am not 100% sure about you. Please do more, we need you if you're town aligned.

Scum-Leans
Trundle - I don't like how you had a scum read as early as you did. You barely had posted which is also suspicious. I have stated my opinions regarding you.
Teddy - You have clarified your trinity case but I still find the hesitant behavior early in the game extremely suspicious. Maybe you were waiting for others to form an opinion so that's why you were so hesitant before? I just don't see why a townie member would even choose to play the long game like you specified.

These are my current thoughts. I'm sorry if i can't post more but I hope this helps. These opinions would mostly changed based on suspicious behavior that happen after this post, so don't call me a hypocrite if someone goes from town to scum.
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the town? Why does this statement feel so distant...
Like I said, the town has to win and if that means being killed, I will do it. It's not distant is honestly want I feel needs to happen. The truth is that some of us will die, no matter who wins.
Guess you'll discover during the night cycle if I'm also awake. :)
 
revising my previous reads:

voltairenism - maf lean. looking back at earlier posts their strategy appears to be picking apart details not to really gleam anything but just to try and catch people in a lie/precarious situation.

epona - most likely town, just seems extremely aware of intentions and strategy so unsure if it's being used to enlighten or manipulate, tho so far seems harmless.

bell account - town lean. went back and reviewed and they're not really attempting to force the accusations at any one player.

Arstotzkhan - slight town lean, reading other's reads and looking back has helped me understand her posts better.

re: teddy, it just feels a little ultimatum-y to say "yea i could get killed but if i do, then you'll miss out on all this intel" hence, mafia lean.
 
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